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    riddle me this?

    okay, im either an idiot or this is a legit questioin. i was recently at a car show and i messed around and got my car dyno'd. the car has a little bit in the engine, you know the normal stuff. cai, headers and out the ass end an after market exaust. engine components that are said to give you hp, well after the guy tested the car he printed out the dyno sheet and it read 101.2hp and 107.7 tourque. i could have sworn that when i read the specs on the car at the dealer, it said 135hp and 140 or so tourque. why then did the car only read the 101.2? is that right? if so why? please school me on this!!!!
    2003 protege dx; black mica
    titanium tip thermal exhaust
    k&n typhoon complete CAI
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    Racers Design shift knob w/custom short shifter
    17" MSR-105 gunmetal wheels, nitto neo-gen tires205/40zr17

    #2
    that 135 hp was flywheel hp, that 101.2 is wheel hp, so with drivetrainloss, and depending if any of the mods you have actually gave you hp, (you could have lost hp with them) thats what you get, do you drive a stick or an auto??
    .....HELLO MY NAME IS BEN...



    186.08whp
    225.94wtq
    torque monster!!!!
    dyno graph 8-10-and 12psi
    http://www.msprotege.com/members/THE...no%20graph.jpg
    http://videos.streetfire.net/player....0-C19CA06AF01E dyno vid

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      #3
      The 2.0L Protege is rated at 130 HP (brake or crank) at 6000 RPM and 135 lbs/ft of torque. The figures you obtained on the dyno are wheel HP ratings and they are always considerably less due to drivetrain losses. That's the reason for the discrepancy. The figures for the 1.6L will be proportionately less.
      02 DX Millenium Red - The Penultimate Driving Machine
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        #4
        Car dealerships advertise power as crank hp, it makes the car look more appealing this way. The dyno you did gave you horsepower to the wheels which is around 20% less than crank.

        EDIT: Damn I was having a conversation with somebody after I started to post. You fockers are too quick for me.

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          #5
          Hey, GOLDPRO you beat me by one minute.

          02 DX Millenium Red
          02 DX Millenium Red - The Penultimate Driving Machine
          MP3 Strut Tower Bar kit; Cusco Front Lower Arm Tie Bar
          MSP Springs, Struts, Stabilizer Bars, Trailing Links, #3 Engine Mount
          Kartboy Stabilizer Bar Bushings; Nyloil Shifter Bushings; Red Line MT-90 Gear Oil
          MP3 Shifter, Knob and Aluminum Pedal Set
          Suvlights HD Wiring Harness; Osram Night Breaker H4 Bulbs; Exide Edge AGM Battery
          Summer: 5Zigen FN01R-C 16 x 7" Wheels; Yoko S.drive 205/45-16s
          Winter: Enkei OR52 16 x 7" Wheels; Falken Ziex ZE-912 205/45-16s
          Modified OEM Air Intake; Racing Beat Exhaust System; Techna-Fit SS Clutch Line
          Denso SKJ16CR-L11 Extended Tip Spark Plugs; Magnecor Wires
          Power Slot Front Brake Rotors; Techna-Fit SS Brake Lines; Hawk HPS Pads
          Red Line Synthetic Engine Oil; C/S Aluminum Oil Cap
          Cyberdyne Digital Gauges: Tach; Ambient Air Temp; Voltmeter

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            #6
            Not to mention differences in how the "dyno" measures hp...they all have advantages/disadvantages but some are more accurate then others.

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              #7
              not to mention he has a 1.6L Dx which we all know starts off at about 88-92 hp.
              Visit My Garage

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                #8
                2002+ all had the 2.0L in the U.S.
                2006 Mazda 3 hatchback manual

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                  #9
                  I stand corrected. Learn something new everyday.
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                    #10
                    An n/a protege has no business on the dyno...lol I could never put the prote on the machine after watching supercharged vettes on it at the shop in my town. Id feel silly.
                    According to my Anger Management Counselor, after 26 weeks of anger management class, I should be an expert when it comes to Anger Management...tell that to the guy who threw a starburst at my car in rush hour traffic...haha


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                      #11
                      i drive a stick, and trust me i felt silly!!! but what the hell it was free and i learned something new. so frickin sue me for trying=) it did look kinda cool sittin there on the dyno though! thanx for the replies
                      2003 protege dx; black mica
                      titanium tip thermal exhaust
                      k&n typhoon complete CAI
                      custom engine dress up
                      custom interior dress up
                      5" autometer tach-silver face
                      20% solar tint all around
                      obx stainless steel headers
                      stainless steel strut bar
                      Racers Design shift knob w/custom short shifter
                      17" MSR-105 gunmetal wheels, nitto neo-gen tires205/40zr17

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                        #12
                        hahaha, he did feel silly..
                        According to my Anger Management Counselor, after 26 weeks of anger management class, I should be an expert when it comes to Anger Management...tell that to the guy who threw a starburst at my car in rush hour traffic...haha


                        Todays thought of the day:

                        Rice is great if your really hungry and want to eat 2000 of something.

                        Mitch Hedberg

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by goldstar
                          Hey, GOLDPRO you beat me by one minute.

                          02 DX Millenium Red
                          well im quick like that, lol
                          .....HELLO MY NAME IS BEN...



                          186.08whp
                          225.94wtq
                          torque monster!!!!
                          dyno graph 8-10-and 12psi
                          http://www.msprotege.com/members/THE...no%20graph.jpg
                          http://videos.streetfire.net/player....0-C19CA06AF01E dyno vid

                          blahblahblahblahblahblah

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                            #14
                            Another reason for HP loss is the difference in rims. 17 inch rims are going to cause some drop in HP due to the amount of inertia needed to get the bigger wheel moving. In essence, putting rims on your actually slows it down too.



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                              #15
                              ****, im gonna put some 13's on that bitch and let her run again!!
                              2003 protege dx; black mica
                              titanium tip thermal exhaust
                              k&n typhoon complete CAI
                              custom engine dress up
                              custom interior dress up
                              5" autometer tach-silver face
                              20% solar tint all around
                              obx stainless steel headers
                              stainless steel strut bar
                              Racers Design shift knob w/custom short shifter
                              17" MSR-105 gunmetal wheels, nitto neo-gen tires205/40zr17

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