Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

GI: YCW Reference Series Coilovers

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    GI: YCW Reference Series Coilovers

    Hey guys,

    just putting this up to see if you guys would be interested in our new line of mid-range coilovers? We have the fitment specifications already in our system for Protege BJ, BH, Mazda3 and Mazda6, but would need a minimum of 5 confirmed buyers (per fitment type) to put them into production.

    After countless hours of research into the various coilover setups currently available on the market, we noticed that there is a gap in the market for a mid-range setup that:

    1) Offers premium real-world features, at an affordable price point
    2) Offers local (North American and European) facilities for rebuild and servicing


    Whilst there are a lot of generic (i.e budget) setups available on the market at the moment, they are basically all the same/similar design (i.e generic) and have not changed over the past 15 years, with prices ranging from $1000-2000; the more expensive only being due to the "brand" and the "assembled in XXX label" rather than the design features (the components are all still manufactured in China, Taiwan or Korea). Infact, the top selling Budget Taiwanese Coilovers that are currently plaguing the market at the moment are all manufactured from the same technical drawings!

    Of course, we fully understand that, rather than reinventing the book, it is best to stick to tried-and-tested designs (especially for the street car) hence why all the current setups available are very similar. It is because of this gap, we at YCW Engineering decided to design and manufacture a quality mid-range solution that meets our #1 priority; Value for Money. Whilst there is a large demand for premium setups designed for the high-end race car, our aim with our Reference Series Coilovers is to bring some of the more advanced real-world features from the premium setups, incorporate them into a package suitable for the everyday street car, and offer them at an affordable price point without sacrificing on technical support and servicing

    At only marginally more cost than a budget setup, you get a higher quality, better performing mid-range coilover solution with an industry-leading warranty, unparalleled after-sales technical support and product servicing

    YCW Reference Series Coilovers
    - Spec'd for Superior Performance
    - Priced for Affordability
    - Over-Engineered for Comfort & Safety

    Limited Lifetime Warranty on Hard Parts
    - Warrantied against Manufacturers Defects
    - Non-Transferable. Registration and Proof-of-Purchase Required
    - Hard Parts include: Upper/Lower Mounts, Spring Perches, Locking Collars, Shock Body and Piston Rod

    Limited 1 Year Warranty on Wear Parts

    - Warrantied against Manufacturers Defects
    - Non-Transferable. Registration and Proof-of-Purchase Required
    - Wear Parts include: Bearings, Springs, Seals and Shock Internals

    Local Service Facilities
    - North America: San Dimas, USA. Warranty Claims, Rebuild Services and Re-valving Services available
    - Europe: Leyland, United Kingdom. Warranty Claims, Rebuild Services and Re-valving Services available
    - Asia-Pacific: Taichung, Taiwan. Warranty Claims, Rebuild Services and Re-valving Services available

    Specifications:

    Forged 6061-T6 Hard Anodised Aluminium Front Upper Mounts

    - Strong and Lightweight, our Forged Upper Mounts are Hard Anodised for superior Corrosion Resistance

    Forged 6061-T6 Hard Anodised Aluminium Rear Upper Mounts (Where Applicable)
    - Strong and Lightweight, our Forged Upper Mounts are Hard Anodised for superior Corrosion Resistance

    High-Tensile Carbon Steel Front Camber & Caster Plate with Anti-Slip Coating (MacPherson)
    - CNC-Machined High-Tensile Carbon Steel supports more load than lesser-quality mounts
    - Camber Angles can be adjusted precisely to your driving needs
    - Caster Angles can also be fine tuned (MacPherson)

    Oversized PTFE-Lined Japanese Spherical Upper Mount Bushing
    - Increases shock articulation and prevents coil-bowing
    - Higher load rating for increased durability
    - Minimises knocking noise associated with lesser-quality bearings

