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    Need some help with axels sohc F-series swapped for G-series

    Okay I have an MX-3 with the b6 sohc engine I just bought it on 4/10/08 anyway the tranny girnded and 1st and 2nd were hard to shift to sometimes, then 5th went out and came back and then went again then it worked perfect and then out of no where 2nd, 4th and reverse could not be shifted into at all hard as hell to try and pull back the shifter, but 1st, 3rd and 5th worked. ANyway also had a 90 protege lx in my back yard that needed a clutch badly.

    So I pulled the f-series from my mx-3 and pulled the g-series tranny from the protege along with axels, flywheel and the top tranny mount. Anyway now the g-series is bolted up to my b6 sohc in my mx-3.

    I have the passenger side driveaxel(by the way these are the Protege axels) installed into the tranny and through the hub I tightened it down and it's not near as tight as it should be. Secondly the driver side axel while installed into the tranny will not even stick out of the hub enough to thread the big lock nut on. Please help me I needed this car to go back into Daily driver duty yesterday... uhh ..ASAP!

    Thanks for replies in advance
    Last edited by NKYBoostfiend; 05-09-2008, 08:29 PM. Reason: forgot something
    1992 MX-3 1.6L SOHC since 4/10/08
    1987 Supra Turbo 5spd. 57trim CT-26 15PSI 305rwhp 315rwtq
    Also have 1990 Protege LX black exterior, gray/black interior complete car other than I have removed the tranny for my mx-3 and will be hanging on to the low mileage BP motor unless a decent offer came along. Anyway I will part anything esle from car out just PM me

    #2
    bump... anyone?
    1992 MX-3 1.6L SOHC since 4/10/08
    1987 Supra Turbo 5spd. 57trim CT-26 15PSI 305rwhp 315rwtq
    Also have 1990 Protege LX black exterior, gray/black interior complete car other than I have removed the tranny for my mx-3 and will be hanging on to the low mileage BP motor unless a decent offer came along. Anyway I will part anything esle from car out just PM me

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      #3
      sorry i cant tell u how to fix it but i can tell u why its like that. An mx-3 even though its almost the same as a protege/EGT has a few minor differences in the suspension. One being that the front control arms are about 5mm longer(they stick out farther) and thats y your protege axles on the mx3 are short. putting the mx3 control arms, sway bar is an upgrade for EGT/proteges because of the wider trac. try finding the axles from a v6 mx3 i believe they came stock with the g-series tranny, i just dont know if the half shaft will bolt up the same
      "See that car, in the 80's that car was deadly." Random man to his son while passing the GTX in a parking lot

      Originally posted by neuspeedescort
      the proper spelling would be "Launchabilitiness" i do believe.
      -88' Mazda 323 GTX, 1.8t, Modified Magazine May 2012
      -88' Mazda 323 GTX, caged and ready for dirt
      -93' Mazda Miata, half caged
      -09' Mercedes C63 AMG
      -87' Toyota Land Cruiser, 33's with slight lift, safari style!

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        #4
        HMmmm I have no idea what to do? Do you think I could have some one modify them to fit? Like a shop that can weld? I mean one is just a bit to long and other a bit to short.

        The v6 axels are a thought, Do you know of any online info/content saying the v6 uses the g-series tranny and 24mm spline axels?
        1992 MX-3 1.6L SOHC since 4/10/08
        1987 Supra Turbo 5spd. 57trim CT-26 15PSI 305rwhp 315rwtq
        Also have 1990 Protege LX black exterior, gray/black interior complete car other than I have removed the tranny for my mx-3 and will be hanging on to the low mileage BP motor unless a decent offer came along. Anyway I will part anything esle from car out just PM me

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          #5
          Ok I've been doing more and more research the v6 does use the same g-series gearbox that I have installed. However I'm sure the size of the v6 is going to differ quite a bit from the sohc 4 cyl. Now If I were to swap the BP engine in with the g-series the protege axels would work then correct? If so then it would be the size of the sohc b6 keeping the axels from working right?
          1992 MX-3 1.6L SOHC since 4/10/08
          1987 Supra Turbo 5spd. 57trim CT-26 15PSI 305rwhp 315rwtq
          Also have 1990 Protege LX black exterior, gray/black interior complete car other than I have removed the tranny for my mx-3 and will be hanging on to the low mileage BP motor unless a decent offer came along. Anyway I will part anything esle from car out just PM me

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            #6
            One to short and one too long, Im not sure but try switching them around. Jaydog on here has been running the G series in his Mx for years, and is using the pro axles. If that doesnt work look into the ZX2 axles, do some searching I remember some one doing that too.
            Mx3 RS,BP-turbo
            http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2628805

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              #7
              Thanks for the help bro, I'll see what I can figure out. BTW awesome job on your mx-3 I checked out your cardomain last night. I'm going to turbo a BP later and swap it also.
              Last edited by NKYBoostfiend; 05-10-2008, 12:32 PM. Reason: forgot something
              1992 MX-3 1.6L SOHC since 4/10/08
              1987 Supra Turbo 5spd. 57trim CT-26 15PSI 305rwhp 315rwtq
              Also have 1990 Protege LX black exterior, gray/black interior complete car other than I have removed the tranny for my mx-3 and will be hanging on to the low mileage BP motor unless a decent offer came along. Anyway I will part anything esle from car out just PM me

