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blue LEDz
08-29-2003, 11:41 AM
i'm the first one to post in the audio section, does that make me the king:D for any new memebers who find this forum, here are a few guidlines:

1) i can be a dick. don't take it personally.
2) i love to help when i comes to car audio. ask me whatever questions you have.
3) i'll be the first to admit i don't know too much about SQ competition systems, but if you want SQL/SPL, i know a substantial amount.
4) petty bull**** arguements where nothing productive comes out of it will not be tolerated. if you are going to argue/discuss audio, make sure legitimate information is presented, and don't make it an "i'm just right and you're wrong" arguement.

hopefully more of the members from the former protegeclub will find their way over here;)

pro00
08-29-2003, 05:03 PM
show them whose man!
:D

mixmaster_matt
08-29-2003, 09:52 PM
word Blue, start regulating this sh!t over here....how is the system going...you ever do that fiberglass rear deck you talked about a while ago..

blue LEDz
08-29-2003, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by mixmaster_matt
word Blue, start regulating this sh!t over here....how is the system going...you ever do that fiberglass rear deck you talked about a while ago..

for all those who have dealt with me for a while, please feel free to drop me a PM if you think i'm out of line on anything. but i would like to keep the BS to a minimum here:D i've got the startings for the rear deck, but didn't like how it was coming out, so i haven't bothered with it:rolleyes: i'm concentrating on the interior of my car now, mainly the dash and door panels. i'll also be building a new box or 2 for my brahma:D one is a better designed 6th order bandpass box, which i'll utilize port inserts for SPL comps. the other is a horn loaded box. it's been a pain designing the horn, but it's got a lot of potential;)

asylum24
08-30-2003, 02:40 AM
Hey blue, havent talked to ya for awhile over at pclub... anway glad to see that you are still around ;) even if we did have arguments over my type R 12" and your wahtever the hell it is:D

Kevin
08-30-2003, 02:49 AM
since when the hell have you been a dick??? ideally, you're our go to sound guy, but sometimes you've got this strong SPL/ported box bias...
peace

blue LEDz
08-30-2003, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by demoninvictus
since when the hell have you been a dick??? ideally, you're our go to sound guy, but sometimes you've got this strong SPL/ported box bias...
peace

i can be a dick when someone questions what i know for a fact is right;) i do have a tendancy to be rather sarcastic, though:D yeah, i've very biased towards SPL, it's just my thing:p

asylum24, how the type R sounding? i've got a few box designs in the works for my brahma 10. i'm hoping to break the 150 dB barrier with a single 10 in stock 1 class for spring break nationals next year:cool: and in a few months i'll have my own SPL meter for testing, so it'll be easier to tune at home. and that means that anyone in the FL and SC areas can get their system metered for free:D

asylum24
08-30-2003, 02:09 PM
sounds really good...sounds aa lot better now with tthe new amp.... that 600 watt clarious Profile was horrible... not clean at all.. the abss was a lil too sloppy for me so i went by the store and just bought my alpine MRD M500 its soooo much cleaner... if you could break the 150 mark with 1 10... that has to be some sort of record within itself!

blue LEDz
08-30-2003, 02:50 PM
i know 150 dB has been broken with a single 10, just not in the stock class;) hell, if four 8's or a single 15 can break the 170 dB mark in extreme vehicles, i'm sure 150 is attainable in my car:p good choice with the amp. i'm sure it sounds noticably better;) i'm looking into the MA audio 4,400 watt amp:eek: it'll give me 1600 watts rms at 4 ohm for daily driving, but 4400 when i drop the load to 1 ohm for comps:p

asylum24
08-30-2003, 03:01 PM
DEAR LORD!!! 4400!?! got a link to this thing? BTW what makes up the classes like why are considered stock?

