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McCorkle
01-06-2004, 06:48 PM
Alright in the process of redoing the system so I am getting a new headunit. Now I have it narrowed down to two choices. What I want to know is which one you would get. Based on quality and all that good stuff. They both come out to be the same price as well.

McCorkle
01-06-2004, 06:52 PM
Pioneer
http://www.mazdamp3.com/members/Protege2K/audio%20/h130dehp850.jpg

Alpine
http://www.mazdamp3.com/members/Protege2K/audio%20/h500cda9815-f.jpg

Intruder
01-06-2004, 08:42 PM
The Pioneer looks SWEET, but I voted for the Alpine 9815 cuz that's what I got. :biggrin: That's my 3rd Alpine HU and I've never had a problem. What I find useful in the 9815 are the built in crossover and EQ... (my 9807 didn't have them). And I don't know about the Pioneer but my HU has XM radio support. I've been thinking of getting an XM receiver for a while...

McCorkle
01-06-2004, 08:49 PM
Yeah I too want XM radio, but I never liked the look of the Delphi units. Is the sound quality excellent in the 9815? Because that is very important to me. And also are you running subs with it? Because I was wondering how well the unit would allow you to tune in the sound of the subs.

mixmaster_matt
01-06-2004, 09:03 PM
I love my pioneer, great tuning to the subs, and that is my choice. Not the best AM reception, but I never listen to that so it doesn't matter. And now that I am in FL I don't listen to any radio b/c all the stations are terrible.....

asylum24
01-07-2004, 12:36 AM
proto: with the alpine you dont need the delphi thing. you buy a lil box that sits under your seat which is the brain and it plugs into the AI-net cable input on the back of the HU and then you choose XM as your source and the HU controls everything.

the delphi thing is for like a universal app.

McCorkle
01-07-2004, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by asylum24
proto: with the alpine you dont need the delphi thing. you buy a lil box that sits under your seat which is the brain and it plugs into the AI-net cable input on the back of the HU and then you choose XM as your source and the HU controls everything.

the delphi thing is for like a universal app.

Yeah I know, that is why I made sure the future hu would be compatible. That is why I never hooked up the Delphi unit in my car, because it was bulky.

asylum24
01-07-2004, 01:01 AM
oh ok, just the way you worded it a few posts earlier made me think that you were gonna get the pioneer cuz you wouldnt have to have the delphi thing.... so i was tellin you wouldnt with the alpine either.... my bad though.. weeeee

isnt pioneer sirious? or is that just kenwood/jenson

McCorkle
01-07-2004, 01:02 AM
Yeah Kenwood/Jensen also Clarion.

McCorkle
01-07-2004, 12:23 PM
Well I ordered the Alpine CDA-9815 today. Got it from ebay for $365 shipped, not too bad of a deal. It should be here in about a week or so, but I am not going to install it for awhile. I am just going to wait til I get the rest of the system setup that way I can run it to the Optima battery that is going to be placed in the trunk.

JProtege
01-07-2004, 12:30 PM
good choice on the alpine, though the pioneer wouldnt have been bad either. Though, depending on how long you are going to wait to install . . . you might as well have not bought it until then, cause you may have been able to save a few bucks by doing so.

McCorkle
01-07-2004, 12:33 PM
Well it will probably be about a month or two. Not too long. I am just trying to piece it together gradually so it isn't such a big hit to the wallet at once.

asylum24
01-07-2004, 03:50 PM
you wont be disappointed I promise you that.... after you figure out all the bells and whistles of course

McCorkle
01-07-2004, 03:54 PM
Well I look forward to it. I am one of those people that loves to see what each feature can do. I remember back when I got my JVC Digifine unit I spent about an hour and a half in the garage fine tuning every little aspect of the sound.

JProtege
01-08-2004, 02:04 AM
lol im just like u proto, even with my humble kenwood. And even though i've had mine for a while now, i still tinker with it at least once every few days.

asylum24
01-08-2004, 03:05 AM
if you spent that long with that then take a **** before you go out and play with it :)... took me that long to do it and I read the manual on the net about it before it got to my house lol

Intruder
01-08-2004, 02:58 PM
you wont be disappointed I promise you that.... after you figure out all the bells and whistles of course

I second that!

