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Shades
04-23-2006, 02:32 PM
With over 250 horsepower, the MAZDASPEED3 redefines the meaning of speed. Its high-performance MZR 2.3-liter DISI Turbo engine, six-speed transmission, and razor-sharp handling turn it into a beast on the road. And with muscular, flared front fenders, floating fog lamps, aerodynamically powerful edges, and flush black interior it looks wild, too. Red stitching accents the seating, steering wheel, and shift knob for a swift, sporty refinement. And the 18”, 10-spoke aluminum alloy wheels, roof spoiler, and big, boisterous tailpipe keep the style flowing all the way to the rear end. But while other sports cars stop at “sports,” the MAZDASPEED3 features some remarkable assets. An upgraded brake system makes for alert and active safety. And for the tightest handing and responsiveness during hard cornering, Mazda provides the combined power of an enhanced suspension, the smart Mazda Advance Impact-energy Distribution and Absorption System, powerful four-wheel ABS, and a newly developed torque-reduction system with limited slip differential. Well engineered and beautifully designed, Mazda’s nimble MAZDASPEED3 is one of the fastest sports compacts with an FWD layout on the market.

http://images.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/images/vehicles/upcoming/ms3/veh_upcoming_ms3_7.jpg
I want one!!!

LINKS:
USA Website (http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=upcomingMS3)
Canada Website (http://www.mazda.ca/Root.asp) - Much better information and done in flash with pictures and a video (go to Vehicles -> Upcoming -> MAZDASPEED3)

323drift
04-23-2006, 06:22 PM
i've been trying to decide on a new car, the mazdaspeed 3 or...dare i say it....RSX Type S

escortkid
04-24-2006, 10:50 PM
wait for the new rsx if your gonna go that way. and as much as people are talking about the new civic id say its a great bet if you want to go to the evil empire. i got to flog one around on a track and its an impressive automobile.

zerocover
04-28-2006, 10:24 PM
I dont think your realizing the potential of the Msp3.
We all saw what highboost did to theres. Its an amazing engine.

Shades
05-07-2006, 12:29 PM
More info... it's gonna come with power-assisted 17" front and rear disc brakes. That's huge!

escortkid
05-18-2006, 07:43 PM
17 inch brakes ummm i doubt that..... that would require 20 inch wheels most likely.

D323
05-21-2006, 04:07 AM
From Mazda's site:


Focus on safety – upgraded brake system to match the high power

The starting point for MAZDASPEED3 safety package was to preserve the accurate, predictable handling of the original Mazda3. Large diameter 4-wheel disc brakes, ventilated 320 mm discs at front and solid 280 mm discs at rear, 8+9 inch tandem brake booster and a large 1 inch diameter master cylinder yield powerful and stable braking.

Standard equipment includes 4-wheel ABS, emergency brake assist, and dynamic stability control (DSC), all of which provide active safety for the MAZDASPEED3 in a range of driving scenarios. In addition, a rain-sensing wiper system and auto light system are also standard to give the driver a clear view of the road and help prevent accidents.

For protection during collision from any direction, MAZDASPEED3 employs the unique Mazda Advanced Impact energy Distribution and Absorption System (MAIDAS) to deliver a robust and safe body structure. Inside the cabin, front dual airbags are fitted as standard, along with side and curtain airbags. A collapsible brake pedal and revised steering column structure reduce the risk of injury to the driver's lower legs, while a seat belt reminder system, which confirms whether seatbelts are buckled or not, is also included to support the safety of the front and rear occupants.

escortkid
05-21-2006, 10:26 AM
so 12.6 inch brakes! at the front and 11 at the back! hardly 17 inches!

Shades
05-23-2006, 10:03 PM
More info... it's gonna come with power-assisted 17" front and rear disc brakes. That's huge!
What was I thinking when I posted that... :suckie:

matt_fulghum
06-04-2006, 01:30 AM
*bites his lip for badmouthing* but..... it's still got that terrible, awful Ford rear suspension. :(

mazdamp5
06-25-2006, 01:21 PM
All I have to sayt , is that it's to bad that they didn't make it all wheel drive, then it would atleast be ablet to compete with the WRX; all they would have had to do it use what they have in the Mazdaspeed 6;). But those are my thoughts.:down:

purewhitemp5
06-26-2006, 09:41 PM
I think they should build more than a limited number. Back when the Mazdaspeed pro came out the stealerships where jacking up the prices $3000- $4000 and calling it a limited availability charge. Same thing is going on right now with the Mazdaspeed6 not as bad as the protege got it , but it is happening.

mazdamp5
06-26-2006, 09:44 PM
I agree, if there is call for an item they should be doing there damndist to fill the need.

purewhitemp5
06-26-2006, 09:46 PM
All I have to sayt , is that it's to bad that they didn't make it all wheel drive, then it would atleast be ablet to compete with the WRX; all they would have had to do it use what they have in the Mazdaspeed 6;). But those are my thoughts.:down:


Mazda has stated its not trying to compete with the WRX or Evo when the Mazdaspeed6 came out. I guess to keep prices down and leave it to the aftermarket to build the hype up. I said aftermarket :roll: .

mazdamp5
06-26-2006, 10:00 PM
RIGGHHTTTTTT, to install and set up an aftermarket AWD system would be well into the $20000.00 mark, sorry I'm just stuck on AWD since I've driven the WRX down a paved loggin road at silly speeds(215km) I entered a corner at 180Km, kicked the back end out with a controled drift, then exelrated out at well above 200km( I wan't look at the speedo aty thsi piont, ( with the salesman in the backseat... heheh he was holding onto the oh **** handles with a big grinn on his face), and this was the first time i've ever driven this ca, it was like a well worn in basebal glove, you know how and what to do automaticly, silly easy car to drive fast.

purewhitemp5
06-26-2006, 11:55 PM
RIGGHHTTTTTT, to install and set up an aftermarket AWD system would be well into the $20000.00 mark, sorry I'm just stuck on AWD since I've driven the WRX down a paved loggin road at silly speeds(215km) I entered a corner at 180Km, kicked the back end out with a controled drift, then exelrated out at well above 200km( I wan't look at the speedo aty thsi piont, ( with the salesman in the backseat... heheh he was holding onto the oh **** handles with a big grinn on his face), and this was the first time i've ever driven this ca, it was like a well worn in basebal glove, you know how and what to do automaticly, silly easy car to drive fast.


All the new car saleman know me around here. So when I walked into the showroom and started towards the STi all I heard was no frikin way! We have a nice used WRX out on the lot. So they threw me the keys and told the rookie to go with me. All I can say is that rookie came back white as a ghost!

And by aftermarket in no way did I mean aftermarket AWD. cuz I already know that it would take a large sum of money to attempt.

94GLD-DX
07-06-2006, 09:22 PM
wait for the new rsx if your gonna go that way. and as much as people are talking about the new civic id say its a great bet if you want to go to the evil empire. i got to flog one around on a track and its an impressive automobile.


As far as I knew, there isnt gonna be a NEW RSX. Least that is what I have heard

escortkid
07-06-2006, 10:10 PM
its the third best selling car honda has in the us (honda and acura grouped together) has always been a civic with different body work trust me you can bet one will come. ive heard one is comeing and with a ka24

We Are Ninja
07-13-2006, 11:24 PM
I'm still a little skeptical about that Dynamic Stability Control and torque reduction system... The reviews I've read say that you're very aware that they working; kinda like they're holding your hand.

Hopefully you can turn them COMPLETELY off...

Silentbob343
07-28-2006, 09:52 PM
I'm still a little skeptical about that Dynamic Stability Control and torque reduction system... The reviews I've read say that you're very aware that they working; kinda like they're holding your hand.

Hopefully you can turn them COMPLETELY off...
and then you can torque steer toward the median

mazdamp5
07-28-2006, 10:00 PM
You know? They could have made it alot easier if they just made it a AWD car, none of the over complicated and over powered front wheel drive BS.

Silentbob343
07-28-2006, 10:08 PM
You know? They could have made it alot easier if they just made it a AWD car, none of the over complicated and over powered front wheel drive BS.
heh many over at NASIOC are saying that, but then it would've weighed easily as much as a WRX.

mazdamp5
07-28-2006, 10:42 PM
OOOHHHHH NOOOOO!!!!! Heaven for bid the car with a turbo engine that is .3 liters bigger then the WRX, has something near 25 more HP and more TQ, with a quik reflash of the ECU, I'm sure it would be up there with the mazda 6 which sits at 275 HP in stock format; yeah, I think I could deal with the car wieghing in at most 200lbs more, be more controlable in poor weather, BLA BLA BLA, WHat am I yammering on about, the car would just kick ass BIGG TIME. I've driven the WRX and I would waste time on the Mazdaspeed 3 unless its an AWD car, just think about entering a corner at 180 kick you back side out( without yanking the E-brake) with some simple modulation of the throttle and corrective aiming;), a nice controled drift, and accelerate hard out at speeds above 200, HUmm yeah, and that was the first time I had eveer driven one, as well as a first for driving a turbo and awd car.I'm sure mazda could pull off something as good but better in others then the scuby.

Silentbob343
07-28-2006, 11:19 PM
OOOHHHHH NOOOOO!!!!! Heaven for bid the car with a turbo engine that is .3 liters bigger then the WRX, has something near 25 more HP and more TQ, with a quik reflash of the ECU, I'm sure it would be up there with the mazda 6 which sits at 275 HP in stock format; yeah, I think I could deal with the car wieghing in at most 200lbs more, be more controlable in poor weather, BLA BLA BLA, WHat am I yammering on about, the car would just kick ass BIGG TIME. I've driven the WRX and I would waste time on the Mazdaspeed 3 unless its an AWD car, just think about entering a corner at 180 kick you back side out( without yanking the E-brake) with some simple modulation of the throttle and corrective aiming;), a nice controled drift, and accelerate hard out at speeds above 200, HUmm yeah, and that was the first time I had eveer driven one, as well as a first for driving a turbo and awd car.I'm sure mazda could pull off something as good but better in others then the scuby.
WTF are you ranting about? Many over at NASIOC wanted it to be AWD as well and many said they would have bought one if it was AWD. Secondly the 06 is factory underated you really think it only gained 3HP from the 2.0 to the 2.5? It has been getting easily 20-30 more WHP. Wait, I just realized you said .3 liters larger, you didn't know they upped the displacement from 2.0->2.5 did you?

The converse to making a vehicle with AWD is it adds weight and cost more, as of now it weighs less than a GTI. I'm guessing Mazda wanted to keep weight down. 200lbs is a lot of weight and Mazda isn't going to think about people reflashing it to get more power to compensate for weight....that's silly. Many people bitch that the WRX weighs in at 3200+ and the MSP3 would be around there with AWD.

I know Mazda can do AWD and I'm sure they have their reasons for not doing it here, most likely money related. The MSP3 would cost you a bit more with AWD as well. LOL, hell I took a crapload of **** over in the MSP3 thread at NASIOC for defending Mazda's ability to make a Turbo AWD car.

Speeds of 180-200? I hope you are talking about KPH? My brother owns an 02 WRX and is looking at getting an 07, depending on how the new 08 Impreza pans out. You won't be kicking the tail out on a stock WRX, they like to push in stock form.

Would I like it to be AWD? Yes, and it should be.

LM723
08-03-2006, 10:07 PM
i love the color.. True Red :)

Shades
09-07-2006, 11:08 AM
2007 MAZDASPEED3

Based upon the Mazda3 Sport hatchback, the MAZDASPEED3 gives sports-minded consumers a double dose of Zoom-Zoom. With its compact, lightweight body and maximum power of 263 horsepower @ 5500 rpm and 280 lb.-ft. of torque at 3000 rpm, the MAZDASPEED3 is one of the highest performance sports compacts with front-wheel-drive on the road today.

MAZDASPEED3 dramatically reinforces the acclaimed dynamics of the original Mazda3 and delivers maximum driving pleasure through outstanding performance and a superior chassis. To create this new benchmark, Mazda looked to embody the following three requirements:

Driving Fun: Formidable performance from the MZR 2.3L DISI Turbo engine, along with sharply responsive handling achieved by capitalizing on the characteristics of the compact, lightweight body.
Ownership Delight: Exterior styling that gives an immediate impression of driving fun, and an interior with a quality feel that exceeds expectations.
Everyday, User Friendly Convenience: An exceptional balance of driving pleasure with everyday functionality and comfort.

As a result, the flagship of the Mazda3 range features a stylishly sophisticated look combined with performance levels that make it one of the fastest sports compacts with a FWD layout. MAZDASPEED3 offers truly exhilarating acceleration from a standing start, superior passing acceleration in the practical speed range and one of the highest top speeds in its class.

Mazda has made some nice numbers with this car... 12HP short of the Mazdaspeed6.

Silentbob343
09-07-2006, 01:10 PM
2007 MAZDASPEED3

Based upon the Mazda3 Sport hatchback, the MAZDASPEED3 gives sports-minded consumers a double dose of Zoom-Zoom. With its compact, lightweight body and maximum power of 263 horsepower @ 5500 rpm and 280 lb.-ft. of torque at 3000 rpm, the MAZDASPEED3 is one of the highest performance sports compacts with front-wheel-drive on the road today.

MAZDASPEED3 dramatically reinforces the acclaimed dynamics of the original Mazda3 and delivers maximum driving pleasure through outstanding performance and a superior chassis. To create this new benchmark, Mazda looked to embody the following three requirements:

Driving Fun: Formidable performance from the MZR 2.3L DISI Turbo engine, along with sharply responsive handling achieved by capitalizing on the characteristics of the compact, lightweight body.
Ownership Delight: Exterior styling that gives an immediate impression of driving fun, and an interior with a quality feel that exceeds expectations.
Everyday, User Friendly Convenience: An exceptional balance of driving pleasure with everyday functionality and comfort.

As a result, the flagship of the Mazda3 range features a stylishly sophisticated look combined with performance levels that make it one of the fastest sports compacts with a FWD layout. MAZDASPEED3 offers truly exhilarating acceleration from a standing start, superior passing acceleration in the practical speed range and one of the highest top speeds in its class.

Mazda has made some nice numbers with this car... 12HP short of the Mazdaspeed6.
Guy over at NASIOC has driven it. He is a photographer so he got to spend a couple days with it. The only thing he really disliked was the cable shifter other than that he seemed impressed.

D323
09-07-2006, 03:33 PM
11 less hp than the speed6 from the same motor... I would suspect its the ECU...

wonder if the ECU's could be swapped to pickup that extra 11 hp? I already want one badly.

Silentbob343
09-07-2006, 03:41 PM
yeah it is most likely the ECU, but remember it is also a FWD platform with other systems to keep torque steer under control. Start playing with the power and car might not behave as you would want it. the aftermarket should be interesting to see what tuners do with it.

D323
09-07-2006, 03:48 PM
yeah it is most likely the ECU, but remember it is also a FWD platform with other systems to keep torque steer under control. Start playing with the power and car might not behave as you would want it. the aftermarket should be interesting to see what tuners do with it.


Take into account the additional weight and drivetrain loss of the AWD system, and I bet that the 6 has alot more power to be discovered in a FWD setup ;)


Meh, I want one to do some simple I/E suspension mods for a daily driver :evil:

Tjay
09-10-2006, 04:00 PM
How much MPG do you get out of these ms3?

Shades
09-11-2006, 10:29 AM
Check here... (http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=upcomingMS3)

MD323
09-11-2006, 11:14 AM
The quest for firepower
Employing the same 2.3-liter turbo four as the Mazdaspeed 6, but with retuned intake and exhaust systems, and a modified ECU that reduces torque levels in 1st through 3rd gears, this super-Mazda generates 264 hp (JIS) at 5,500 rpm and 280 lb-ft of torque at 3,000 rpm. That translates into a rather quick 0-60-mph time of 6.1 seconds, according to Maeda.


Given that this 3 inherits significant hardware from the Mazdaspeed 6, we queried why Maeda opted for front-wheel drive over the 6's 4WD. "To retain the 3's hatch-like feel, keep weight and cost down, and to clearly differentiate it from the Mazdaspeed 6," came back instantly, obviously a question he'd had before.

D323
09-14-2006, 02:24 AM
20/28 is listed in the EPA rating

The more I read, the more I want one.