McCorkle
08-30-2003, 03:06 PM
Wow 4400 watt. That is insane. I can't even begin to imagine how loud that could be.

blue LEDz
08-30-2003, 03:28 PM
here's the link:
http://www.maaudio.com/productcatalog.cfm?class=621
it's the HK-802SX

each organization has slightly different rules for the classes. i compete in iasca's idbl comps. here's a basic run down of the stock classes for idbl:

the sub enclosure must be in the OEM cargo area.
one amplifier and one cap may be used per sub.
the vehicle interior must remain stock, or stock equivalent.
OEM approved seats must be installed.
speakers forward of B pillar are for SQ purposes only.
no pick-up cut throughs (box in bed of truck, back wall of cabin cut out)
boxes in SUV's and vans can be no taller than 25" and can be no further forward than half the distance from B pillar to back of vehicle.
no affiliation or sponsorship from anyone in the car audio industry. all equipment must be purchased through retail channels.
no walls.

the stock catagory is broken into subwoofer area.
1-160 sq in. two 10's at most, or three 8's, or a single 12. no 15's.
161-260 sq in. five 8's, or three 10's, or two 12's, or one 15, or one 18.
261+ is anything over ^^^

now dB drag is a bit different.
they have the street division rather than stock division.

street A:
maximum of 2 subs up to 12", or one sub that is no larger than 15"
street B:
maximum of 4 subs up to 12", or 2 subs no larger than 15", or one 18"
no more than 2 voice coils per sub.
cargo vans and commercial vehicles are prohibited.
no sponsored vehicles.

asylum24
08-30-2003, 04:26 PM
so basically sonce the interior is stock and you only have one 10 thts what makes u stock?

blue LEDz
08-30-2003, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by asylum24
so basically sonce the interior is stock and you only have one 10 thts what makes u stock?

yep:D i've thought about adding a second 10 and another amp, but that's going to cost another $700:eek: and i'd only do that for a large ported box designed for SPL, but it'd have a port insert for daily driving;)

walight01
08-30-2003, 07:09 PM
150 has NEVER BEEN BROKEN in stock class in iasca???


well see what mr. xxx has to say about that





just wish i didn't have to wait a few more months to get it.

blue LEDz
08-30-2003, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by walight01
150 has NEVER BEEN BROKEN in stock class in iasca???


well see what mr. xxx has to say about that





just wish i didn't have to wait a few more months to get it.

yes, it has. but not with a single 10 to my knowledge. i know of a 150.6 and a 150.2 in stock 1, both with dual 10 setups;) but trying for that with a single 10, that's going to take some serious designing:D and serious power. which is why i've designed a new 6th order BP, more SPL oriented, and i'm looking into getting the MA audio 4400 watt amp:p

skullet
08-31-2003, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by Proto2k
Wow 4400 watt. That is insane. I can't even begin to imagine how loud that could be. lol... cant remember the model of the amps, but a guy here in town has sittin at our local stereo shop his next install... 3 18" kicker l7 subs (the damn box weighs almost 700 pounds, they move it with a forklift... heheh) driven by 6 viper amps... if i remember right, theyll be pushin almost 20k watts thru those 3 subs...hows that for power? :D we call him the king of overkill... same guy that spent 15 GRAND on rims and tires for his escalade ext... 24" of chrome... not my thing, but he def makes it look good...

blue LEDz
08-31-2003, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by skullet
lol... cant remember the model of the amps, but a guy here in town has sittin at our local stereo shop his next install... 3 18" kicker l7 subs (the damn box weighs almost 700 pounds, they move it with a forklift... heheh) driven by 6 viper amps... if i remember right, theyll be pushin almost 20k watts thru those 3 subs...hows that for power? :D we call him the king of overkill... same guy that spent 15 GRAND on rims and tires for his escalade ext... 24" of chrome... not my thing, but he def makes it look good...