    Forged 6061-T6 Hard Anodised Aluminium Upper Spring Perch with Sealed Japanese Radial Bearing
    - Strong and Lightweight, our Forged Upper Spring Perches are Hard Anodised for superior Corrosion Resistance
    - High Quality Sealed Japanese Radial Bearing removes rotational stress from the upper mount and is sealed from the elements

    62mm ID Cold-Wound Japanese SAE 9254V Chrome-Silicon-Vanadium Steel Linear Springs
    - Custom-made for us in Japan from the highest quality Japanese-grade spring steel, using proprietary manufacturing processes
    - Not all springs are manufactured the same. Lesser-quality, Taiwanese-manufactured springs offer inferior performance and durability
    - Although more expensive, we believe the increase in performance more than offsets the marginal increase in manufacturing costs

    OEM-Balanced Spring Rates
    - The majority of budget coilovers currently on the market offer default spring rates that deviate from the oem-balanced spring rates
    - By not accounting for Motion Ratio Calculations and just replicating race-car setups, this results in a very unbalanced and uncomfortable ride on a Street Car
    - All Reference Series Coilovers are supplied with oem-balanced spring rates, offering you increased performance without sacrificing ride comfort

    62mm ID Cold-Wound Japanese SAE 9254 Chrome-Silicon Steel Helper Springs (Application Dependent)
    - Optional Helper Springs can be used to increase droop travel

    52mm OD Cold-Drawn Japanese SAE 1020 Seamless Carbon Steel Shock Body
    - Offers superior physical properties and strength-to-weight ratio over lesser manufacturing processes

    Black-Zinc Plated Fully-Threaded Shock Body with 250hrs of Salt-Spray Testing
    - Offers superior corrosion-resistance

    14mm OD or 20mm OD (MacPherson) Forged SAE 4140 Chromoly Steel Piston Rod
    - Monotube shocks, although offering increased performance over Twintube shocks, have an inherent weakness; a load-bearing Piston Rod
    - Although Inverted Monotube Shocks are touted as the solution, these come with their own set of problems, not least the substantially increased cost of manufacture (Optional: $100/corner)
    - Our over-engineered solution to the problem, with only a marginal increase in manufacturing costs, is our proprietary Chromoly Steel Piston Rod
    - Offering a substantial increase in tensile strength over lesser-quality rods, not only does this keep costs down, it significantly increases product safety

    Oversized Piston Rod Guide
    - A common issue with the majority of budget coilovers currently on the market is performance-sapping deflection and shaft-play, even after only limited usage
    - Through the use of our proprietary Piston Rod Guide, this minimises deflection and shaft-play, allowing you to reap the performance benefits for a longer period of time

    7-Level Rebound Adjustment
    - Our Reference Series Coilovers allow 7 levels of Rebound Adjustments, allowing you to fine-tune your vehicle comfort and handling
    - Unlike the majority of budget coilovers currently on the market, with their 30+ Level Adjustments, you can physically feel the difference between each adjustment
    - In this particular case, more is not better; it's simply an inconvenience and setup-nightmare

    10cm/15cm/20cm Length Adjustment Extenders (Optional)
    - Designed for vehicle applications with limited access to their upper strut mounts

    44mm OD Forged 7075-T6 Hard Anodised Aluminium Digressive-Blow-Off DBO Piston™
    - Over-engineered for superior strength, with anti-stiction and anti-friction properties
    - At lower shock speeds (Cornering), our DBO Piston™ maintains a higher damping force, offering increased responsiveness and stability
    - At higher shock speeds (Bumps), our DBO Piston™ maintains a lower damping force, offering increased comfort and control

    Performance Synthetic Damper Oil with High Viscosity Index and Proprietary Additives
    - A proprietary formula providing consistent damping over a wide temperature range and superior anti-stiction/anti-friction properties

    Viton Performance O-Rings
    - Upgraded O-Rings offering better performance and durability than lesser-quality Rubber O-Rings

    Forged 6061-T6 Hard Anodised Lower Spring Perch Locking Collar
    - Strong and Lightweight, our Forged Locking Collars are Hard Anodised for superior Corrosion Resistance
    - 1pc Locking Collars, providing secure and hassle-free adjustments

