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    stock 96 protege, want 200hp

    hello, i am a new member of the protege club. i have a 96 protege dx. i want more horse power in my car. i was wondering what things i need to do to get it there? i know i need an intake, new muffler, but what else? i have new bosch platinum +4 plugs and new wires, 28% smoke tint, and 13' alloy rims. i need help. thank you.

    #2
    There's nothing really else that you can buy for our 2gen.
    You'd have to get parts custom made which would more than likely cost out the ass and not give you that much gain.
    If u ask me, save up the money for a swap or
    go out and invest your money into a nos kit.

    my 2 cents
    Mike A.

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      #3
      OR, you could buy some light weight racing rims and
      tear your interior out for some reduction in weight.

      That might help. If you're looking for speed not hp.
      Mike A.

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        #4
        thank you for your advice. i guess i will have to work with what i have. you said something about taking out the interior. where would i go to get a new interior, b/c i desperately need a knew one

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          #5
          oh yeah and what do you mean by "swap", do you mean get a 1.8L engine.

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            #6
            Well if you have the 1.5 , you have 2 options.

            1. Motor swap to 1.8 then turbo .. (do a search on how)

            2. Fully rebuilt 1.5 with overboard pistonds, ported polished head and regrind cams, custom T25 ball bearing turbo or a T3. Stand alond engine management, ES protege brakes front and rear disks.

            200 can be reached, but money = power.
            Bruce
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              #7
              Originally posted by bruce95fmla
              Well if you have the 1.5 , you have 2 options.

              1. Motor swap to 1.8 then turbo .. (do a search on how)

              2. Fully rebuilt 1.5 with overboard pistonds, ported polished head and regrind cams, custom T25 ball bearing turbo or a T3. Stand alond engine management, ES protege brakes front and rear disks.

              200 can be reached, but money = power.
              Bruce
              I suggest the swap with turbo.
              Why waist the time or money on rebuilding a 1.5?
              There's no telling how much it would cost to do that.

              Also, What's wrong with your interior?
              Mike A.

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                #8
                Also when he said to rip out the interior... he didnt mean replace it with a different one... just rip it out to bare metal and get a lighter racing seat....say good bye to your ac and system if you have one...

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                  #9
                  Ripping out the interior is a waste of time to me, and also just not practical.

                  It's better to improve the power of the engine than to rip out the interior

                  bruce
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by bubbashane
                    I suggest the swap with turbo.
                    Why waist the time or money on rebuilding a 1.5?
                    There's no telling how much it would cost to do that.

                    Also, What's wrong with your interior?
                    Yeah the swap is good, but building a 1.5 is also different, It wouldn't take much, get some 1.6 miata pistons(pending they fit) and find some forged rods. Then take the block to a machinest and have him bore it out to fit the pistons. Then give the machinest the haed, have him port it and polish it.
                    Get a custom turbo manifold made.
                    Get a Stand alone , for optimal power.
                    Get bigger ES or 1st gen LX brakes (how to will be coming soon) so you can stop.. (rear discs also )

                    Fill all mounts with Polyurethane...
                    I would have done this, but money was my biggest issue.
                    Bruce
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                    dbest1a AT yahoo DOT com

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                      #11

                      Bruce, you have an answer for everything.
                      Thats good though.
                      If i werent worried about having a place for my passengers to
                      sit, i would tear my interior out. Im still in high school
                      though.
                      Mike A.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by bubbashane

                        Bruce, you have an answer for everything.
                        Thats good though.
                        If i werent worried about having a place for my passengers to
                        sit, i would tear my interior out. Im still in high school
                        though.
                        I refuse to gut my interior. I could understand the trunk yeah and crap not needed in the engine bay ok.. but the whole interior .. no
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                          #13
                          Bruce, which of the two options is cheaper though, as far as swapping to 1.8 or working on th 1.5? and which one would yield the most benefit economically.
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                            #14
                            not sure of the cost of doing the work to a 1.5 but the there is a place that will swap a 1.8 into your car for 2 grand or less including parts.. of course you could do it yourself for much cheaper.. just make sure you get an entire list from bruce on what you need.... when i do mine i'm taking it a little farther and replace all engine mounts with mazda speed ones and replacing my trans and a few other things i think bruce didn't do... but if you do it that way it will probably be about the same cost for a little less power but you can then build that engine much easier to a much higher standerd and possibly also have a younger engine
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                              #15
                              yeah , I changed the front engine mount, I filled the rear engine mount with polyurethane and filled the tranny drivers side mount with polyurethane. I need a passenger mount though. I think I iwll order the Mazda speed unit.
                              When you rev my motor it does not move at all.. I mean the motor in the cabin.. It does not rock back and forth.

                              After numerous conversations with people, I was assured that the BP internals are really strong. so I didn't mother to pull the motor apart or anything.

                              either some forged pistons or some miata 9.5:1 pistons will make there way in the car at a latter date, after turbo and so forth.

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                              uhhhh which is cheaper, 1.5 rebuild or 1.8 swap

                              Well I would have to say I don't know.
                              I know the 1.8 swap cost me approx. $1000 to $1500 dollars maybe less. I refused to keep track of the money to be honest so I wouldn't get upset. I could add it up but I don't really want to.

                              the 1.5 swap could run a bit more, if you are not doing the work yourself. (as far as pulling out the motor and taking it apart) If you are doing everything yourself and just takeing parts to the machine shop then it could run you about what I paid.

                              OK , I was just looking this up in the chilton.. so you can use these stock figures to figure what you would do with the 1.5L

                              compression ratio = 9.4:1
                              Bore X stroke =75.3 x 83.6mm
                              Bore X stroke (B6)= 78.0 x 83.6mm **

                              Bruce
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