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    I need some turbo help

    I will make a long story short. I have been through 4 turbos since I have owned my 323. The last and current turbo was a freshly rebuilt hybrid that has less than 1000 miles on it. I drive my car very easy but I still press on it once in a while but its not an everyday thing. The turbo is a vj14 back with a vj11 front and it is on wastegate regulated pressure no bleed or controller. With that said. I am trying to find another turbo that will fit the stock manifold. Reason why I want to stay stock manifold is because I lost my job in january and I am going back to school. I love my 323 and I really dont want to get rid of her but I can't put any more money into this car if the turbo is going to keep blowing on me. I know that I can get a thunderbird t3 but they are getting hard to find. Can anyone give me any other options on what to do. Any help is greatly appreciated

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    VF10 like dwayne plans on using will drop into a VJ11 hotsde (not bolt uo but after looking at it we think we can make it work.
    "Discontent is the first necessity of progress."
    -Thomas A. Edison

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    *Junked* 92 mx3, BP swap- milage whore, beaten up and down the east coast
    *Junked* KLZE powered 323 on Megasquirt 1
    172.60HP & 156.93 TQ with only headers and short ram intake. back under the knife for a BPT swap.
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      #3
      Originally posted by MD323 View Post
      VF10 like dwayne plans on using will drop into a VJ11 hotsde (not bolt uo but after looking at it we think we can make it work.
      Are they easy to find is my next question

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        #4
        Originally posted by noshatch View Post
        Are they easy to find is my next question
        short answer? no

        but they can be had with alittle patience
        "Discontent is the first necessity of progress."
        -Thomas A. Edison

        "There is a fine line between ballin' on a budget, and dreamin' on an empty wallet."


        *Junked* 92 mx3, BP swap- milage whore, beaten up and down the east coast
        *Junked* KLZE powered 323 on Megasquirt 1
        172.60HP & 156.93 TQ with only headers and short ram intake. back under the knife for a BPT swap.
        New Daily stock 1.6L 1999 Mazda Protege LX

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          #5
          Originally posted by MD323 View Post
          short answer? no

          but they can be had with alittle patience
          Damn. I need something that is a little easier to find. I am waiting to see if the shop that rebuilt the turbo will warranty it.

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            #6
            Damn dude, I have yet to blow a turbo in 12 years of running them and running them hard. That said, I also have yet to deal with one that's been rebuilt.
            Do you run synthetic, and let the thing cool off some before shutting it down, and letting things warm up before hooning on it?
            '90 AWD Protege, full GTR drivetrain swap, ~320 whp daily driver, RIP, and
            '90 AWD Protege, yet another GTR swap, Open class rallycar with a Toyota GT4 gearbox swap, thus crossing the line between hobby and mental illness. And a Brabus E55 K8, removing all doubt.
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              #7
              Originally posted by jay View Post
              Damn dude, I have yet to blow a turbo in 12 years of running them and running them hard. That said, I also have yet to deal with one that's been rebuilt.
              Do you run synthetic, and let the thing cool off some before shutting it down, and letting things warm up before hooning on it?
              I baby the car. I don't use synthetic. I was using high mileage oil which is a blend with dertergents but a friend suggested with this turbo to go with conventional oil. So right now I am running conventional oil. As for the cool down period, I have a turbo timer and it is set to 30 seconds. The warmup. I always un the car for a minute or so before I start driving it. I try to keep the car from going into boost till I see the temp gauge move toward the normal area, and even then I still try to stay out of boost. I know people on this forum and other 323 drivers that drive their car a hell of a lot harder than me and dont have a turbo problem.

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                #8
                What were the symptoms?
                Are you using a boost gauge to verify?
                Are you certain the lines are routed correctly? And are they new lines for both coolant and oil? And have you made sure the passages are open all through the routing: supply and return?
                Any coking in the CHRA?

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                  #9
                  All the lines are brand new from Mazda. Everything was routed correct. I know what I'm doing with that. The only thing that was not new was the intercooler and piping. That's all stock. Boost gauge is working. I dunno

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                    #10
                    What about a TD05H 16G. I saw them on ebay and the flange looks the same as our stock turbo

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by noshatch View Post
                      What about a TD05H 16G. I saw them on ebay and the flange looks the same as our stock turbo
                      There not the same flanges 16g is bigger

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                        #12
                        I'd never use anything but synthetic on a turbo car. The centersection can easily get too hot for the normal stuff. Like BMFR suggested do an autopsy and look for black nasty buildup.
                        '90 AWD Protege, full GTR drivetrain swap, ~320 whp daily driver, RIP, and
                        '90 AWD Protege, yet another GTR swap, Open class rallycar with a Toyota GT4 gearbox swap, thus crossing the line between hobby and mental illness. And a Brabus E55 K8, removing all doubt.
                        http://www.wihandyman.com/forum/vbpi...?do=view&g=110
                        http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2599486

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                          Originally posted by jay View Post
                          I'd never use anything but synthetic on a turbo car. The centersection can easily get too hot for the normal stuff. Like BMFR suggested do an autopsy and look for black nasty buildup.
                          Everybody has there own oil they use I ran 10w40 regular autosomal oil for a full racin season n had no problems my china eBay turbo lasted all season n still tickin on my buddies car I used mobil one oil motor stayed cool n turbo loved that too my shaft stayed strong

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                            #14
                            I dont think that oil was the issue. I dont run a full synthetic because it liquifies easy. I would rather run a synthetic blend. Its really weird because the turbo has no shaft play.
                            Are you sure that this turbo won't work?
                            The mounting gasket looks the same but I can't find a reference that it is the same

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                              #15
                              no there really isnt anything else that will bolt right on, possibly if you slot it like the guys using the vj11's on the bp26 mani's but yould have to get a gasket and see...
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