    Fully-Threaded Forged 6061-T6 Hard Anodised or High-Tensile Carbon Steel Lower Mount
    - Threaded Lower Mounts allows us to use a longer shock body for increased performance
    - Shock Stroke is unaffected by Ride Height changes
    - Allows an increased Height Adjustment range

    PTFE-Lined Japanese Spherical Lower Mount Bushing (Eyelet Type. Optional)
    - Increases shock articulation and prevents deflection
    - Higher load rating for increased durability
    - Minimises knocking noise associated with lesser-quality bearings

    Silicone Lower Mount End Caps (MacPherson)
    - High Quality Weather-Proof End Caps for MacPherson lower mounts, preventing water and dirt from entering the the lower shock body

    Weather-proof Neoprene Shock Covers
    - High Quality Weather-Proof Shock Covers, preventing water and dirt from clogging up the shock assembly

    Fully Rebuildable
    - Our Reference Series Coilovers are fully rebuildable, with spare parts always in stock and available for purchase




    Softest Setting


    Hardest Setting


    Reviews:
    BMW 335i - http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42704
    VW Golf GTi - http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105309
    Ford Focus ST - http://www.focusst.org/forum/focus-s...st1081460.html

    MSRP: $1499.95
    Pre-Order Price: $899.95 inc FREE Shipping within the US. That's 40% discount off MSRP!
    Lead-Time: 2-3 Months after confirmation

    As mentioned above, we would need 5 confirmed buyers to proceed, and a 50% initial deposit. Remainder will be due upon shipping.

    If you have any questions, please feel free to ask

    Interest List
    1) 93BlkOnGreenPro (BG) - PAID
    2) TSShredder (BG) - PAID
    3) therieldeal (BG) - PAID
    4) V3N0M951 (BG) - PAID
    5) Manny944s2 (BG) - PAID
    6) projectb10 (BG) - PAID
    7) wheresthericego - (BG) - PAID
    8) DragonGTX (BG) - PAID
    9) KaleoXtreme(BG) - PAID
    Last edited by MFactory; 01-25-2017, 02:29 PM.
    MFactory / YCW Engineering (LSD's, Gears, Flywheels, Clutches, Driveshafts, Axles) - www.teammfactory.com
    YCW Suspension (Mid-Range Coilovers) - www.ycwsuspension.com
    SWIFT Springs Europe (Exclusive Distributor) - www.swiftspringseurope.com
    SWIFT Springs Asia (Exclusive Distributor) - www.swiftspringsasia.com

    #2
    These look great, I need to sit down and go through all these specs, but I'd say it's a nice deal for under 1K USD. That is the going rate for the BC type BR coilovers for the 323 which would be the only ones I'd buy.

    Thank you for posting and taking the time to make such a well-written and detailed post that includes Japanese physics sheets .

    *Oh wait, this doesn't include previous generations before BHA? I know the BJ strut bolt patterns are not compatible with BG, but I'm not sure of BHA interchangeability with 2nd gen BGs..
    Last edited by Cloud_Strife; 10-26-2016, 05:04 PM.
    1991 Protege LX 5MT, P/S, A/C, NOW Sun Roof!

    Comment


      #3
      If you can make it work for the bg chassis, i think i would be in

      Sent from my SM-N930P using Tapatalk
      My car is a Vazondissan. Part Nissan. Part Mazda. Part Ford. Part VW. Part Honda.

      1993 Protege - DX with LX upgrades. Still rockin' the SOHC. Custom HID headlight Retrofit.

      2009 Mazda 3 - Finacee Car. No power nothing. About to trade in for a 2014 Mazda 6 Sport.

      Install Shifter Bushings: http://www.wihandyman.com/forum/show...491#post646491

      Custom HID's: http://www.wihandyman.com/forum/show...&highlight=hid

      Comment


        #4
        Stephan @ Mfactory has all of the specs/measurements for our chassis BF/BG/BHA/BJ so no need to worry, he's just looking for interest
        ---Has ClubProtege helped you in someway? show your support by Contributing--- Click Here---

        1992- project FE3..... 313 WHP @ 9.3psi




        I pet my dash when I get into the car..."good car"
        he actually has a mazda tree, parts grow on it

        Comment


          #5
          Nice job and I like where your going with this. I may have been in on this but I already committed to having another well known company build me a set of coilovers.