i've heard a lot of mixed feelings about the L7 18's. some say the 15's are better for SPL, and the 18's is all hype cause of the advertising. i've seen them in a comp, and i was impressed, though:D they each had 4 amps hooked to the 2 soloX's, each getting fed about 10K watts:eek: course i've also heard of W7's, brahma's, XXX's, inhumans, etc handling 30K watts each for spl comps:eek: i figure my extreme vehicle i'm planning will use a quadcoil sub with one MA audio 4,400 watt amp hooked to each coil:p and a 16+ volt electrical system;)

skullet
08-31-2003, 03:22 PM
holy mother of god... 30,000 watts???? :eek: i was gonna say thats ****in insanity, but then so is the **** this dudes buildin. lol... heres a couple of pics of the box, bout half-finished... one of them my friend stood in there so ppl who havent seen these subs can get an idea of their size... :eek:

skullet
08-31-2003, 03:23 PM
holy christ these things are big...

asylum24
08-31-2003, 03:33 PM
the shop i go to all the time just built there box for their show car and hooked it up... 2 solox's in a crx my god it was so loud

blue LEDz
08-31-2003, 05:52 PM
skullet, where are the ports?:eek: yeah they'll still get loud as **** in a sealed box, but if it's for SPL, gots to have ports;)

asylum24, i'm trying to decide between a single 15 or 18 in an old VW bug, so replacing the windows with plexi will be easy. looking into several brands, but i'm holding off to see how the brahma 18 is when it comes out;)

Doodsmack
08-31-2003, 09:11 PM
Wow, I would love to hear those 3 Kicker 18s inside a car. lol.

Pimpprotege69
08-31-2003, 10:46 PM
I dont think you would. You would have brain damage and lose control of your bowels.

Motegi
08-31-2003, 11:46 PM
AWe comeon pimp diesel I do that anyways! :eek:


Blue stop tryin to be a audio guru I whop yo ass

Pimpprotege69
08-31-2003, 11:50 PM
I hope you wear those "oops I crapped my pants diapers" They might be needed.

Motegi
09-01-2003, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by Pimpprotege69
I hope you wear those "oops I crapped my pants diapers" They might be needed.

HA HA HA I made the theme song while...crapping my pants! ;)

asylum24
09-01-2003, 12:45 AM
hehe old vw bugs are awsome... tahts the store's next show car... 24 10's they wont tell me what 10s though : ( its so freakin awsome looking cuz they welded the old triangle windows with sheet metal and then bondoed over it so its smooth and the giant ass box is built and believe it or not there is still room for both the passenger seat and hte drivers seat and still room for the amps.... its gona be so friggen loud when its done

skullet
09-01-2003, 06:58 AM
Originally posted by blue LEDz
skullet, where are the ports?:eek: yeah they'll still get loud as **** in a sealed box, but if it's for SPL, gots to have ports;)

asylum24, i'm trying to decide between a single 15 or 18 in an old VW bug, so replacing the windows with plexi will be easy. looking into several brands, but i'm holding off to see how the brahma 18 is when it comes out;) as far as i know, hes not gonna be showin it or anything... as for the comps, if he enters any at all, theyll be local ones, so he wont have a prob... who else is gonna have that kinda cone area?? heheh... nah, hes more of just the type of guy wit WAY too much extra bling that likes to show off. heheh... nothin wrong wit that, right? :D

btw, heres what his truck looks like, but now his hood is primered black instead of white (looks a lot better..) and he has a lexani full bodykit on it... gettin it repainted AGAIN in a month or two...

EDIT: apparently he painted his hood b4 this pic.. lol.. but no kit in this one, this was when his engine got fried by a fllod, it was sittin at a dealership, and some jackass broke into his truck and stole EVERYTHING... the dealership conveniently had placed his alarm on the front seat... :scratch:

asylum24
09-01-2003, 07:34 AM
wow thats a horrible green:p

skullet
09-01-2003, 07:55 AM
LOL!! gotta see it in person, it looks a lot better. got silver metal-flake all thru it... DEF one of a kind tho... hehehe

blue LEDz
09-01-2003, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by Motegi
AWe comeon pimp diesel I do that anyways! :eek:


Blue stop tryin to be a audio guru I whop yo ass

whop who's ass?:confused: i own you, remember?;)
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid37/pa9353221ff73872b992e565121a51864/fd1c4891.jpg

don't make me bust out the one of you waxing my car too:p

Pimpprotege69
09-01-2003, 11:42 AM
Uh oh , you have opened up a large can of worms with that one.

