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    Doo Wop rally

    After too many days of too many hours of lastminute prep, we got the car barely ready to make the event. Day 1 was only 3 stages, 35 stage miles. The 2 crane creek stages were canceled, downed trees in the road. Tahola is one of my least favorite stages and we ran it twice in one direction and once in the other. My plan was just to try to survive the day so we could do the really fun roads on sunday. So off we go, finish stage 1 and find that we put the Protege out there as 1st overall. Stage 2 we were 2nd fastest, there was a PGT Soobie that came in with a miraculous time almost a minute faster than anyone else. He never approached times like that again, so this may have been a timing error. In any case we kept the car on the road and were doing well. The Hintz bros. car, always very fast, had a busted exhaust on stage 1 and DNS stage 2 so all we had to do was finish stage 3 quickly which we did so we finished 1st in Open for day 1 and 2nd overall. Day 2 opened with 2 runs on pavement. I don't have much experience driving fast on pavement on rally tires. We played it safe and were 3rd or 4th overall after those 2 runs, then straight into Pico Left. This is a very tight tricky nasty dangerous road that I loooove to run. We did pretty good, 2nd fastest behind Hintz. Back into service, then out for Pico Right. Coming into the first acute right, we lost a boost hose and had less than 5 psi the rest of the stage, dammit. Turns out I used a T bolt clamp that was just a little too big, and in the rush, I hadn't noticed. Lesson learned. Cuz the lack of power made me miss that acute right by a little and we put the RF corner into the shallow ditch for a bit and bent what we thought was the tie rod. We got through the stage but now down 20 sec on Hintz, still 3rd overall. My crew got the leak fixed, along with reaaligning the front end, fixing a fuel leak at the filter in the trunk, and putting a new set of hard compound Michelins on the car. I haven't run hard compound before. Wanted to try em out, but this was the wrong surface and wrong temperature for those tires. Brooklyn Tavern West was very very scary on those tires, so we went with my old set of Falkens for Smith Creek stage. That was more like it. Tons and tons of grip and we set off at a very brisk pace. Then we came around a medium right and the front of the car went totally beserk. Before I could stop the car we sorta rode an embankment and took a tire off the rim. Looking at the skidmarks we could clearly see the LF wheel was scrubbing rocks to the inside, trying to steer left and go down the road, but the RF track just drove stright to the embankment; the control arm that we hit on Pico had had enough and broke... kinda hard to steer a car when a wheel declares independence. DNF for Sunday but we went down swingin'; my codriver looked at our times, and since Hintz was out from his DNF Saturday, if we had stayed on track at the pace we had, we'd have gotten the overall freaking win. This was um disappointing news. Still, Saturdays' results were a personal best.
    Nothing expensive was broken. We have to unwrinkle that fender a little and replace a CV joint and reinforce a new pair of control arms. The car is going to spend some quality time with a couple REAL mechanics as opposed to myself, who will make the car reliable enough to be a real threat. Seems if we show pace to go for the overall, they think it's worth the effort. Olympus rally is mid april, we'll run it but *only* if the car is truly prepped, ahead of time...

    Ooooh, someone caught us on video! http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...52077502468579
    Last edited by jay; 02-25-2008, 11:51 AM.
    '90 AWD Protege, full GTR drivetrain swap, ~320 whp daily driver, RIP, and
    '90 AWD Protege, yet another GTR swap, Open class rallycar with a Toyota GT4 gearbox swap, thus crossing the line between hobby and mental illness. And a Brabus E55 K8, removing all doubt.
    http://www.wihandyman.com/forum/vbpi...?do=view&g=110
    http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2599486

    #2
    An almost astounding result!!!

    Great stuff.

    Regards,
    Joel
    1988 323 GTX - Heavily modified

    DJT Motorsports (Oak Park, MI) - like no other

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      #3
      Nice showing Jay!! Too bad about the broken arm, but we all know, that's rallying... (Who can be lucky enough to have a clean race and get to the end.) If you can, post a picture of the broken arm, I'm curious as to the failure point of the arm. My BG arms seem plenty strong on thier own. So far, I haven't seen a place to add material on the Escort's arms. Although, I was considering building a heim joint version of the arm in the future, mostly for more articulation.

      -Jon R.
      Last edited by jrally; 02-25-2008, 05:56 PM.

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        #4
        Great results, anxiously awaiting pics!

