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    Is $5000 enough for a GTR swap?

    Ive aquired $5000 luckily, and was wondering if anyone that has done the GTR or GTX swap, is that enough to do the swap completely? The only real thing that Im gonna have a shop do would be drop the engine in because I dont have a garage right now. Maybe tuning to, but everything else I will do my self (guages, piping, i/c etc) is $5000 enough? Thanks
    Eat ****.

    #2
    Depends.

    (i dislike vague questions....they irritate me)
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    Originally posted by WTF
    Remember low compression makes more space for AIR, HEEELLOOOO!

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      #3
      how is it vague? Its pretty straight forward if you ask me. From the past people who have swapped a GTR or GTX engine into their bp, did they do it for less that $5000?
      Eat ****.

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        #4
        Yes, it does depend on a lot of things. What exactly are your goals with this?
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        Originally posted by pigeon
        well if you're a fan of inaccuracy and uncertainty.... then by all means, go set your timing by feel and sound

        while you're out there, you might as well adjust your air/fuel ratio by smell... and your tire pressure by ride height

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          #5
          im guessing $2000 for gtx motor and dropped in, everythings pretty strait forward since u got an lx.
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            #6
            Originally posted by 91ProtegeLX
            how is it vague? Its pretty straight forward if you ask me. From the past people who have swapped a GTR or GTX engine into their bp, did they do it for less that $5000?
            ok...

            intercooled? what kind? how much work is needed to fit this upfront if its a front-mount?

            piping material? can you weld that?

            tuning? how much? wideband? stand alone?

            you're going to bend a downpipe yourself? neat...

            going to do all new maintence items? belts? pulleys? tensioners? water pump? oil pump? new turbo rebuild? clutch? flywheel?

            turbo upgrade? wastegate upgrade? BOV upgrade? fuel system upgrade? ignition system upgrade?

            why don't you just rent a cherry picker from a shop? it'd save money.
            "Never run out of real estate, traction & ideas at the same time"
            -93 MR2, 129 ES
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            Originally posted by WTF
            Remember low compression makes more space for AIR, HEEELLOOOO!

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              #7
              and it's in the wrong damn forum too....being moved
              "Never run out of real estate, traction & ideas at the same time"
              -93 MR2, 129 ES
              ClubProtege.com Tech Articles

              Originally posted by WTF
              Remember low compression makes more space for AIR, HEEELLOOOO!

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                #8
                Its enough money if u do it right, GTR hard to come by and expensive. I would do it all myself if i were u if u have 5 grand u can afford a 200 dollar engine hoist. Jon

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                  #9
                  Let's see. Here's some, not all, of the things you'll need to buy:
                  GTR motor 2000
                  Engine management 1000
                  proper fuel pump 100
                  proper clutch 350
                  Used intercooler 250
                  Piping/ connectors 100
                  Downpipe 150
                  BOV 100

                  That alone puts you a little over the 4k mark and that is before installing the motor and tuning it to run properly. You'll most likely incur other expenses once you begin the project so I would say that you can easily go beyond the 5k mark. It's all about what you want out of the swap. A nice and reliable daily driver will definately cost more than a race prepared 1st gen............
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                  '91 LX
                  '03 Mazdaspeed Protege #235
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                  Originally posted by pigeon
                  well if you're a fan of inaccuracy and uncertainty.... then by all means, go set your timing by feel and sound

                  while you're out there, you might as well adjust your air/fuel ratio by smell... and your tire pressure by ride height

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Identity_X
                    Let's see. Here's some, not all, of the things you'll need to buy:
                    GTR motor 2000
                    Engine management 1000
                    proper fuel pump 100
                    proper clutch 350
                    Used intercooler 250
                    Piping/ connectors 100
                    Downpipe 150
                    BOV 100

                    That alone puts you a little over the 4k mark and that is before installing the motor and tuning it to run properly. You'll most likely incur other expenses once you begin the project so I would say that you can easily go beyond the 5k mark. It's all about what you want out of the swap. A nice and reliable daily driver will definately cost more than a race prepared 1st gen............




                    GTR motor 2000 not shipped 2300 shipped
                    Engine management 1000 more like 1300
                    proper fuel pump 125
                    proper clutch 350 not installed 650-700
                    Used intercooler 250ish
                    Piping/ connectors 100
                    Downpipe 150
                    BOV 100
                    Guages 200
                    Replacing gaskets and such 300
                    slim fan 50
                    exhaust 300
                    shop to install it all 1500-2000

                    You will also need a laptop to tune the haltech . You best bet would be to get a GTX front clip or motor and use the gtx ecu and install it all yourself

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                      #11
                      first off these prices are based on different things u can get stuff off ebay or from j/y for less and u can asstually use different parts
                      a couple weeks ago i saw a gtr front clip for 1900 shipped on ebay and u can get intercoolers from other cars nad use them too so dont always think 5000 wont be enuff cause u can always start searchin and it ll save alot of money
                      i is dumb

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                        #12
                        i could do the swap for 5000, but he doesnt wanna do the work

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                          #13
                          WTF you dont NEED a EMS!!

                          Invest in the GTR/GTX ECU. there 700 bucks at corksport. **** a $1300 EMS! you dont need it unless you are going for a track car.

                          And what are your plans? FMIC? stock? 180whp? daily driver/ track car???

                          you got to be more specfic here
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Protoss
                            WTF you dont NEED a EMS!!

                            Invest in the GTR/GTX ECU. there 700 bucks at corksport. **** a $1300 EMS! you dont need it unless you are going for a track car.

                            And what are your plans? FMIC? stock? 180whp? daily driver/ track car???

                            you got to be more specfic here


                            Of course u dont need one,

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Protoss
                              WTF you dont NEED a EMS!!

                              Invest in the GTR/GTX ECU. there 700 bucks at corksport. **** a $1300 EMS! you dont need it unless you are going for a track car.
                              Exactly why I asked what his plans are. I am actually in the process of buying all the parts for a decent turbo setup and I can tell you that the money adds up. If you want to put that VJ-23 to good use and don't want to do the work yourself (clutch replacment, motor swap, install misc parts) then I can tell you right now that it'll cost you more than 5k. And btw, the front clip on Ebay for $1900 is a GTX and that price is excluding shipping.
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                              '91 LX
                              '03 Mazdaspeed Protege #235
                              -------------------------

                              Originally posted by pigeon
                              well if you're a fan of inaccuracy and uncertainty.... then by all means, go set your timing by feel and sound

                              while you're out there, you might as well adjust your air/fuel ratio by smell... and your tire pressure by ride height

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