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    whats a good spring combo for a wagon

    for 5 years now ive been running 100 dollar boomz ebay coilovers and there a little rough and i now just want a little bit smoother or a ride but still the firmness of a race car but i cant find anyone who sells good lowering springs for the wagon i just tryed a set that was supposed to work on a wagon but everytime i hit the gas the rear end just dumps and the front raises up like crazy i have 4 year old totiko s/r struts they still come back up after u push them down but i just cant find anything what do u guys sugest i thing sgt russco has a done up wagon i know i spellt his name wrong sorry but any one got ideas?

    #2
    why dont you just replace the 2.5" coil springs out with something longer/softer? QA1 has custom lengths/rates for around $50.

    This way you can get the desired rate, typically people for Ground Controls get 300/200 for hatchback/sedan BGs.

    So a wagon...i'd go 300/250 and just run the proper struts obviously.

    JACK.
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      #3
      Get the megan racings for 97-03 ZX2,$145 on ebay shipped... they felt AWESOME b4 my rear S/Rs blew lol even bumpy road or taken twisties alot faster than u normally would these keep my car planted, but still a smooth/sporty ride without 0 bounce 2" front, 1.75" rear Spring rates are 300F & 250R. Everyone that drove my car after they went in were amazed with the ride

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        #4
        I've been running the ZX2 S/R Tokico struts, with the Eibach Sportline (stiffer than the Pro-Line) springs to match.

        I've been SUPER bad about actually putting any coilovers on the wagon, as there are a bunch of things I want to do all at once, and don't want to take everything apart several times.

        Since you've already got coilovers, I'd just go with a different length and rate. +1 on QA1, they make top-quality springs. 300F/250R is a good rate. Get some longer springs, say two inches longer than your current ones, so you can keep the travel, and just run the lower spring perches further down the threads.

        Here's a view of it just sitting still.


        Here's me cornering at about 90, on the loaded side:


        Here's a buddy with STOCK springs on his sedan, with me driving his car.


        Sorry for the small pics, that's all I've got online for the wagon right now.

        --sarge
        Last edited by SgtRauksauff; 06-17-2009, 11:40 AM.

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          #5
          yay good suggestions made by meeee haha
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            #6
            Originally posted by SgtRauksauff View Post
            Get some longer springs, say two inches longer than your current ones, so you can keep the travel, and just run the lower spring perches further down the threads.

            What would be the advantage of longer springs unless you were specifically trying to raise the car? After you lower the spring perch to compensate for putting the longer springs in you would still be at the same height/travel as when you started.
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              #7
              but then u can go lower on the coilover perch to achieve the rideheight you want, but have more suspension travel

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                #8
                exactly ^^ my coilover sleeve setup at the max height will have the car 1" lower compared to stock...therefore the lowest setting would be 3" so you've got some height to play with!
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                  #9
                  more suspension travel FTW. If you've got only a super-short stroke available, your damper won't operate as effectively, and it will upset the balance of the car if you hit the bumpstops or whatnot.

                  Stock springs are like 10 inches or so, rally springs are commonly 14, and the cars sit close to the same height at times. Extra travel is great when hitting bumps and stuff in rally. That aside, with more travel, you can turn harder on asphalt and still keep your wheels planted without starting to slide.

                  --sarge

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                    #10
                    so where do i get differnt springs for coilovers and is it sportline what kinda prices are we talkin can u guys give me some prices and or links ? please

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                      #11


                      You'd want at least 2" taller than your ebay coil springs...maybe even longer. My megan racing coilover sleeve kit I have collecting dust has:

                      450lbs front @ 6" tall
                      350lbs rear @ 7" tall

                      So all depending if you're going to cut your spring perches, i'd run 2" taller with your perches, or 3" taller with your spring perches cut.

                      P.S. the springs are $44ea so $175-180 for all 4 isn't to bad considering you'll have your desired spring rate AND height adjustability still.

                      JACK.
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                        #12
                        also you'll get some spring noise, but i'm sure you probably already do haha, its from the springs being so short, to eliminate that you would need helper springs...which cost i think $22ea...which adds up x 4. They keep everything compressed when the suspension is at full travel.
                        -Jack

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