asylum24
09-01-2003, 03:36 PM
mmm i liek that picture :)

blue LEDz
09-01-2003, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by asylum24
mmm i liek that picture :)


here's my one nice comment of the day:
she looks much better in person, trust me;)

asylum24
09-01-2003, 03:51 PM
looks fine(and i do emphasize fine) to me in the pic

Motegi
09-01-2003, 05:04 PM
remind me not to be nice enough/ hospitable enough to let you stay at my house, bathe you, feed you and wash your car again.

blue LEDz
09-01-2003, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by Motegi
remind me not to be nice enough/ hospitable enough to let you stay at my house, bathe you, feed you and wash your car again.

don't i remind you that every time i talk to you?:D

asylum24
09-01-2003, 05:08 PM
can i stay ;)

Pimpprotege69
09-01-2003, 05:09 PM
Nope you must have at least a 1999 protege and over or you do not qualify. Sorry :(

Motegi
09-01-2003, 05:10 PM
Hey bitch where are the links to the matting for my trunk?


And yes you can asylum ;)

asylum24
09-01-2003, 05:15 PM
ha guess you were wrong there pimpprotege! muah!

Im gonna get my car washed take lots of picstures... err wait damnit! shes friggin a days drive away atleast!

Pimpprotege69
09-01-2003, 05:18 PM
Yup, too bad :(

asylum24
09-01-2003, 05:19 PM
but see its hte htought that counts

asylum24
09-01-2003, 05:20 PM
BTW skullet... your avatar is ****ing scary... im ****tin my pants lookin at it

Motegi
09-01-2003, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by asylum24
BTW skullet... your avatar is ****ing scary... im ****tin my pants lookin at it

LOOKS LIKE BLUE LEDZ!!!

Pimpprotege69
09-01-2003, 05:24 PM
never **** your pants , never a good thing

Pimpprotege69
09-01-2003, 05:24 PM
Omg who stole that Gif animation of BLUE LEDZ! You better sue his ass.

Motegi
09-01-2003, 05:27 PM
http://www.clubprotege.com/avatar.php?userid=103&dateline=1062337320
YOUR AUDIO MOD!

Pimpprotege69
09-01-2003, 05:28 PM
Dam Blue why such short legs. You know what they say short legs short .................

Motegi
09-01-2003, 05:30 PM
Short




















term memory :D

Pimpprotege69
09-01-2003, 05:30 PM
Right :)

blue LEDz
09-01-2003, 05:34 PM
you all suck:( don't make me use my power to start editing or deleting **** talking in my section:D

Motegi
09-01-2003, 05:38 PM
****ER****ER!

Pimpprotege69
09-01-2003, 05:38 PM
Uhhhhhhhhh oh, we are shaking in our shorts . LOL:roflmao:

Motegi
09-01-2003, 05:40 PM
This threatenin talk is kinda kinky. Makin me horney ;)
Your system loud enough to drown out my screams :p

Pimpprotege69
09-01-2003, 05:40 PM
It gets the job done.

asylum24
09-01-2003, 05:41 PM
female screams gives me power to keep on pushin..mmmm scream baby scream

Motegi
09-01-2003, 05:42 PM
Power damn that bitch is ugly STOP POSTING HER NASTY ASS!

blue LEDz
09-01-2003, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by Motegi
This threatenin talk is kinda kinky. Makin me horney ;)
Your system loud enough to drown out my screams :p

ok, no flirting on here, you know the rules:p

for those of you that don't know, everyone thinks foxy is puerto rican cause she's got a big ass. and you want to know why she has a big ass, here it is:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid40/p7500c43085dc579c032b798c78087958/fd021e29.jpg
she ate a whole damned cake for breakfast:eek:

Pimpprotege69
09-01-2003, 05:43 PM
She looks like every stroke of the wax is torture for her. You can see the pain . She's trying to get the stench of failure out of the car.

asylum24
09-01-2003, 05:45 PM
:whipping: now thats some kinky stuff

Motegi
09-01-2003, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by Pimpprotege69
She looks like every stroke of the wax is torture for her. You can see the pain . She's trying to get the stench of failure out of the car.