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          #5
          Bum rap of the broken arm, but amazing that you kept up with the Hintz! Its all in the driver and car, new stuff just isn't any faster
          No car! I soldz it. Now I have a truck. I like it, but apparently it has a hard time keeping up with a slightly modified 4WD protege with half the hp. Neat.

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            #6
            We had an older WRX (2.0L), '02 or '03, I think, beat out an Evo 9 and '07 STI (2.5L) open class car at our race this past weekend, "Seed 9". Forth place overall went to a Nissan Sentra with a very talented driver, George Duganis. Wish I had my Escort in top shape, looks like I missed a fun race. There were a couple other cars of interest entered, Chevy Camaro and a 2nd Gen MR2, not my choice for rally cars, but interesting.

            -Jon R.

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              #7
              My good pal John Lane kept his nose clean both days and got the overall in his Volvo 262...the 500hp Fire Breathing Monster. OK, Hintz and me and Buress mighta been faster on some stages, but he held it together for all of 'em, and set some really fast times on Sunday, beating me on brooklyn west... his first rally in 6 years, it was great to see him back.

              Pix'll hopefully start showing up soonish.


              Oh yah and for the record Hintz is almost always faster than me, I think I've been faster than him no more than 3 times.. and when Jardevall shows up he cleans everyone's clock. Just so ya won't think I'm all ego'd out or nuthin'...
              '90 AWD Protege, full GTR drivetrain swap, ~320 whp daily driver, RIP, and
              '90 AWD Protege, yet another GTR swap, Open class rallycar with a Toyota GT4 gearbox swap, thus crossing the line between hobby and mental illness. And a Brabus E55 K8, removing all doubt.
              http://www.wihandyman.com/forum/vbpi...?do=view&g=110
              http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2599486

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                #8
                Cool race story Jay, sounds like fun!
                2003 Protege5
                1990 Protege LX (sold)
                1990 Protege DX (sold)
                1992 626 (sold)

                Common abbreviations and jargon on Club Protege: http://www.wihandyman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34116

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                  #9
                  damn i want an awd pro that vid was sick but to short

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by smoke187 View Post
                    damn i want an awd pro that vid was sick but to short
                    Patience...one very well could be available in the next 6 weeks or so. I may end up parting with mine. I think it would make a much better rally project than a restoration project, so I'm thinking about letting it go and looking for something else. So far I can't bring myself to do it, but we'll see...and it will be cheap (<$1k).

                    Regards,
                    Joel
                    1988 323 GTX - Heavily modified

                    DJT Motorsports (Oak Park, MI) - like no other

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                      #11
                      Here's a pic of the busted arm, totally obvious where the weak spot is eh?
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                      '90 AWD Protege, full GTR drivetrain swap, ~320 whp daily driver, RIP, and
                      '90 AWD Protege, yet another GTR swap, Open class rallycar with a Toyota GT4 gearbox swap, thus crossing the line between hobby and mental illness. And a Brabus E55 K8, removing all doubt.
                      http://www.wihandyman.com/forum/vbpi...?do=view&g=110
                      http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2599486

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                        #12
                        Yeah, if I had to guess a head of time, that's what I would have said. If you have room for it, wrap the end of the arm with 3/4" wide x 1/8" strap steel, maybe 3-4" long, bent around the end, then welded solid to the arm. Glad to hear it didn't do too much extra damage to the car.

                        Question: 3/8" HDPE skid plate, not aluminum or steel?

                        -Jon R.
                        Last edited by jrally; 02-26-2008, 05:27 PM.

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                          #13
                          How is the car body and frame holding up?

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                            #14
                            Yep, plastic skidplate, and the new arm bolted right up to the car so it must not have bent anything important, whew!
                            '90 AWD Protege, full GTR drivetrain swap, ~320 whp daily driver, RIP, and
                            '90 AWD Protege, yet another GTR swap, Open class rallycar with a Toyota GT4 gearbox swap, thus crossing the line between hobby and mental illness. And a Brabus E55 K8, removing all doubt.
                            http://www.wihandyman.com/forum/vbpi...?do=view&g=110
                            http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2599486

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                              #15
                              that's a money shot. Does the plastic just protect the underside against flying rocks, more than actually landing the body on a rock? I've been torn between the weight savings of plastic skids vs. the strength of metal.
                              No car! I soldz it. Now I have a truck. I like it, but apparently it has a hard time keeping up with a slightly modified 4WD protege with half the hp. Neat.

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