Eariler you asked about the subs... Yeah, I have a eD e12k.44 in the ported box they have on their site. Running it is a Tsunami dB1100D amp. Subwoofer control is awesome. You will find the built in crossover of the 9815 very useful. Also, controlling the sub is easy - just press on the volume knob once and rotate it to adjust the SUB-W volume.

asylum24
01-08-2004, 03:12 PM
and hit next and prev to change it from subw to subw -rev no idea wtf does but hey you can do it though!

Intruder
01-08-2004, 03:16 PM
lol, I thought you've read the manual? anyway, I don't know what it does either. :)

Subghetto
01-08-2004, 03:42 PM
Get alpine it's the ****, my cousin has an alpine headunit and it really bumps.

McCorkle
01-08-2004, 03:46 PM
Get alpine it's the ****, my cousin has an alpine headunit and it really bumps.
It's on its way. :)

asylum24
01-08-2004, 06:06 PM
since when do the HU make the car bump?

asylum24
01-08-2004, 06:08 PM
i did read it... but didnt understand it.... i think it has to do with which way the sub is facing... twards the front or towards the back..... but what if the sub is mounted on the outside of the box... what do you do then.... AHHH lol ok i dont know... it sounds the same to me when i hcange it so oh well.

McCorkle
01-08-2004, 06:20 PM
I noticed that Alpine recommends that you hook the hu directly up to the battery. So I figure since I am going to need another battery (Optima yellow top) to run the dual amps, that I would just hook the hu to the Optima.

asylum24
01-08-2004, 06:30 PM
iono about hat.. i have mine hooked up like normal and I asked the people at the shops about it and they didnt know why alpine wanted people to do it either....they tried doing it once in car and didnt find any advantages to doing do it. so I dont know what the deal is....

Why are you getting a 2nd battery? I mean it wont hurt but why? just put the optima in the front and get some terminals for it.

McCorkle
01-08-2004, 06:56 PM
Well I really don't want to run 2 amps and a head unit off of one battery. I think it could pull too much power and give me some problems.

asylum24
01-08-2004, 06:59 PM
iono whatever floats your boat.....

BTW proto, do you have neons onthe bottom of your car? I swaer I saw your car the other day in some pics on the net and they guy had blue neons on underneath..... the only thing I wasnt for sure on were if the rims matched and couldnt tell if the corner lights were black or not.... i was just surfin the net and saw it.... if you dont, I think white neons would look pretty cool just to kinda break up the blue stuff and accent the silver

McCorkle
01-08-2004, 07:38 PM
Nope no neons. The only color I would go with is white. It has kind of been in the back of my mind for awhile. I don't know mabye in the summer time.

blue LEDz
01-08-2004, 08:04 PM
asylum24, the subw and subw -rev is probably the same as the 180 degree phase shift on some amps. and yeah, it for if your subs are inversly mounted with the magnet out. it'll keep it in phase with the rest of your speakers;)

Proto2k, you only need to hook the alpine up the the batter with 10 guage wire if you are running your speakers off of it. other than that, the stock wiring is more than adequate. and there is no need for a second battery unless you plan on running your system for hours on end with the car off. if you are planning on doing that, you will need a battery isolator. but trust me, i've run as much as 2,900 watt rms from a single red top without any problems;) if you do decide to go with 2 batteries, get something like this:
http://www.sounddomain.com/sku/LITSSR2002

McCorkle
01-08-2004, 08:10 PM
Well that is definately some good news. Saves me some money.

Intruder
01-08-2004, 08:15 PM
Well that is definately some good news. Saves me some money.
that's what I was gonna tell you, but he posted a relpy before I was finished reading the posts after... :)

just to add my 2 cents - a local car-audio shop advised me against connecting the HU directly to the battery. they even said it's dangerous. I was more inclined to believinng Alpine, but.... oh well. :) I went there to buy some cable for the power wire that goes from the HU to the battery terminal, and they asked me what I need the wire for, so I explained, I showed them the yellow sticker that was attached to the power wire of the HU and they said - ignore it.

