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Protege_Joe
08-29-2005, 08:12 PM
Im thinking of getting either a Scion XB or a 2006 Mazda3......Mazda3 2.3 is winning my vote though...cause I have a Protege and there cool. Anyways the question is...whats the 1/4 mile diference between the sports shift automatic and the manual....i know the manual is a little faster then the regular auto...but what about the sports shift..thanks

zerocover
08-29-2005, 10:28 PM
Sport shift = auto
The auto shifts at most power, that is where you must shift to make the quickest pass.

Its still a slush box.

95ProLeila
08-30-2005, 01:01 AM
autos are for pansies

MazdaRacer
08-30-2005, 11:04 AM
I don't know the 1/4 mile numbers, but i've consistently seen the ATX dyno ~10whp less than the 5sp.

D323
08-31-2005, 12:00 AM
sport shift is a cool idea, but from a car enthusiast stand point, MT is the way to go.

GrayZoom
09-08-2005, 01:26 PM
autos are for pansies

:werd: 5 speed all the way.

GrayZoom
09-08-2005, 01:27 PM
Im thinking of getting either a Scion XB or a 2006 Mazda3......Mazda3 2.3 is winning my vote though...cause I have a Protege and there cool. Anyways the question is...whats the 1/4 mile diference between the sports shift automatic and the manual....i know the manual is a little faster then the regular auto...but what about the sports shift..thanks

Have you decided yet? The Mazda 3 is really nice and with the 06 you get the auto climate control, AMB, etc. Options the 04 and 05 didn't get.

MazdaRacer
09-08-2005, 01:50 PM
man, i didn't i noticed you said Scion Xb...i thought you were comparing the Tc....by all means, the Mazda3 over the xbox, IMHO, infact, ANYTHING over the xbox.

D323
09-08-2005, 02:21 PM
man, i didn't i noticed you said Scion Xb...i thought you were comparing the Tc....by all means, the Mazda3 over the xbox, IMHO, infact, ANYTHING over the xbox.

yeah my friend has one of those, and they are roomy for long drives. Thats about the only thing they have going for them.

dapro
09-08-2005, 04:42 PM
I just got off the phone with mazda, the sport shift automatic is actually a standard transmission with a computer controlled motor that shifts the gears...which is actually called a automated transmission, I have a few semi trucks with automated transmission in them...and all they are is a standard transmission with a box of motors in top that shift the gears....

DaPro

D323
09-08-2005, 05:41 PM
I just got off the phone with mazda, the sport shift automatic is actually a standard transmission with a computer controlled motor that shifts the gears...which is actually called a automated transmission, I have a few semi trucks with automated transmission in them...and all they are is a standard transmission with a box of motors in top that shift the gears....


DaPro

weird didnt realize that... I thought of it as more of an auto with the driver retaining some control.

MazKid
09-08-2005, 06:38 PM
I've driven the autos on the highway etc, it's pretty lame. First off shifts are slow and engine braking while slowing down just feels horrible. Sure, you can run the car into the redline, but way? It's useless.

The 5 speed owns. Great shifter feel and pretty quick shifts.

95ProLeila
09-08-2005, 08:14 PM
I just got off the phone with mazda, the sport shift automatic is actually a standard transmission with a computer controlled motor that shifts the gears...which is actually called a automated transmission, I have a few semi trucks with automated transmission in them...and all they are is a standard transmission with a box of motors in top that shift the gears....

DaPro

perhaps you misunderstood. smells a little fishy to me, because what you just described is an SMG and if it were an SMG then they would call it that.

dapro
09-08-2005, 10:07 PM
perhaps you misunderstood. smells a little fishy to me, because what you just described is an SMG and if it were an SMG then they would call it that.

then pickup the phone and call your local mazda shop, ask a mechanic in the service department....try it, they will tell you the same thing....then post YOUR results.....???

as I stated I work on these all week long, the only thing I want to know about them is what engages and disengages the clutch on the mazda 3.....on my automated shifts we still have to use the clutch when you start and stop....?

Here is a pic of a automated transmission from a semi, notice the motors on the top:
http://www.roadranger.com/NASApp/cs/BlobServer?GXHC_GX_jst=c7014444662d6164&GXHC_JSESSIONID=e53a3e13103497fa&blobcol=urldata&blobheader=image%2Fjpg&blobkey=id&blobtable=MungoBlobs&blobwhere=1082235512837

MazKid
09-08-2005, 10:22 PM
It's electronically controlled...not controlled by motors. Atleast that's how I understand it.

Prototender
09-08-2005, 11:00 PM
go mazda3 sp2.3 and from driving my friends 2.3 a few times, damn i like that acceleration. just imagine more power, and i never want to hear automatic mentioned on this website, unless its how to get rid of it. almost makes me sick thinking about an auto.

95ProLeila
09-08-2005, 11:16 PM
get me the part number for a new clutch and i'll believe it.

Protege_Joe
09-12-2005, 09:56 PM
autos rule....i dunno i dont want the XB anymore...so maybe its gonna be the 2.3

Prototender
09-12-2005, 10:04 PM
im tellin ya get the sp2.3

MazKid
09-12-2005, 10:51 PM
SP 23 doesn't exist anymore, they're all sold.

D323
09-13-2005, 12:09 PM
SP 23 doesn't exist anymore, they're all sold.

theres like 2 up at the dealer I was at on saturday?

What do ya mean sold out?

MazKid
09-13-2005, 03:11 PM
We had like 5 in, and they all sold out, and it was the end of the SP 2.3 model. I don't doubt other dealerships having 1 or 2 left, but they won't get anymore. They prolly have autos left. Our 2 sticks(1 sedan 1 hatch) sold within a week of us getting them, and the other 3 cars(all hatch autos) sold a week or 2 later.

charles
09-13-2005, 03:31 PM
I just got off the phone with mazda, the sport shift automatic is actually a standard transmission with a computer controlled motor that shifts the gears...which is actually called a automated transmission, I have a few semi trucks with automated transmission in them...and all they are is a standard transmission with a box of motors in top that shift the gears....

DaProWhoever told you this is stupid!

Prototender
09-13-2005, 08:09 PM
well that sucks.