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    My little sister is doing a science project. Back in the day we used to blow up plastic bottles using aluminum foil and toilet bowl cleaner called "the works". The stuff that they bought was now a thicker formula, and doesn't seem to react the same way with the aluminum, therefore it doesn't blow **** up. Which sucks.

    So i checked the bottle of the little ammount that I still have left in mine, and the active ingredient is Hydrogen Chloride. Does ANYONE know another cleaning product that may have this ingrediant in it that I could pick up at like walmart or something?
    Dan
    dreesemonkey

    #2
    A quick web search said that Lysol Toilet cleaner has 9% Hydrogen Chloride.

    Off to the store you go!

    ~HH

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      #3
      Originally posted by hihoslva
      A quick web search said that Lysol Toilet cleaner has 9% Hydrogen Chloride.

      Off to the store you go!

      ~HH
      Thanks. I was just at wally world yesterday, and the lysol I found was hydrochloric acid (which I don't think works)... I'll have to keep looking!
      Dan
      dreesemonkey

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        #4
        I am pretty sure Hydrogen Chloride (HCl) is the same thing as Hydrochloric Acid. I wonder if one is usually sold as more dilute than the other.

        In any case, I was able to confirm my suspision at the EPA web site.

        Here's the entry for Hydrogen Chloride: http://www.epa.gov/iris/subst/0396.htm

        Under synonyms Hydrochloric Acid is listed.

        Edit: referencing a chem book I have it appears that Hydrochloric Acid is basically Hydrogen Chloride in the aqueous form. Hydrogen Chloride is actually a gas.

        Additionally, here's a good .PDF on HCl and some of the nasty things it can do (to both a person and materials).
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          #5
          Hey, thanks for the info! I think the problem with the cleaner that we were using is that it is now a 'thicker' and probably more diluted formula. I'm going to try and find something still liquid. Stupid company's changine their products so I can't blow up plastic containers!
          Dan
          dreesemonkey

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            #6
            theres is alot of ways to do wut ur trying u can try dry ice and water, lemon and bakingsoda, alot of sweetnlow and some coke, and theres more just cant think rite now
            i is dumb

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              #7
              Hydrogen Chloride and Hydrochloric acid are the same thing.

              Anyway - you can also try vinegar and baking soda:

              Fill the bottle about 1/4 with vinegar. Then take a tissue and fill with baking soda, and tie it at the top with thin string, making something like a teabag.

              Lower the teabag into the bottle (WITHOUT touching the vinegar), and screw the top back on with the string hanging out - so now the teabag is suspended above thevinegar inside the sealed bottle.

              Tip the bottle on its side to let the vinegar & baking soda mix, and stand the hell back!

              ~HH

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                #8
                Lye* reacts with aluminum and water quite vigorously.
                If you ever look at Draino, it has crystals of lye, and small flecks of aluminum!
                * Lye being NaOH or some other base (not acid)

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