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    How a standalone SHOULDN'T be built

    I know that some people on here have had trouble with megasquirts - car not starting, intermittent reliability, etc. I am making a post here to illustrate how not to put together a megasquirt. Some common sense and best automotive practices should be used when putting together the ECU. You will see below some big no-nos. These include poor solder joints/cold solder joints, wires that are not tidy and are just left floating in the case, burnt insulation, and extra components that are attached to the case with just silicone (instead of a proper fastener).

    I work in the automotive industry, specifically control systems and have had a lot of exposure to failures due to parts not being built to spec. The MS is by no means heavy duty but building one properly will go a long way to a reliable setup.

    The ECU below was sent to me to fix, so make sure that when you put an ECU together or have someone put it together for you, they place components properly on the board, solder well, and make sure parts are not just moving around in the case. Vibration is a real problem, and having a tidy design not only avoids problems but really helps with troubleshooting when there is a problem.
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    #2
    wow thats a hell of a solder job, id have been scared to plug it in....
    92 protege lx-

    94 protege lx-

    95 escort gt-ms2e/ms2extra pre3.3alpha5 gslender v2.8-e85-vj23@12lbs----dead--

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      #3
      LOL, oh boy...
      -Turbo Mx-3

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        #4
        oh thats not yours is it?
        92 protege lx-

        94 protege lx-

        95 escort gt-ms2e/ms2extra pre3.3alpha5 gslender v2.8-e85-vj23@12lbs----dead--

        are you a thinker, or a believer?

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          #5
          dear god i think my daughter can solder better than that and she is 8
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            #6
            just seeing that makes me that much more confident in me being able to build one, i can already repair alot of electronics...lol...
            92 protege lx-

            94 protege lx-

            95 escort gt-ms2e/ms2extra pre3.3alpha5 gslender v2.8-e85-vj23@12lbs----dead--

            are you a thinker, or a believer?

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              #7
              Were you able to salvage it? It looks pretty jacked up.
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                #8
                And that's the reason I don't want to attempt building 1 myself. My luck it would look likt that. Lol. Good luck repairing it Alex
                1993 Protege LX-Midnight's shadow SOLD
                1996 Honda CBR600-Wrecked. Damn Honda crippled me
                2002 mazda MPV-family truckster SOLD
                2010 VW routon

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                .....they totally underestimated the number of gearheads such as myself that have families but refuse to grow the hell up and stop playing with cars, or that otherwise see the utility of having 4 doors. Obviously I ain't alone, as there are a helluva lotta sti and evo here. Bueler? Beuler? Mazda? Mazda?

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                  #9
                  I don't see anything wrong with that, it looks great!

                  ... but I wonder why it doesn't work?! Hmmm...

                  Where does one start to find out where the fault is?... that's if there is one short circuits or many.

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                    #10
                    Yes, I believe that to be mine.
                    No i didnt build that myself i had someone build it for me.
                    Probably would have been better off building it myself by the looks of it.
                    -Turbo Mx-3

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by nos92mx3 View Post
                      Yes, I believe that to be mine.
                      No i didnt build that myself i had someone build it for me.
                      Probably would have been better off building it myself by the looks of it.
                      I'm so sorry, hope you didn't pay too much for it... guess it doesn't come with any kinda warranty from the guy you bought it from. Probably covered his ass by putting "as is" on the description... you can make a lot of money that way for something that doesn't work.

                      JoN - Automotive Machinist Journeyman/Refrigeration Mechanic Journeyman
                      Member of MX-3.com
                      1996 Mazda MX-3 RS - Creek Blue Mica
                      1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE - Raspberry... RIP


                      Racing BP (Project "Blue" Marlin)... Twin Scroll GT3071R, breaking 30psi at the moment!

                      "Do it ONCE, do it RIGHT!"

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                        #12
                        thats a train wreck..

                        good luck alex
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                        *Junked* KLZE powered 323 on Megasquirt 1
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                          #13
                          I bought it in late 07 early 08 and for the life of me couldnt get it to work, so i set it aside and went with the bp26/safc2 setup for temporary. A few weeks ago i figured i might as well use this, so i sent it to Lex to make sure everything was good and this is what i get.

                          Its unfortunate that it was from one of our own.

                          Originally posted by Shades View Post


                          I'm so sorry, hope you didn't pay too much for it... guess it doesn't come with any kinda warranty from the guy you bought it from. Probably covered his ass by putting "as is" on the description... you can make a lot of money that way for something that doesn't work.
                          -Turbo Mx-3

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                            #14
                            oh dear, who sold you this thing anyway?
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                              #15
                              You got this 'thing' from Jacob (link)???

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