McCorkle
01-09-2004, 10:07 PM
Just got done checking out the I Personalize system by Alpine. For you guys who have used it, you are smarter than me because all that thing did was thouroughly confuse me.

asylum24
01-10-2004, 01:20 AM
it will set convert your measurements to the HU stuff for your Xover, time correction, and EQ...

just take a tape measure to your car and measure hte length from your ears to the speakers... write it down and thats the info for the T corr. do all of it on the site and then for your model you can save it to your comp and burn a cd and it and put it in the deck and it wil program it for you... the 13 you have to do it manually... one thing though.. the T.Corr sounded off to me so i upped and lowered the left front and right rear .1 ms... as for the subs set it to 9.5s if it lets you.... the personalize thing says diff but the controller for my amp said 9.5 if its behind a seat in the trunk

McCorkle
01-10-2004, 01:34 AM
Does it really make that great of a difference then if I was to just play with the eq on the hu.

asylum24
01-10-2004, 01:43 AM
no its the same thing... but if you have the cd you just pop it in and it does it all for you... its great for things like if you had to reset the unit and you can just stick it in and it does it in 5 secs and you dont have to mess with everything for 5 minutes...

McCorkle
01-10-2004, 01:44 AM
Okay I can see how that would be nice. I am always disconnecting the battery for whatever reason and my JVC unit always deletes my settings. Pisses me off.

asylum24
01-10-2004, 02:00 AM
one of the 2 things that I wish the 13 had... the other thing is I cant save my Tcorr settings.... like I have one memory slot and thats it....

McCorkle
01-19-2004, 08:34 PM
It arrived today. I'll probably hook it up in about a week or so when the wiring for the system arrives.

http://www.mazdamp3.com/members/Protege2K/New%20Hu/img_0049[1].jpg

Intruder
01-19-2004, 08:48 PM
It arrived today. I'll probably hook it up in about a week or so when the wiring for the system arrives.

http://www.mazdamp3.com/members/Protege2K/New%20Hu/img_0049[1].jpg

it's nice, isn't it? ;)

McCorkle
01-19-2004, 09:30 PM
it's nice, isn't it? ;)
Yeah, now I can't wait to hear how it sounds. :)

asylum24
01-19-2004, 11:17 PM
you wont be let down :) doesnt it piss you off that if you had waited like a week longer you coulda bought a brand new model ;)

Intruder
01-19-2004, 11:19 PM
doesnt it piss you off that if you had waited like a week longer you coulda bought a brand new model ;)

hah it pisses ME off ;) but I'm gonna sell mine and buy one of the new ones WHEN they come out. so far the only model that's for sale is the 9827 @ crutchfield.

asylum24
01-19-2004, 11:27 PM
yea well i would go buy one now and sell the other later just cuz thats me... but they are blue the lil douches..

Intruder
01-20-2004, 01:08 AM
well, yeah. that's what I meant. I gotta have music in my car... are you crazy? :) I can't wait to see the 9835 man...

asylum24
01-20-2004, 01:38 AM
i can... its silver and blue.

McCorkle
01-20-2004, 01:41 AM
you wont be let down :) doesnt it piss you off that if you had waited like a week longer you coulda bought a brand new model ;)
No because I figure it would be awhile before they start popping up on ebay and there is no way I am going to pay $500 for a hu, $340 was pushing it for me.

asylum24
01-20-2004, 01:58 AM
lol i paid 450 for the 13 cuz it was like 2 weeks old when i bought it... i couldnt wait any longer

Intruder
01-20-2004, 02:40 AM
asylum, I know it's gonna be silver and blue, but I wanna see it. now don't be so rude man, I'm sorry they didn't make green ones.

on the other hand, I'm pretty sure that once they hit stores they will hit ebay as well and prices will be very similar to what's already out there. here's an example - look at the 9827 (it's one of the 2004 models - the first one to hit the stores).

