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    Re & Reing my Red 1988 Mazda 323 GT and looking for input/parts for building up a B6T

    Hello my fellow Mazdaphiles and '88-89 323 GT/GTX or other B6T owners and tuners out there. Everyone feel free to give advice amd lend me your input.

    I have an '88 323 2WD and after some idiot crashed into the front driver side my insurance company replaced the front headlight/turn signal/hood/lft 1/4 panel and radiator at an ICBC "approved" body shop.. After it was "ready" I drive her home (a lil under 10 mins) and by the time I got there the temp was at 2/3+ and she was idling at around 2500 rpm, well, low an behold, the headgaskest is shot on a 130,000 km original engine. The insurance company wouldn't fix it, the body shop wouldn't fix it, so I was SOL. I opened up the engine about 2 yrs later and figured out the problem in short order, the idiots at the body shop forgot to remove the lower radiator dust cap... a tiny lil red plastic cap was all it took, and even when i brought the cap with pictures to the body shop the guy still told me I was SOL, feckers, all of them.

    She was my daily driver/autocrosser/fun car and the car I let my brother use, as I had a 2003 Mazdaspeed Protege insured aswell for road trips, dates/weekends/etc. I did basic aftermarket and junkyard mods on her:

    -2.5" mandrel bent downpipe into a 3" str8 through (legal and fully functional) cat into 3" regular bent (cause at 3" on a 1.6 and stock turbo the cost of getting a full mandrel bent exhaust is just not gonna be worth the bang for the buck ecspecially on a secondary car) exhaust tubing all the way back to a 3" str8 trhough Borla "muffler". Thank god for turbos, cause there's no way i could get away with that on some of my N/A Si Civics, when my 323 gt was running it had a beautiful throaty sound that doesn't offend and is fully legal. Cost of parts (cat/'muffler'/2.5" DP/3" regular exhaust tubing) and shoptime including help/labour from exhaust shop owner set me back $500 CDN all together.

    -'88 626/MX6 GT intercooler with custom tubing was about $50 and an hr of my time.

    -Autometer A/F and Boost gauges about $100ish including maybe an hr for wiring/installation.

    -disconnecting 11 psi cut-off switch (hence the A/F meter) free

    -big ass custom K&N filter built into a DIY forced cold air system (essentially a small 1.5" flexible pipe mated from front spoiler into a hole drilled into the bottom of where the air filter is mounted) with an aluminumm heat shield in between the filter and engine/rad. $60 for the filter, and maybe $20 for the mandrel bent tubing and bits and pieces to make it work.

    -MSD blaster coil, MSD 8.5mm spk plug wires and NGK performance plugs, maybe $200-$250ish all together and about an hr to install everthing.

    -Apexi turbo timer for a lil extra turbo life, about $100 bucks and an hr of install time.


    I am forgetting a few minor mods, and still plan to do some more once the engine is being rebuilt (port/polishing), maybe slightly slightly lower compression, a BOV and replacement remapped CPU to run 16 psi saftely without having to watch my A/F meter all the time.


    Before the accident and shoddy repairs blew the head gasket it was running comfortably all summer (in Vancouver, BC) at 13.5 psi, and up to 14.5 psi during the winter with little room to spare. It would lean out at WOT arounf 5000-5500 rpm, so with a little more fuel I should br able to take her to redline safely..

    Anyways, I have to move in 2 months and I want to drive her out of the garage and not have to tow her to my new place, plus I just wanna drive and carress her, badly.


    I have the top end apart and when i last worked on it with a tech buddy I went to trade school with about a yr ago, and just took out the bottom end by hand, mounted the block to an engine stand and proceeded to take it completely apart for the machine shop so I can have everything cleaned checked and planed (if necessary), along with a valve grind if nessecary. Is it worth it to ligten the Flywheel via machinig?


    By the looks of the bottom end she's still in excellent condition, hardly any wear on any of the main or rod bearings/races, no scoring/scratching on the cylinder walls (just a light layer of rust from the deck down about 4-5mm) and no problems getting her apart in any way. The bearings look like they could be reused but I'll probly replace them while it's apart. The clutch only has maybe a 1/4 mm left or roughly 30-50000Km I would guess so I'm swapping it out for a Clutchmasters Stage 2 Clutch kit. The gearbox is find right now so I'll keep it stock until I eventually have problems with 2-3rd gear..



