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    KL V6 engine Megasquirt Plug and Play released

    I know the K series V6 engines are a little more rare on this forum, but I'd like to spread that word that we're now covering another platform. Read more about it here:

    Tuning Results, Technical Articles, News, and all things Stratified


    As a note, we cover the KLDE, KLZE and the K8 (1.8l MX-3) v6 engines.

    As always, I am always around for questions.

    Cheers!
    Last edited by Lex; 04-28-2011, 10:58 AM.

    #2
    DAMN!!! I spent the money I was saving for this. I guess I will start saving again.

    Questions...do you recommend using an external IAT? What's the downside of keeping the stock one? Does this PnP unit have a MAP sensor? I would like to lose the VAF if possible. How difficult/easy will it be to install this now and add coil packs later?

    I'll be saving my pennies.

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      #3
      If boosted, an external IAT is quite important since you can place it after the intercooler. The IAT is also in the VAF/MAF so if you want to replace that stock sensor you would need an external IAT.

      Of course the PNP has a MAP sensor and you can choose to purchase a 2.5 bar, 3 bar or 4 bar when you buy the unit.

      We are waiting on some feedback regarding coil packs. Our Plug and Play MS is upgradeable to handle coil packs, we are just waiting to see how many people want this upgrade.

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        #4
        good points...of course.

        I would make the coil pack upgrade standard. My thinking is that in 5 years, when everyone's distributors are failing and you can't even buy a new one anymore, people will need to do somthing that will last them several years without problems.

        Coil Packs are the way to go if you want to drive a KL powered car for a long time to come...IMO.

        I will be onboard as soon as I can convince the boss.

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          #5
          Originally posted by 300BHPZE View Post
          good points...of course.

          I would make the coil pack upgrade standard. My thinking is that in 5 years, when everyone's distributors are failing and you can't even buy a new one anymore, people will need to do somthing that will last them several years without problems.

          Coil Packs are the way to go if you want to drive a KL powered car for a long time to come...IMO.

          I will be onboard as soon as I can convince the boss.
          Sounds great. Coil pack drivers will for sure be something we will offer if the demand is that strong. The problem with offering something outside the stock wiring harness is that it requires people to cut, splice, solder wires which most people are not comfortable with from what we've seen. This is why we offer a 100% PNP unit to begin with - something that is as easy to install and handle as possible but with the upgrade potential already built in.

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            #6
            Awesome Lex! Job well done sir
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              #7
              For N/A applications, is there a power gain to be had by ditching the VAF?

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                #8
                Originally posted by concealer404 View Post
                For N/A applications, is there a power gain to be had by ditching the VAF?
                The more air you try and pull through a VAF, the larger a restriction it is. In both NA or turbo applications it is still a restriction - however its net effect will increase with airflow. So you would notice a larger different in turbo applications.

                Of course the biggest difference is the tune ... and in turbo applications you have the advantage of placing the IAT sensor after the intercooler instead of at the inlet.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Lex View Post
                  The more air you try and pull through a VAF, the larger a restriction it is. In both NA or turbo applications it is still a restriction - however its net effect will increase with airflow. So you would notice a larger different in turbo applications.

                  Of course the biggest difference is the tune ... and in turbo applications you have the advantage of placing the IAT sensor after the intercooler instead of at the inlet.
                  Makes sense. Thank you!

                  I assume that if i were using a 92 MX3 wiring harness to put a straight neck ZE in a 93 EGT, i would order the MX3 variant and load a ZE base map to it?

                  If it's really that simple, and truly no wiring involved, i will likely be ordering one after i've got the bugs dialed out of the car.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by concealer404 View Post
                    Makes sense. Thank you!

                    I assume that if i were using a 92 MX3 wiring harness to put a straight neck ZE in a 93 EGT, i would order the MX3 variant and load a ZE base map to it?

                    If it's really that simple, and truly no wiring involved, i will likely be ordering one after i've got the bugs dialed out of the car.
                    That's about all it takes. You replace the current ECU running your engine. I presume you are using a ZE ECU, so you would puchase a replacement for that ECU which is the Probe or MX-6 version.

                    The MX-3 and MX-6 cars are the same ECU-wiring wise but the MX-3 K8 comes with smaller injectors.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Lex View Post
                      That's about all it takes. You replace the current ECU running your engine. I presume you are using a ZE ECU, so you would puchase a replacement for that ECU which is the Probe or MX-6 version.

                      The MX-3 and MX-6 cars are the same ECU-wiring wise but the MX-3 K8 comes with smaller injectors.
                      Oh gotcha. Guess i didn't realize the harnesses were the same just because everyone tends to use the MX3 harness with this swap. And yes, i'll be running a KL31 ECU to set the car up.

                      Thanks! Will be in touch!

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by concealer404 View Post
                        For N/A applications, is there a power gain to be had by ditching the VAF?
                        Also one less 18 year old sensor to worry about. I'm not super concerned with performance. I just want the engine management system to be as bulletproof as possible.

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                          #13
                          would this work with a KLG4 in an escort? i mean the KLG4 is basically the same and has a coil pack.
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by MATT91GT View Post
                            would this work with a KLG4 in an escort? i mean the KLG4 is basically the same and has a coil pack.
                            What year does the KLG4 come out of?

                            I believe the cam and crank sensors are different from the earlier K series.

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                              #15
                              KLG4 is Mazda 626 98+
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