Might as well :40oz: It aint gonna happen

asylum24
09-01-2003, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by Pimpprotege69
She looks like every stroke of the wax is torture for her. You can see the pain . She's trying to get the stench of failure out of the car.

I dont know what to think about this post wether to take it like a 13 year old boy or umm an 18 year old... wait nevermind its the same idea that comes to mind... mmmm:wackit:

Pimpprotege69
09-01-2003, 05:50 PM
Say what asylum ? :confused:

asylum24
09-01-2003, 05:51 PM
idont know either i think im suffering from sleep deprivation or how ever you spell it

Pimpprotege69
09-01-2003, 05:51 PM
Yea , true . Get some sleep.

asylum24
09-01-2003, 05:52 PM
i think its t hat you said "stroke" that got me movin and you said "her car" that could be taken as "her box"

Pimpprotege69
09-01-2003, 05:54 PM
Uhhh wasn't even close to what I was talking about. LOL
Come back in about 8 hrs when you have your head on straight.

Motegi
09-01-2003, 05:55 PM
One word for you:



PORN

asylum24
09-01-2003, 05:56 PM
good idea....head in the gutter and sideways.... i got it... be back later... errr wait thats not right.. ARGH!:banghead:

asylum24
09-01-2003, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by Motegi
One word for you:



PORN
Oh ive got that undercontrol ;)


:wackit: :wackit: :wackit: :wackit: :wackit:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid37/pa9353221ff73872b992e565121a51864/fd1c4891.jpg

Motegi
09-01-2003, 05:58 PM
ha haha go build a box that fits your needs ;)

asylum24
09-01-2003, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by Motegi
ha haha go build a box that fits your needs ;)

what kind of box are u talin about?

Motegi
09-01-2003, 06:01 PM
hey now Im not even nakie in that pic!

Pimpprotege69
09-01-2003, 06:01 PM
In asylum's case , .00001 cu ft. sealed

blue LEDz
09-01-2003, 06:02 PM
ok, stop post whoring in here. i don't want to have to lock this thread:(

Pimpprotege69
09-01-2003, 06:04 PM
Fine , Mr. Blue :chicken:

asylum24
09-01-2003, 06:05 PM
:( i cry...and u got your measurements wrong on that box size pimp.... see the decimal needs to be moved over to the right about 6 places:)

Pimpprotege69
09-01-2003, 06:07 PM
Yea yea. :bsmeter:

Motegi
09-01-2003, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by blue LEDz
ok, no flirting on here, you know the rules:p

for those of you that don't know, everyone thinks foxy is puerto rican cause she's got a big ass. and you want to know why she has a big ass, here it is:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid40/p7500c43085dc579c032b798c78087958/fd021e29.jpg
she ate a whole damned cake for breakfast:eek:


Eat your words like I ate that damn cake. Jeez that was insulting :doughpoke :spank:

asylum24
09-01-2003, 06:19 PM
that was harsh blue.... just plain harsh

Pimpprotege69
09-01-2003, 06:21 PM
Not cool , Not cool at all. Lets see some pics of you. You Jim carrey looking fool.

blue LEDz
09-01-2003, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by asylum24
that was harsh blue.... just plain harsh

she know's i'm just kidding;) now no more post whoring.


Originally posted by Pimpprotege69
Not cool , Not cool at all. Lets see some pics of you. You Jim carrey looking fool.

dude, why would you ask another dude for pics?!:jerkit:
if she dated me, i'm obviously not fuggly looking;)
but if you need to see who i am, here ya go:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid48/pb9a33d7fd99ed7ba659bcae667857b66/fcb99f7e.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid34/p0d5616e2cf29bb4325a95d06fa3fc04d/fd374881.jpg

asylum24
09-01-2003, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by blue LEDz

dude, why would you ask another dude for pics?!