          I find the single biggest problem with current offerings to be the terrible shocks, so if you can overcome this then you have a competitive solution.


          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
          92 Mazda MX3 GS> For sale, $1750 OBO
          94 Escort wagon--BP swap coming, VF10 Turbo, COP, EVO ECU, 03 ZX2 front end conversion
          "Hold yourself accountable before you are held accountable"
          EV14 330cc@3Bar injector kits available.
          EV14 GT500 injector kits available for the BP. 610cc@3Bar.
          EV14 925cc@3Bar injector kits available
          BP Forged H beam rods available now
          KL Forged H beam rods available now
          K8/KF Forged H beam rods awaiting test fit
          FS Forged H beam rods
          awaiting test fit
          F2 Forged H beam rods awaiting test fit
          FE3 Forged H beam rods coming soon
          Mitsubishi 3.8 MIVEC rods coming soon
          Aluminum CAS/Distributor caps
          BP oil jet eliminators
          EV14 fuel rail spacers
          More stuff coming soon.......

          Comment


            #6
            Sorry late reply, not sure why I'm not receiving notifications of replies

            Could someone confirm the years for the BF and BG chassis please? I'm guessing pre-94 (with BH from 94 and BJ from 98)
            MFactory / YCW Engineering (LSD's, Gears, Flywheels, Clutches, Driveshafts, Axles) - www.teammfactory.com
            YCW Suspension (Mid-Range Coilovers) - www.ycwsuspension.com
            SWIFT Springs Europe (Exclusive Distributor) - www.swiftspringseurope.com
            SWIFT Springs Asia (Exclusive Distributor) - www.swiftspringsasia.com

            Comment


              #7
              BG 90-94

              Sent from my SM-N930P using Tapatalk
              My car is a Vazondissan. Part Nissan. Part Mazda. Part Ford. Part VW. Part Honda.

              1993 Protege - DX with LX upgrades. Still rockin' the SOHC. Custom HID headlight Retrofit.

              2009 Mazda 3 - Finacee Car. No power nothing. About to trade in for a 2014 Mazda 6 Sport.

              Install Shifter Bushings: http://www.wihandyman.com/forum/show...491#post646491

              Custom HID's: http://www.wihandyman.com/forum/show...&highlight=hid

              Comment


                #8
                Something that might of interest to some



                Basically, for those who do decide to go for a Budget-range coilover (make no mistake. Ours are a mid-range coilover, with every single component being designed from ground up to differentiate us from your generic Taiwan coilover), and there is nothing wrong with that, I would choose the BC Racing as that is the original.
                Last edited by MFactory; 10-27-2016, 10:07 PM.
                MFactory / YCW Engineering (LSD's, Gears, Flywheels, Clutches, Driveshafts, Axles) - www.teammfactory.com
                YCW Suspension (Mid-Range Coilovers) - www.ycwsuspension.com
                SWIFT Springs Europe (Exclusive Distributor) - www.swiftspringseurope.com
                SWIFT Springs Asia (Exclusive Distributor) - www.swiftspringsasia.com

                Comment


                  #9
                  Yup, that is why I'd only buy the BC ones. Plus their sale/returns/help and support are quite well established. That's a nice flow chart, should print it up and post in the garage for people lol. So, did people just leave BC and make coilovers with their tech drawings? Seems like intellectual property theft/poor patent enforcing.

                  Again, I need to go through that initial post, but if 300zx gives his blessings, and at that price point, it's a good idea.