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                #8
                cant switch them, drivers side axle has a male end into the tranny, pass. side has a female end into the halfshaft. and protege axles will always be to short cause you have a wider front end on your mx-3 them what a protege has. i was thinking about it and i am 99% sure the v6 mx3 axles would work for u. both models v6 and 4 cyl. have the tranny mounted in the same spot in the car so if u use a mx3 v6 tranny just use the mx3 v6 axles
                "See that car, in the 80's that car was deadly." Random man to his son while passing the GTX in a parking lot

                Originally posted by neuspeedescort
                the proper spelling would be "Launchabilitiness" i do believe.
                -88' Mazda 323 GTX, 1.8t, Modified Magazine May 2012
                -88' Mazda 323 GTX, caged and ready for dirt
                -93' Mazda Miata, half caged
                -09' Mercedes C63 AMG
                -87' Toyota Land Cruiser, 33's with slight lift, safari style!

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                  #9
                  buy some axles from mazda and quit being a cheap ass
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                    #10
                    I already bought the axels *******. $222 and will compare them with my stock mx-3 axels to see if they work, I can think about buying them and hold off all I want, nobody has confirmed that they will work so mind your business. I asked all info requested the best I could and politely so don't in being a **** without any info or anything useful period. Be respectful, and mature.

                    Anyway all I bought the axels for the 1.8 v6 mx-3 and will compare them and see whats what and will report back. Thanks everyone for the help/assistance.
                    1992 MX-3 1.6L SOHC since 4/10/08
                    1987 Supra Turbo 5spd. 57trim CT-26 15PSI 305rwhp 315rwtq
                    Also have 1990 Protege LX black exterior, gray/black interior complete car other than I have removed the tranny for my mx-3 and will be hanging on to the low mileage BP motor unless a decent offer came along. Anyway I will part anything esle from car out just PM me

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by NKYBoostfiend View Post
                      I already bought the axels *******. $222 and will compare them with my stock mx-3 axels to see if they work, I can think about buying them and hold off all I want, nobody has confirmed that they will work so mind your business. I asked all info requested the best I could and politely so don't in being a **** without any info or anything useful period. Be respectful, and mature.

                      Anyway all I bought the axels for the 1.8 v6 mx-3 and will compare them and see whats what and will report back. Thanks everyone for the help/assistance.
                      The mx-3's v-6 axles have a different spline count than the Protege's. 28 vs. 26. You need to be aware that these axles will not fit inside the 4cyl's differential side gears.

                      The proteges axles will fit fine with a BP engine and G series trans in an Mx-3. There should be no issues with length so long as the axles are the correct protege/escort/etc. axles.

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                        #12
                        Damn I wish I would have realized the difficulty trying to get the axels working before I started this. If I could find an F-series gearbox local I would pick one up and just put it in and throw the G-series and new clutch for it back in the protege and have another two working vehicles.
                        1992 MX-3 1.6L SOHC since 4/10/08
                        1987 Supra Turbo 5spd. 57trim CT-26 15PSI 305rwhp 315rwtq
                        Also have 1990 Protege LX black exterior, gray/black interior complete car other than I have removed the tranny for my mx-3 and will be hanging on to the low mileage BP motor unless a decent offer came along. Anyway I will part anything esle from car out just PM me

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                          #13
                          Well here is what I did. I loosened all the engine/transmission mounts and using a large prybar and jack w/ block of wood kind of repositioned the engine/trans a little bit and now have both axels in the tranny and tightened at the hub end, IDK how they will work yet. (Quick ? WHen you spin one side by hand the other side should not spin on stock open diff correct?) Hope they don't leak at the diff end on the driver's side it looks like it needs to go in a bit more but not sure I put a new seal on that side (I bought one for the other side to but it was fine so I put it back in) the new seals dont have the little outer overhang lip thing so that may be why it looks like it's not completely in the seal. Oh BTW lol I'm talking about with the protege axels. I dont have any fluid for the tranny here and everything is closed Sunday night so have to find out how it works tomorrow after I go to the dentist. Plust my slave cylinder is leaking around the boot so I'm going to replace it first too. Is their a difference between the protege lx slave cyl and the mx-3 rs slave cyl?

                          Thanks for everyone's help and advice. and Cross your fingers for me =D
                          1992 MX-3 1.6L SOHC since 4/10/08
                          1987 Supra Turbo 5spd. 57trim CT-26 15PSI 305rwhp 315rwtq
                          Also have 1990 Protege LX black exterior, gray/black interior complete car other than I have removed the tranny for my mx-3 and will be hanging on to the low mileage BP motor unless a decent offer came along. Anyway I will part anything esle from car out just PM me

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                            #14
                            Slaves are different from g to f
                            Mx3 RS,BP-turbo
                            http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2628805

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                              #15
                              Well guess I need the one from my protege, I think the rod is to short on the f-series one.
                              1992 MX-3 1.6L SOHC since 4/10/08
                              1987 Supra Turbo 5spd. 57trim CT-26 15PSI 305rwhp 315rwtq
                              Also have 1990 Protege LX black exterior, gray/black interior complete car other than I have removed the tranny for my mx-3 and will be hanging on to the low mileage BP motor unless a decent offer came along. Anyway I will part anything esle from car out just PM me

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