:gay: :D

Motegi
09-01-2003, 09:04 PM
If I was a dude I would want pics of his sheepish ass too. :D

OK PEOPLE WE ARE TALKIN ABOUT STEREO **** FROM NOW ON!

Pimpprotege69
09-01-2003, 10:45 PM
Hahah , your such a cutie thats why. LMAO
Hows that big wood box in your trunk sound?

skullet
09-02-2003, 07:15 AM
Originally posted by asylum24
BTW skullet... your avatar is ****ing scary... im ****tin my pants lookin at it LMFAO!! i love that reaction... :asthanos:

skullet
09-02-2003, 07:20 AM
and btw... i can cook a MEAN chocolate cake. LOL :D

Pimpprotege69
09-02-2003, 10:51 AM
What is that avatar anyway?

PhatTrax
09-02-2003, 02:55 PM
If you guys think that 20k watts through 3 subs is alot. My subs have been tested to handle up to 8kwrms each. Can you say boom? heheheh

blue LEDz
09-02-2003, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by PhatTrax
If you guys think that 20k watts through 3 subs is alot. My subs have been tested to handle up to 8kwrms each. Can you say boom? heheheh

hehe, wait till you get that XXX12:D i've heard of burping them with around 30Kwatts:eek:

ADMIN NOTE: aside from skullet's response about WTF his avatar is, nothing else except audio discussion in this thread;)

Pimpprotege69
09-02-2003, 04:37 PM
How can a electrical system take that much power. That could light up a small city!

blue LEDz
09-02-2003, 04:54 PM
a **** ton of batteries;) all 16 volt batteries, too:D it would take quite a few alternators to pump out enough juice to power the amps and recharge the batteries, and 16 volts would kill a stock electrical system, so they use battery chargers to recharge a huge bank of batteries between burps. there are ove 100K watt systems out there;)

Pimpprotege69
09-02-2003, 05:12 PM
It should be , stock system one battery , stock alt. Then see what they produce.

blue LEDz
09-02-2003, 05:14 PM
that's what the stock classes are for;) extreme classes are when they start getting crazy:D

asylum24
09-02-2003, 05:19 PM
i wish a company would make a 10,000 watt amp that didnt make my headlights dim

PhatTrax
09-02-2003, 05:35 PM
shoot, with just 1500 watts my lights dim. anyone have any tips to stop this?

Pimpprotege69
09-02-2003, 06:23 PM
Nothing really you can do. Caps might help.

blue LEDz
09-02-2003, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by PhatTrax
shoot, with just 1500 watts my lights dim. anyone have any tips to stop this?

first you need to make sure everything is properly wired. which includes proper size wire, proper grounds, a ground kit up front helps in some cases, adding another wire from the alt to the battery sometimes helps, too. you also need to upgrade from the stock battery. i highly recomend spiral cell batteries like optima. and if that doesn't work, put a cap inline with the headlights;) with a red top spiral cell under my hood, and a huge battery in my trunk, i have no headlight dim with 1400 watts rms for daily driving, and an alternator that only puts out 63 amps:eek: too bad the vibrations from the sub destroyed the battery in the trunk, which killed the red top up front:mad: oh well, i learned my lesson, don't use anything but heavy duty batteries in the trunk with the vibration;) BTW, i have no caps, other than the one built into the amps:D

Motegi
09-02-2003, 07:34 PM
OMG forgive my ignorance but WTF are caps!?!?!

skullet
09-02-2003, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by Pimpprotege69
What is that avatar anyway? well, from what i put underneath it, i dont even know. lol.. but it makes me laugh.... :)

skullet
09-02-2003, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by Motegi
OMG forgive my ignorance but WTF are caps!?!?! a cap is a shortened version of capacitor... heres a small but decent one for ya...

Motegi
09-02-2003, 08:48 PM
Ok wtf does it do?