                  For my setup of KYB GR2's, H&R springs, and (if I can find them) ~$400 Cusco camber plates, I'd still be over your 899.00 USD price, and not have height adjustability.

                  Also: Fifth generation Familia (BF; 1985–1989). Honestly, on this website, I'd say 60-70% of posters and guests are in the BG area, while the rest are spaced out between BF and BJ.

                  I am interested, but cannot say if I am a confirmed buyer. Is there a time frame you would like an answer by?
                  Last edited by Cloud_Strife; 10-28-2016, 12:19 AM.
                  1991 Protege LX 5MT, P/S, A/C, NOW Sun Roof!

                  Comment


                    #10
                    That flow chart is very interesting and just based on how close to nearly identical Ksport and D2 looked I always knew they were likely made by the same company just different colors.

                    How do say Fortune Auto or Feal Suspension fall into that chart? or do they at all?

                    Or say TEIN/JIC/JUN?

                    I would like to see a review from somebody that has run other coilovers before so they could give a good comparison between them. People that have never had coilovers before think KSport or D2 are awesome, when in reality after you run something with good quality dampers you realize how bad they really are.

                    I guess basically as long as they have better dampers and springs and better matched spring rates than KSport/D2 and are priced pretty close then you guys will have a for sure winner.
                    92 Mazda MX3 GS> For sale, $1750 OBO
                    94 Escort wagon--BP swap coming, VF10 Turbo, COP, EVO ECU, 03 ZX2 front end conversion
                    "Hold yourself accountable before you are held accountable"
                    EV14 330cc@3Bar injector kits available.
                    EV14 GT500 injector kits available for the BP. 610cc@3Bar.
                    EV14 925cc@3Bar injector kits available
                    BP Forged H beam rods available now
                    KL Forged H beam rods available now
                    K8/KF Forged H beam rods awaiting test fit
                    FS Forged H beam rods
                    awaiting test fit
                    F2 Forged H beam rods awaiting test fit
                    FE3 Forged H beam rods coming soon
                    Mitsubishi 3.8 MIVEC rods coming soon
                    Aluminum CAS/Distributor caps
                    BP oil jet eliminators
                    EV14 fuel rail spacers
                    More stuff coming soon.......

                    Comment


                      #11
                      Originally posted by Cloud_Strife View Post
                      Yup, that is why I'd only buy the BC ones. Plus their sale/returns/help and support are quite well established. That's a nice flow chart, should print it up and post in the garage for people lol. So, did people just leave BC and make coilovers with their tech drawings? Seems like intellectual property theft/poor patent enforcing.

                      Again, I need to go through that initial post, but if 300zx gives his blessings, and at that price point, it's a good idea.

                      For my setup of KYB GR2's, H&R springs, and (if I can find them) ~$400 Cusco camber plates, I'd still be over your 899.00 USD price, and not have height adjustability.

                      Also: Fifth generation Familia (BF; 1985–1989). Honestly, on this website, I'd say 60-70% of posters and guests are in the BG area, while the rest are spaced out between BF and BJ.

                      I am interested, but cannot say if I am a confirmed buyer. Is there a time frame you would like an answer by?
                      Yes, one of the lead engineers left BC to start D2, then it just snowballed from there. There are no patents to enforce unfortunately.

                      This is why Taiwan has a major staffing issue. One the one-hand, you want good employees with knowledge. On the other, once those employees gain experience (with their knowledge), they will leave and start their own company. That's the Chinese way; always has been, always will be.

                      Kayaba's are good (made in Taiwan, and some other countries, but are a Tier-1 with a lot of oem applications) and inexpensive. H&R Springs are durable. Cusco camber plates......