Alpine.com MSRP --> $260
Crutchfield.com --> $259.99
eBay.com --> $199

Now, I believe that this *27 thing is the replacement for the 9807 which I am selling on ebay right now and looks like it's going to sell for more than $180 despite the fact that it is used. So, there you have it... I bet prices aren't going to be higher than the current ones.

asylum24
01-20-2004, 10:21 AM
im not mad at you im mad at alpine.. sry if I sound rude... just ticks me off taht they are moving to blue and leaving it to just blue..... soo tired of blue ****... thats all you ever see... blue neons, lights, gauges, interiors, exteriors, wheels even! just sick of blue!

McCorkle
01-20-2004, 10:27 AM
im not mad at you im mad at alpine.. sry if I sound rude... just ticks me off taht they are moving to blue and leaving it to just blue..... soo tired of blue ****... thats all you ever see... blue neons, lights, gauges, interiors, exteriors, wheels even! just sick of blue!
This coming from a guy with a blue car. :boxing:

asylum24
01-20-2004, 10:30 AM
my car aint blue yo! its blueberry (purple day navy blue at night[not laser blue])

McCorkle
01-20-2004, 10:31 AM
blue is blue

asylum24
01-20-2004, 10:34 AM
http://www.asylum24.net/car/kitted/new.JPG does that look blue to you? im seein purple-y yo

McCorkle
01-20-2004, 10:36 AM
If my car was purple I would probably try to save face and call it blue. Just like if you had a pink car you would probably try to pass it off as red.

asylum24
01-20-2004, 10:41 AM
i dont car if its purple in the day.... im never with my car in the day besides on the way to school/work... at night its navy blue so tahts fine with me.... besides how many purple cars do you see at car shows compared to black/blue/silver cars........not really htat many which makes it more original...... just think if everyone had F&F orange.... and one person had a silver car.... we would all make fun of them cuz he was different and then here comes the award to him ;) thats teh way I look at it anyway...

blue LEDz
01-20-2004, 11:59 AM
blue is blue


no i'm not, i'm as white at they come :bash:


enough bickering you 2 :rolleyes: i don't want to have to regulate, so don't make me;)

Intruder
01-20-2004, 12:03 PM
no i'm not, i'm as white at they come :bash:


haha, that's hilarious :biggrin:

asylum24
01-20-2004, 01:42 PM
you have gas?

Intruder
01-20-2004, 01:46 PM
you have gas?

who? me? why?

asylum24
01-20-2004, 01:52 PM
i don't want to have to regulate

blue LEDz
01-20-2004, 02:41 PM
you have gas?


care to explain that one? :dunce:

asylum24
01-20-2004, 03:15 PM
no i'm not, i'm as white at they come :bash:


enough bickering you 2 :rolleyes: i don't want to have to regulate, so don't make me;)

blue LEDz
01-20-2004, 05:36 PM
once again, WTF does gas have to do with regulating? :bash:

asylum24
01-20-2004, 11:02 PM
iono but it seems to go together ;)

Intruder
01-20-2004, 11:03 PM
gas regulator... hmmm... :)

Intruder
01-22-2004, 01:13 PM
hey asylum, I just read this on alpine's website:

In a design breakthrough, iPersonalize enables drivers to select from 512 color options for the LED illumination, allowing them to match their head unit lighting to the dash or even to their mood.

take note of the "color options for the LED illumination". the display is LCD, so if they're not making a mistake here by interchanging the terms, I'm pretty sure you'll be able to change the color of the buttons. :)

this is from a press release.
here's the link if you wanna read more: link (http://www.alpine-usa.com/html/press/010804_2004hu.html)

Intruder
01-22-2004, 01:17 PM
oh yeah, I found this info about the LEDs while looking for a release date for the new HUs. I didn't find one, but I got an email from Crutchfield and they will have the 9835 in stock on the 3rd of March.

Hello Martin,

Thanks for your e-mail, and for shopping the Crutchfield web site.

In answer to your question about the Alpine CDA-9835, I have good news and bad news. The bad news is that, unfortunately, it's out of stock right now, and we are not expecting it in stock until the 3rd of March. I'm sorry I don't have better news for you there... blah, blah, blah...

asylum24
01-22-2004, 02:22 PM
cool thanks man.