    Any ideas/tips of what I should have done at the machine shop would be appreciated, I'd like to get it runniing again then swap out the ecu and do a few more basic mods.

    PS. any relatively cheap tricks, parts or tips for increasing the bottom end's performance slightly would be appreciated aswell. keep in mind this is more of a daily driver and fun/balanced car than a power beast that will understeer with a blip of the throttle, I'm more interested in good, reliable power than crazy balls out 1/4 mile power. I know a beefier clutch is going to be harder on the tranny cause anyone with an '88-89 gt/gtx knows the tranny isn't the strongest out there. I don't want to swap the turbo or turbine/impellers until mine starts to wear out, as of now there is no play in any of the bearings..

    MOST IMPORTANT, this is an "All go, No show" car. So if it doesn't improve performane/reliability I'm not interested

    This is my second '88 323 gt (last one was silver, this one is red), the 1st one I owned was before I was a mechanic and some idiot turned right into me almost head on and wrote off the 1st one, if I knew now what I knew then I woulda kept the car for parts..

    Thanks for any and all input and thanks for this excellent forum. Sorry about writing such a novel. lol

    #2
    I am very interested in finding a remapped ECU for 16-18psi, I've emailed rocket man, and I heard Reich isn't doing anything for the BF/323 performance parts anymore. So if anyone out there knows where to find a remapped ECU or has one to sell I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks yall.

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      #3
      Hi,

      Does it really need to be a remapped ECU? I know it will be much easier to do ECU upgrade, but wouldnt you benefit more from a standalone system?
      With B6 becoming real scarce in the rest of the world, i doubt that anybody owning a ECU will let go of it, i might be very wrong too.

      Regards
      Adin
      mazda stands by you

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        #4
        I would go stand alone but it's a little too pricey for me right now, I'd rather just swap out the pcm/ecu for a chipped one, I sure hope Rocketman is still out there
        Thanks for your input though, I appreciate it.

        If anyone knows of any cheapish stand-alones that work for the b6t please give me a brand list.

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          #5
          remapped ECUs never work, best bet is to buy a stand alone like a Mega Squirt would be your cheapest bet. Finding stuff for a B6T is near impossible now. I sure wont sell my B6T parts for the reason
          FE3 POWA
          1985 Mazda 323 BF5P - FE3 powered

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            #6
            Remapped ECUs never work? Hmmmmmm...... interesting.

            Yes, parts are getting more difficult to come by. Good luck. Talk to crazycanadian. He might have some spare parts and he's in your neck of the woods.

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              #7
              I think I got most of his parts. I do know he still has a transmission though. Also, somebody approached me one day as I was parking my GTX, said he used to have a GT and he still has some parts left over from when he did. I can give you his contact info if you are interested. Sounded like he had quite the stockpile of stuff.

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                #8
                Rocketman is ROCKIN' and still rechipping ECUs so I'm super stoked. Plus he's selling excellent J-pipes to replace the super restrictive one that comes stock.

                Evilist, I don't know what remapped ECUs you're talking about???

                Rocketman's, Reich Racing's, and EL Prototype's rechipped/mapped ECUs have never had serious problems (there might have been a few with manufacturing errors(improper remapping)/soldering issues/damage during shipping) that I've read about.

                I had one of Rocketman's earlier units that increased performance even without major mods that i wasn't able to salvage when the 1st GT was wrecked, i got another of his units for a friend's GTX about 4 yrs ago and never heard anything but positive reviews.



                Anyways, I get all the pieces of the engine back tomorrow, once cleaned you could really see how good condition the crank/cam/rod journals and cylinders/pistons are in. they all measured within allowable specs. The head just needed slight plaining, and the valve pressure test was over 90% so no need to do a valve grind. They're checking the block deck tomorrow but he's pretty sure it's well within tolerances. The flywheel only needed a light resurface but i'm having it plane a bit for the new clutch.

                It looks like the 130000k on the motor was put on there by my grandma, lol, you can see it in the vj14 aswell, it has no play and is in impecable condition. Once the stock vj14 starts to wear I'll swap out for a hybrid VJ or something around that size along with a midsize FMIC.

                Thanks for the input and info Mazdarx!


                I'll post some pics of the components when I can tomorrow.

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