                      Thanks for the advice on the BF/BG

                      We don't have a time-frame yet, no. This was more a GI thread than a GB thread
                      MFactory / YCW Engineering (LSD's, Gears, Flywheels, Clutches, Driveshafts, Axles) - www.teammfactory.com
                      YCW Suspension (Mid-Range Coilovers) - www.ycwsuspension.com
                      SWIFT Springs Europe (Exclusive Distributor) - www.swiftspringseurope.com
                      SWIFT Springs Asia (Exclusive Distributor) - www.swiftspringsasia.com

                      Comment


                        #12
                        Originally posted by 300zxrb26dett View Post
                        That flow chart is very interesting and just based on how close to nearly identical Ksport and D2 looked I always knew they were likely made by the same company just different colors.

                        How do say Fortune Auto or Feal Suspension fall into that chart? or do they at all?

                        Or say TEIN/JIC/JUN?

                        I would like to see a review from somebody that has run other coilovers before so they could give a good comparison between them. People that have never had coilovers before think KSport or D2 are awesome, when in reality after you run something with good quality dampers you realize how bad they really are.

                        I guess basically as long as they have better dampers and springs and better matched spring rates than KSport/D2 and are priced pretty close then you guys will have a for sure winner.
                        Technically, they are a different company, with a different facility. However, the "owner" is the same person. Reason was because D2 wanted more sales, but their US distributor could not give them it and, as their US distributor was "exclusive", they could not sell to another customer. So his way around it was simply to create a new company. Boom, problem solved.

                        Fortune Auto are good. Although their parts are sourced from overseas, they are all assembled to custom specs in the USA, so the QC is there (AFAIK). I have no reason to doubt their quality/performance.

                        Feal Suspension: I quit looking after seeing their default spring rates. Not very encouraging (btw, this is how to determine if the company is a "trader", a "manufacturer", or a "specialist". Taiwan/China manufacturers don't have a clue on motion ratio dynamics etc, so all they do is look at the latest Ohlins catalogue, see what the popular spring rates are for Race Cars (read: not for street), copy, and make. The "trader" then buys from the "manufacturer" with the same spring rates. Only a specialist will offer rates that make sense, hence why most of the good EU companies don't even list their spring rates. To the Europeans, a street car needs to offer stability/performance, yet not compromise on comfort)

                        TEIN etc: Their high-end stuff is good. The rest is run-of-the-mill and not Made in Japan, contrary to popular belief. So people know, both Germany and Japan do NOT have rules in place enforcing the "Made In XXX" stamped on the box; infact, their governments encourage the use to help with exports. JDM is the biggest scam for the past 20+ years.

                        Whilst I don't want to call ourselves a "specialist" (and far from it) as we are new to this game, we made for sure that when we developed our coilovers, to do our utmost to distance ourselves from these generic products. Before we even started, the first thing that we done was to gather feedback from existing customers (non-suspension customers) on what sort of features/performance they expected from a performance coilover, and we specifically chose testers whom either had previous experience, or existing experience, with our target competitors: Bilstein and KW

                        A few of our testers removed their KW V3's to test our coilovers, and suffice to say, they will not be putting the KW's back on. If that is not a good sign of things to come, I do not know what is
                        MFactory / YCW Engineering (LSD's, Gears, Flywheels, Clutches, Driveshafts, Axles) - www.teammfactory.com
                        YCW Suspension (Mid-Range Coilovers) - www.ycwsuspension.com
                        SWIFT Springs Europe (Exclusive Distributor) - www.swiftspringseurope.com
                        SWIFT Springs Asia (Exclusive Distributor) - www.swiftspringsasia.com

                        Comment


                          #13
                          Lol, the Cusco camber plates were mostly insurance since they hold their price well upon resell. Many of the enthusiasts like that kind of rare, hard to find stuff, so it was more about being able to sell for a premium after I tired of them, and needing adjustment after lowering.

                          It's amazing to see the poor patent enforcing (or lack of patents) in real world applications, and in the coilover category. It's funny you mentioned China, as they, and India, are some of the worst in terms of intellectual property theft. I read that India is the worst culprit, and that China is trying to mitigate their existing poor control so that they can receive more trust in foreign investment.