Pimpprotege69
09-02-2003, 08:51 PM
Its basically a reserve for the electrical system to provide some more ooomph for the subs where you could not otherwise.

usually a .5 farad for every 500 watts rms. :D

PhatTrax
09-03-2003, 05:18 AM
Originally posted by Pimpprotege69
Its basically a reserve for the electrical system to provide some more ooomph for the subs where you could not otherwise.

usually a .5 farad for every 500 watts rms. :D

Yeah, unfortunately caps cost a bit and with a system like mine I'm better off getting a second battery. I need to find some crimpers/cutters for 2 and 4 gauge cable so i can properly wire my amp. I also got some extra 4 gauge to ground my battery to the chasis. Now all I need a 3.5cuft enclosure tuned at 35hz, some components, another amp, and a metra kit and I'll be doin good!

blue LEDz
09-03-2003, 09:47 AM
capacitors work basically the same as a battery, except that they can recharge and discharge faster. the downside is they only hold a tiny amount of power. they are typically used as a bandaid fix to not having a large enough alternator or enough battery power. in a properly designed and built system, they serve little purpose except to help level out the voltage, not so much for the amps, but for the the rest of the components like the head unit and processors. the head unit and processors are more effected by the low voltage and won't put out as clean of a signal when the voltage drops. where as the newer class D, T, X, etc, amps are less effected by voltage drops. they are designed to put out close to the same power at 12 volts and 14 volts, unlike the older class A, B, A/B amps that could lose 50% or more of their power from dropping from 14 to 12 volts. with unregulated amps, having a capacitor will more than likely help the sub amp, but since most amps used today are regulated, caps do little to no good, except to look good:D i swear by extra batteries, as do most SPL competitors;)

PhatTrax, i highly recomend www.knukonceptz.com for all your wiring needs:D i've used them, as well as many others on here, and i must say the service was great, and the shippment was fast. BTW, do you know the resonant freq of a P5? i know the sedans are around 46-47, so tuning your box so low won't help as much for SPL comps. but tuning it higher and having a port insert for daily driving might be a better way to go;)

PhatTrax
09-03-2003, 02:20 PM
not sure on the resonant frequency, all the wiring i can get from my friend, and i was gonna tune it low for sq, but i could always get a port insert.

maz94protege
09-04-2003, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by blue LEDz

hopefully more of the members from the former protegeclub will find their way over here;)




Im sure they all or most will find out bout this forum!!:cool:

blue LEDz
09-04-2003, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by PhatTrax
not sure on the resonant frequency, all the wiring i can get from my friend, and i was gonna tune it low for sq, but i could always get a port insert.


hey, i was talking to pimpprotege69, and he said the resonant freq is around 44 hz, from what he can tell;)

walight01
09-04-2003, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by blue LEDz
hey, i was talking to pimpprotege69, and he said the resonant freq is around 44 hz, from what he can tell;)

coolness

blue LEDz
09-04-2003, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by walight01
coolness

oh yeah, i forgot you had a p5 too:D if someone with a p5 and a 10 or 12 in a sealed box would go to a local shop that has an RTA and have their p5's resonant frequency checked, that would be very useful;)

walight01
09-04-2003, 08:27 PM
thats the first thing i'm going to do when i get all my stuff in and installed. do you think matting the car can change the resonant freq?

blue LEDz
09-04-2003, 08:30 PM
sound dampening will lower the resonant freq, depending on how much you put in;)

onehawaiian
09-05-2003, 01:14 AM
regulate!
:uzi:

PhatTrax
09-05-2003, 04:13 AM
Originally posted by blue LEDz
oh yeah, i forgot you had a p5 too:D if someone with a p5 and a 10 or 12 in a sealed box would go to a local shop that has an RTA and have their p5's resonant frequency checked, that would be very useful;)

I have a sealed enclosure atm, do shops usually charge for this?

blue LEDz
09-05-2003, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by PhatTrax
I have a sealed enclosure atm, do shops usually charge for this?

yeah, ususally between $10 and $20, but some are free;) a decent shop that wants you as a customer will probably charge only $10:biggrin: