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    Car Will Not Start Unless??????????

    Ok So im Driving the other day and my car just cuts out. try to start it back up and it cranks but nothing. it was like it was not getting fuel. so i took the back seat up and turned the key on to hear if the pump was coming on.... nothing......so i got to playing around and found if i run a jumper wire to the white and pink wire under the dash (fuel relay) the car will run fine......... but without it i get nothing but the engine turning over can i get some help please!!! i hate wiring.......


    '95 Ford Escort LX, GTX block .40 over, wiseco 9.1 pistons, gtr rods, gtx head, MS1, 550 inj. T3/T4 .57 Trim, DSM BOV, WALBRO 255 FP, civic half rad, MSP LSD, stage 3 kyclutch, ebay short shifter, mx-3 rear tie bar, AEM wideband....SHE IS ALIVE

    '88 Mazda Gtx AWD B6T engine Ported head, VJ-11, EL prototype chipped ECU, Blitz SBC-iD electronic boost controller, Full HKS exhaust, Centerforce dual friction clutch & more

    #2
    Can Anyone Help Please? I cant Find My Wiring Diagram So If Anyone Has That It Could Help. Thanks Alot


    '95 Ford Escort LX, GTX block .40 over, wiseco 9.1 pistons, gtr rods, gtx head, MS1, 550 inj. T3/T4 .57 Trim, DSM BOV, WALBRO 255 FP, civic half rad, MSP LSD, stage 3 kyclutch, ebay short shifter, mx-3 rear tie bar, AEM wideband....SHE IS ALIVE

    '88 Mazda Gtx AWD B6T engine Ported head, VJ-11, EL prototype chipped ECU, Blitz SBC-iD electronic boost controller, Full HKS exhaust, Centerforce dual friction clutch & more

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      #3
      I dont have access to my diagrams now but what about a bad fuel relay? Did you try the fuses?
      Block is almost done, cylinders are overboard for Weisco pistons, pro gram billet main caps have been line bored, and my chinese EDT rods have been machined to right specs. Everything has been balanced.

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        #4
        yea i put a new relay in nothing changes. im not getting 12v off of the white and pink wire on the relay or on the dist.


        '95 Ford Escort LX, GTX block .40 over, wiseco 9.1 pistons, gtr rods, gtx head, MS1, 550 inj. T3/T4 .57 Trim, DSM BOV, WALBRO 255 FP, civic half rad, MSP LSD, stage 3 kyclutch, ebay short shifter, mx-3 rear tie bar, AEM wideband....SHE IS ALIVE

        '88 Mazda Gtx AWD B6T engine Ported head, VJ-11, EL prototype chipped ECU, Blitz SBC-iD electronic boost controller, Full HKS exhaust, Centerforce dual friction clutch & more

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          #5
          just tested the white and red wire at the ecu and its not putting out the 12v. dose that help anyone to help me better?


          '95 Ford Escort LX, GTX block .40 over, wiseco 9.1 pistons, gtr rods, gtx head, MS1, 550 inj. T3/T4 .57 Trim, DSM BOV, WALBRO 255 FP, civic half rad, MSP LSD, stage 3 kyclutch, ebay short shifter, mx-3 rear tie bar, AEM wideband....SHE IS ALIVE

          '88 Mazda Gtx AWD B6T engine Ported head, VJ-11, EL prototype chipped ECU, Blitz SBC-iD electronic boost controller, Full HKS exhaust, Centerforce dual friction clutch & more

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            #6
            if i had some diagrams i would help you but i dont. check all your fuses and check the relays for your ecu, maybe you will find something. check continuity with a multimeter to see if you can fine any breaks in the wires
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              #7
              i know when my fuel pump went bad it did a similar thing... it blew a fuse under the hood. like the fuel inj fuse i believe. and if the fuse is blown then the whole circut is down meaning you wouldnt get a reading anywhere.

              check the fuse, if its blown replace, pull the fuel pump out and shake it... it should rattle... if not replace!
              There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.

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                #8
                this could be caused by a bad fuel pump switch within the VAF. try swapping a different vaf in there to see if it fixes the problem.
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                  #9
                  i will try that therieldeal i was thinking about that today along with just going to the MS.


                  '95 Ford Escort LX, GTX block .40 over, wiseco 9.1 pistons, gtr rods, gtx head, MS1, 550 inj. T3/T4 .57 Trim, DSM BOV, WALBRO 255 FP, civic half rad, MSP LSD, stage 3 kyclutch, ebay short shifter, mx-3 rear tie bar, AEM wideband....SHE IS ALIVE

                  '88 Mazda Gtx AWD B6T engine Ported head, VJ-11, EL prototype chipped ECU, Blitz SBC-iD electronic boost controller, Full HKS exhaust, Centerforce dual friction clutch & more

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                    #10
                    dose this help?


                    '95 Ford Escort LX, GTX block .40 over, wiseco 9.1 pistons, gtr rods, gtx head, MS1, 550 inj. T3/T4 .57 Trim, DSM BOV, WALBRO 255 FP, civic half rad, MSP LSD, stage 3 kyclutch, ebay short shifter, mx-3 rear tie bar, AEM wideband....SHE IS ALIVE

                    '88 Mazda Gtx AWD B6T engine Ported head, VJ-11, EL prototype chipped ECU, Blitz SBC-iD electronic boost controller, Full HKS exhaust, Centerforce dual friction clutch & more

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                      #11
                      well that didnt workhttp://www.autozone.com/images/cds/g...3d8013c8c9.gif


                      '95 Ford Escort LX, GTX block .40 over, wiseco 9.1 pistons, gtr rods, gtx head, MS1, 550 inj. T3/T4 .57 Trim, DSM BOV, WALBRO 255 FP, civic half rad, MSP LSD, stage 3 kyclutch, ebay short shifter, mx-3 rear tie bar, AEM wideband....SHE IS ALIVE

                      '88 Mazda Gtx AWD B6T engine Ported head, VJ-11, EL prototype chipped ECU, Blitz SBC-iD electronic boost controller, Full HKS exhaust, Centerforce dual friction clutch & more

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                        #12
                        allright, fuel pump is not where you should be looking. when a fuel pump is going bad you will know from initial startup once a car is started the fuel pump it self will always pump. im firestone mechanic, ASE. fuses bad maybe but not a fuel pump and with mine i dont hear the fuel pump ever turning on you want a better diag if whether the pump is working or not pull up the plate and pull a fuel line of top of tank see if actual fuel comes out not if your hear the pump or not. your problem could be so simple that you think it is complex. while checking your wiring check sensor in engine bay if TPS popped off or MAF things popped off these would cause immediate shut down of the car. not your fuel. Maybe if it was a cranck no start, but not while car is running. hope this helps in locating your problem. electrical is your best bet. could be as simple as a dead batt. too. sounds stuped but worth a look if your alt. has failed could cause loss of power and immediate shut down. good luck.

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                          #13
                          thanks for the info the car is running now with that wire in place as shown above. tried changing out the maf but didnt work. have not looked at the tps but will now.


                          '95 Ford Escort LX, GTX block .40 over, wiseco 9.1 pistons, gtr rods, gtx head, MS1, 550 inj. T3/T4 .57 Trim, DSM BOV, WALBRO 255 FP, civic half rad, MSP LSD, stage 3 kyclutch, ebay short shifter, mx-3 rear tie bar, AEM wideband....SHE IS ALIVE

                          '88 Mazda Gtx AWD B6T engine Ported head, VJ-11, EL prototype chipped ECU, Blitz SBC-iD electronic boost controller, Full HKS exhaust, Centerforce dual friction clutch & more

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by MX3_GTR View Post
                            Alright, fuel pump is not where you should be looking. When a fuel pump is going bad you will know from initial startup. Once a car is started, the fuel pump itself will always pump. I'm a firestone mechanic, ASE. Fuses bad? Maybe but not a fuel pump and with mine, I don't hear the fuel pump ever turning on. You want a better diag of whether the pump is working or not? Well then pull up the plate and pull a fuel line off the top of tank to see if actual fuel comes out and not if your hear the pump or not. Your problem could be so simple yet you think it is complex. While checking your wiring, check sensor in engine bay to see if TPS popped off or MAF things popped off. These would cause immediate shut down of the car and not your fuel. Maybe if it was a crank no start, but not while car is running could fuel could be the case. Hope this helps in locating your problem. Electrical is your best bet. Could be as simple as a dead batt. too. Sounds stupid but worth a look. If your alt. has failed, it could cause loss of power and immediate shut down. Good luck.
                            Your answer is one of the most sensible I've read recently. I wish your writing were as good. It is hard to comprehend what you're writing with run-on senteces, missing periods, missing commas, incorrect spelling, wrong words, etc, etc. I'm not a grammar pro but try re-reading the post before clicking the Submit Reply button. You will then notice all the mistakes and even have a hard time reading it back to yourself. The above is a, somewhat, corrected version. Please don't take this offensively. I'm not trying to disrespect you here. It was a perfect example of the kind of information we all need on the forum and we love having a guy with your knowledge here. Thanks and please keep helping us all.
                            Last edited by mannydingo; 11-30-2007, 06:55 PM.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by mannydingo View Post
                              I wish your writing were as good.
                              ORLY!? Maybe "I wish your writing WAS as good"?!

                              PS: I'm just messing with you. My grammer is complete and utter crap but I just found it funny that you were correcting someone and yet you messed that one up!
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