Some of you may recall that last July I installed the MSP Lowered Spring (0000-8M-C13) and Retuned Struts (0000-8M-C14) kits. It appears that in october, I'll be able to afford the MSP Stabilizer Bar kit (0000-8M-C15) to complete my coversion to a full MSP suspension. The kit also includes a replacement rear subframe to allow mounting the new bar. The springs and struts provided a very noticeable improvement in handling. I'm expecting a further improvement from adding the bars since their larger than stock diameter (25mm front; 20mm rear), should reduce body lean and consequently the lifting of the inside wheels during cornering. This should enable a higher cornering force to be generated at any given road speed. At least I think that's how larger diameter bars work-correct me if I'm wrong.
I have a number of questions about the installation that I'm hoping some of you suspension experts can answer. Are new end links required because of the bars' larger diameters? I haven't been able to find any info about this.
If I switch to the MSP bar, will I get the dreaded rear suspension clunk that so many MSP and MP3 owners have complained about? Currently, my suspension is as quiet as the grave which is just the way I like it. Why would converting to a larger diameter bar and bushings by themselves cause any increase in noise? Checking TheMANS FAQ, I went to the TSB section on noisy rear suspension and noted that TheMAN has listed an improved bushing (BN7H-28-156E) that is supposed to correct this problem. He goes on to say that this "E" level bushing can be identified by a molded on Teflon sleeve and that it should be lubed with silicone paste to prevent premature wear and/or squeaks. Does anyone know if these "E" bushings are included with the MSP stabilizer bar kit? Finally, in checking around the Forums, it seems the "E" bushing has solved the noise problems of some users but other's report that the noise eventually comes back after a period of time. Is there any consensus on how long these bushings last or is it just a fact that, after sufficient wear, we have to resign ourselves to periodic replacement? Any information anyone has will be most appreciated.
Incidently, I want to stick with the MSP bars because I have an extended warranty and by using OEM performance accessories I won't put it in jeopardy.
I have a number of questions about the installation that I'm hoping some of you suspension experts can answer. Are new end links required because of the bars' larger diameters? I haven't been able to find any info about this.
If I switch to the MSP bar, will I get the dreaded rear suspension clunk that so many MSP and MP3 owners have complained about? Currently, my suspension is as quiet as the grave which is just the way I like it. Why would converting to a larger diameter bar and bushings by themselves cause any increase in noise? Checking TheMANS FAQ, I went to the TSB section on noisy rear suspension and noted that TheMAN has listed an improved bushing (BN7H-28-156E) that is supposed to correct this problem. He goes on to say that this "E" level bushing can be identified by a molded on Teflon sleeve and that it should be lubed with silicone paste to prevent premature wear and/or squeaks. Does anyone know if these "E" bushings are included with the MSP stabilizer bar kit? Finally, in checking around the Forums, it seems the "E" bushing has solved the noise problems of some users but other's report that the noise eventually comes back after a period of time. Is there any consensus on how long these bushings last or is it just a fact that, after sufficient wear, we have to resign ourselves to periodic replacement? Any information anyone has will be most appreciated.
Incidently, I want to stick with the MSP bars because I have an extended warranty and by using OEM performance accessories I won't put it in jeopardy.
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