Who has: 323 BPT Swap?

[Suzuka323]

Who has done this swap?

I'm looking for someone that I can speak with about doing this swap, I plan to attack this project very soon and am in need of some guidance.

Basically what I am looking for is someone that can give me a list of what I'll need to complete the swap, as well as someone that can tell me what I'll need to change and look for as I put miles on the new engine.

Thanks.

PM me if you can help.

[pigeon]

nobody is going to help you, and they are all going to lead you to the search function and tell you "if you have a question that hasnt been answered before we will gladly answer"

aside from that, you're asking for a big spoon in your mouth
which nobody will do

[Suzuka323]

nobody is going to help you, and they are all going to lead you to the search function and tell you "if you have a question that hasnt been answered before we will gladly answer"

aside from that, you're asking for a big spoon in your mouth
which nobody will do

The problem is, I am not finding all my answers, I have a checklist started, but want to make sure everything is in order, I'm not looking to be "spoonfed", I just need to get this done in a timely manner due to this being my daily driver, I don't have the luxury of having something missing that I won't be able to get for several days due to ordering issues.

My goal is to have this done in a weekend when the time comes. I'm purchasing the smaller items I need to complete this swap.

Sorry if this is an inconvinience for you or anybody else, that's why I requested a PM from whomever has done it.

[cablemirc]

http://www.wihandyman.com/movement/swaplist.htm

fourscore and seven years ago, a guy named braden who had a small company called BLT performance (barely legal transplants... lol)worked this up for all of us.. i, thoughtfully enough, saved it to show you when you needed it and it was long gone. this list is a strong recommendation from what was one of the communities premier tuners, back before he sold off his protege and bought an EVO VIII.

enjoy your "spoon". there are still a few people who truly want you to stay an enthusiast around here. there was a time around here when "spooning" information was something that people did out of pure enthusiasm.... but those days are dead and gone.

good luck with your project.

[thegreatelbobo]

DO NOT do this on a daily driver.........

Get a beater car to drive before doing this swap, it's pretty time consuming. Plus it would be wise to factor in any problems.

[protégébob]

DO NOT do this on a daily driver.........

Get a beater car to drive before doing this swap, it's pretty time consuming. Plus it would be wise to factor in any problems.

Yeah look at all of the Zoom Zoom Boom's lately!

[OCD-SPEED]

I did my swap in a week flat, half that time was spent waiting on a tranny. If you need to know AIM me at "mazdaboost" ill give u my number. I can tell you what you REALLY need. That list was a crock. You dont NEED alot of that stuff. Recommended maybe.

[jnorion]

The problem is, I am not finding all my answers, I have a checklist started, but want to make sure everything is in order, I'm not looking to be "spoonfed"

You're a lot more likely to get answers if you put a question out like "I've been reading old threads and I've figured out that I need X, Y, and Z parts, but I'm not entirely sure about this other part, and can anyone tell me for certain?" People are always willing to clarify the answers you've found, even if it may seem like a stupid question. But very few people are willing to just tell you the whole thing from beginning to end when it's been explained before.

[Lex]

If you have never done an engine swap before - you're not going to finish in a weekend. As it has been said, a lot of the information is here ... many of us who have done the swap have posted a lot about it. Ask a direct, non-trivial question and it will be answered.

Truth is, no one will be with you when you're doing the swap, so knowing and finding things out for yourself will be a really good start. If you read a lot and know the car inside-out, you will be able to work through problems that come up - and that they will.

Good luck and keep us posted.

[FE3-323]

Besides the obvious select few who:
#1 jump to conclusions excessively to fast
#2 Have a 2 liter bottle wedged in places which cause difficulty passing bowel movements.

im on most all of the instant message programs & im more then willing to assist you in answering questions you have. Do your best to ignore the negativity following those folks who spread it thick upon the forum.

[Suzuka323]

Thank you to those of you who understand what I'm going through, I've looked this site over as well as 323performance and haven't been able to come up with the answers I needed.

I do actually have a couple of assistants in this swap that have done more than their fair share of engine swaps from unigue customs to plain ol V8 swaps in Mustangs which I have assisted in.

I'm not the type of person to just jump in haphazardly and hope to get this done in an hour, but I am the type of person who gathers all the info I can before I start to make sure everything is covered before the project begins.

For those of you who think it's necessary to call it being spoon fed, then perhaps a DIY sticky in the engine swap section would be a good idea since this has been done by other members before. Just a thought.