                          I actually talked to one of the established Japanese coilover companies (can't remember who) and they told me that in order to compete with the idiots that buy trash coilovers, they had to outsource production using the same methods as those in Taiwan. I was either that or they charged copious amounts of cash and lose an entire customer base of cheapos who don't care what the sticker says, as long as they can put one on the rear quarter glass. That is why Tien changed their entire line-up lately, from the established 4 or 5 tier system, and why it was so confusing when I was looking at them a year ago -_-.

                          I've never had Fortune Autos, but I've only heard great things. They really impress some of the grumpy, picky, and "I hate everything" miata guys, who are usually completely against any non-custom-assembled suspension. Also, the company has one of the most stellar support setups and It's quite easy to send your old stuff in to get refreshed. The custom spring rates are also a huge bonus; If they weren't such ugly colors, I would have got them quite a while back for another chassis lol.

                          The only coilovers I have personally had were Raceland's (which were the most trash things I've ever road on), and Tein's middle-tier super street or something or other. The Racelands- won't even talk about. 1/10. The Teins were wonderful, very comfortable spring rates, good competitive feel, and a nice out of the box sub 1k basic system; this was however before they completely restructured and redesigned their lineup so I don't know if it has the same QC.

                          Originally posted by MFactory View Post
                          TEIN etc: Their high-end stuff is good. The rest is run-of-the-mill and not Made in Japan, contrary to popular belief. So people know, both Germany and Japan do NOT have rules in place enforcing the "Made In XXX" stamped on the box; infact, their governments encourage the use to help with exports. JDM is the biggest scam for the past 20+ years.
                          I really, really do not like that. Are you saying it can be manufactured in Thailand (not a bad production geographic), but stamped with Japan? Or are you saying they can pull 99% of parts from other countries, and then just put them together and say it was "made" in Jap land?
                          Like I've never seen a Canadian Bride seat, but I'm pretty sure they are stamped with "made in Canada". Same as whoever else owns the rights to produce (Aussies?).

                          I will be looking for coilovers pretty soon, and my baseline will be comparing to the GR2s with H&R springs, which should be a comfortable yet competitive stockish baseline. Is anyone else interested? Kitty would have the money, not sure the budget, but he rarely logs on.
                          Last edited by Cloud_Strife; 10-28-2016, 08:58 AM.
                          1991 Protege LX 5MT, P/S, A/C, NOW Sun Roof!

                          Comment


                            #14
                            As long as the items are shipped from Japan, they don't care. Germany doesn't even require that; anyone can use "Made in Germany".

                            Most of the mainstream stuff coming out of Japan are made in Taiwan (BC, some oem Tier-1's), China (too many to count) or Korea (HSD)

                            Some of the German stuff is similar to how Fortune do it i.e Components made in Taiwan, but assembled in Germany under strict QC.

                            Thailand are not that bad, as long as the QC is QC'd :D Otherwise, Ohlins wouldn't be made there (not all their stuff. They use several places)

                            At the end of the day, it's not where an item is made (our company is Taiwanese after all, so obviously I have nothing against my own country! lol), but who controls the manufacturing process
                            MFactory / YCW Engineering (LSD's, Gears, Flywheels, Clutches, Driveshafts, Axles) - www.teammfactory.com
                            YCW Suspension (Mid-Range Coilovers) - www.ycwsuspension.com
                            SWIFT Springs Europe (Exclusive Distributor) - www.swiftspringseurope.com
                            SWIFT Springs Asia (Exclusive Distributor) - www.swiftspringsasia.com

                            Comment


                              #15
                              Lol, yeah no problem, that is basically the only way to be competitive in the global market right now. Sourcing from elsewhere and using a stricter QC and better management policies.

                              If only everyone applied Edward Deming's policies :/. The sourcing of parts has been the same way for longer than I have been alive, so it really is nothing new, but management really is key.

                              Soooo in the scope of this "GI" thread, what would satisfy you moving to a "GB" thread? More posts?
                              1991 Protege LX 5MT, P/S, A/C, NOW Sun Roof!

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X