Again, Thanks to those who are willing to help me through this.

As for the rest of you....

[cablemirc]

no problem, glad to be of help. that's what we're here for. i mean, after all, it would be good to go over exactly what you need for the record and the general users. even if it has ben discussed 100,000 times, you cant discuss turbos too much.. you just cant. how to fix a seatbelt beep? yes, that can be overdiscussed, but turbos are a fluid situation, not a cut and dry solder this and heatshrink that. turbo articles bring up forum intelligence across the board.... therefore, i must digress on the "if it's been asked before" clause. technical knowledge breeds technical users, and the more you have of both, the brighter the future of a forum. and if people cant understand that, then a public forum and enthusiasm producing community is no place for them.

anyhow, why dont you start us off by telling what you have so far, and what you think you may want or need? turbo engines are like underwear.. there's 500 different types, what you can do, and what you should do, and what you desire to do may be three seperate things.

i've seen setups so backyard hillbillied, that they have a high end bolt on turbo kit, and run the thing off the north american stock ecu with no fuel or harness upgrades at all.. you can get as fast and thrown together as you want, right down to putting a turbo, manifold piping and intercooler on what you have right now and calling it a day. i've also seen the other end where you can spend months or years building up the motor to exacly where you want it. it's NOT cut and dry. that's why i posted the list, there's a lot of options. and options and turbos go hand in hand.

what are your goals, performance wise, what would you like to see out of the car? what kind of driver are you? do you want mad power that will make a corvette owner's dick shrink? do you want a car that only has a tad more pick me up and go on the freeway?? so you want a killer solid setup for a freeway racing traffic dogding 5th gear stompin racecar? so you need to meet smog requiremnts in your state?

these things will help us choose the proper turbo setup for you, so please, ask, and answer as you can.. we're here to help.

[redfox]

DO NOT do this on a daily driver.........

why not? im going on a year and a half boosted in my daily driver, the only real problem i had was a blown turbo but it was ****ed when i got my engine... 16psi for a year and a half now no real problems other then minor stupid self inflicted things...

soon as i finish cleaning up my 323 i will be striping my protege and driving the 323

[Suzuka323]

Everything cablemirc said.....

Sweet, well so far, I don't own any of the bits and pieces, I have a friend out of state who has put together the parts I have discovered I needed so far. When the time comes, I'm driving the car out there and we're going to swap the engines and he's going to take the cash I owe him for the parts.

So far I have:

BPT less than 50,000 miles
ECU
Harness
Tranny

I'm trying to figure out what else is needed to reach my goal of 200whp, no less, and more is welcome. The first thing I want to do is get the motor swap done, I can take care of the larger turbo later.

I plan on:

T3/T4
HKS BOV
After Market IC

I really just want to make this car a performer all around, not necessarily a Vette beater, but maybe in the near future a Mustang and Camaro beater. I'm not sure how much power I really need to the pavement to accomplish that goal, but I figure 200-250 whp should be enough to atleast scare the hell outta them.

I will say, I have the option of going the GTX Swap, but haven't been able to find much at all about that swap thanks to the lack of BG info at 323performance.com. If that swap would be easier, I can go that route and actually get the motor as described above, but as the GTX motor and a 4WD tranny. I just figured I would have better luck with the BPT.

If anybody is wondering:

BPT <50,000 mi
Harness
ECU
Tranny
$1,400

GTX <50,000 mi
Harness
ECU
4WD Tranny
$1,100

The main thing I'm trying to accomplish is, a streetable, reliable turbo car that can move when I really need it to, I drive mostly highway and for those who've driven a SOHC know, it screams at about 80mph and doesn't sound like it'll take anymore. I'm not building a 1320 car or a weekend road warrior, but I do have the occasional showdown on the street(usually get stomped) and I drive extremely aggresive, so much so that my dad is the only one brave enough to ride with me.

That's the gest of it.

Open to suggestions.

Those who have nothing productive to say... leave, this isn't the thread for you.

Thanks

[jnorion]

why not? im going on a year and a half boosted in my daily driver, the only real problem i had was a blown turbo but it was ****ed when i got my engine... 16psi for a year and a half now no real problems other then minor stupid self inflicted things...

I think his point was the amount of time it would take to get the thing up and running again once the swap was started, not the reliability of the car once it was finished.