1st gen 4WD rear suspention in 2nd gen !??!

[Black_91_GT]

Is it possible ... or are they way too different ?

[NegatiZE]

I'm not that familiar with the 1st gens but the 2nd gens have more in common with the 3rd gen as far as the rear suspension goes.

[THEGOLDPRO]

yeah i dont think thats gonna work, and i hear they are weak to begin with.

[Torped0]

Doesn't patrick with the bad ass turbo charged protege have AWD? I think he did the complete BPT swap

[Black_91_GT]

yeah i dont think thats gonna work, and i hear they are weak to begin with.

when you say ... " i don't think that is going to work " .... is that just a random though or based on some valid info.

I know that the 1st gen 4WD rear end will bolt up to a non-4WD Protege .... the chassy is the same and the bolts align .... i have the 4WD rear end out on the floor ... i can take some measurements of the bolt pattern .... does someone have access to a rear end from a 2nd gen that could do the same.

[Black_91_GT]

uhh dude... why do you want to even bother hacking up the 1st gen **** to the 2nd gen? it's WAY different.. and besides, the FWD and 4WD floor pans are completely different, they're not going to bolt up and the 4WD hardware won't bolt up either

Floor pans are not the problem .... i took a look at the 1st gen 4WD Protege ... and the reason why the tunnel is wider is to accomodate the exhaust and the driveshaft ( the driveshaft is on the passanger side of the widened tunnel, the driveshaft is in the middle )

if you want anything, you'll be tracking down the 2nd gen 4WD **** from japan anyway

Lets not forget that in 1998 people were saying that the KL motors will not work in BG chassis .... today we all know they can be dropped in without hacking anything ... just using the righ combination of parts.

Does anyone have the measurements for the 2nd gen rear end ?

[Black_91_GT]

I will take your word for it .... but i still want some measurements from the 1st gen and 2nd gen mounting spots.

Like i said ... i have the GTR RWD assembly ... i will take some measurements ( mounting points / trailing arm length )

Someone has got to have the 2nd gen rear end kicking around .... i am hopeing they are reading this thread

:-)

I found a shop that builds custom driveshafts and a found a shop that does custom chassis work in my area .... i would not mind spending some money bolting up that stuff ... and it would be even good just to prove everyone that it can be done with little money.

Here is some other things i am considering for the 4WD in the 95 323:

- Trany & Firewall ( spacing / mounting )
- Fuel tank ( might need to reshape the tank or get fuel cell )
- Rotors / pads / caliper replacement for the rear ( availability / compatability )

I am building this car for my mom ... i want her to be the coolest mom around and if there is a remote possibility of this car being a 4WD car i am going to try and do it ....

- i priced out a custom aluminum driveshaft ( 200$ )
- and mounting the rear assembly with little mods .... might be around couple of hundred bucks too ...

so i don't think it is a rediculous idea

[Black_91_GT]

I don't have the money to buy a M3 ... plus my family loves Mazdas.

I am the owner of ( http://mazda.a-spec.ca ) <--- Biggest Mazda website
I am the owner of ( http://protege.a-spec.ca ) <--- First KL + BG ( 1997 )
My brother is saving up to buy a Turbo II
My sister is dreaming about getting a Miata
My dad is trading in his van for a Millenia

Why in the world am i going to buy a M3 ? Even if i had the money to buy a M3 ... i would not, i would move on to my next project ---->

20B + 929





Sample Pic: Tripple Turbo 20B ( http://me.a-spec.ca:6001/Past/Piston...tor_3turbo.JPG )

Sample video clip of a 20B powered 86 Corolla ( http://www.osoiworks.com/v3/ow/media...BSprinter.mpeg ) with only 600hp ( the 20B motors are capable of 500hp with dinky stock twin turbos ... large single turbo setup scan easily double that power figure )

And how about all you guys head over to this page here ( http://me.a-spec.ca:6001/Other/Articles.html ) and read these two articles ....



and find out why Porsche built the 911 RS CS and why BMW built the M3R

<---- Mazda rules, BMW sucks mules


Some trivia for you guys ..... what is the most reliable make in the history of 24 Hour of LeMans ???

[Black_91_GT]

How about you guys head over to this page here ...

http://me.a-spec.ca:6001/Other/Articles.html

Read these 2 articles ...





and find out why Porseche built the 911 RS SC and why BMR built the M3-R

[skr33t_rac3r]

all the links dont work

[Gro Harlem]

So your the guy who wrote that awesome "mazda past and future" website? or are you the owner of the actual company: a-spec in toronto?

[midnightblue97]

I can't believe Edwin surrendered.

[zenilder]

but since you're mr a-spec... I surrender

Mahahaha.

Gee... I sense a bit of sarcasm there. Tsk tsk!

[Black_91_GT]

the classic price test is the M3 test... hence why it was mentioned usually,

The M3-R was mentioned because BMW had to build a crazier M3 to compete with a done stock Mazda RX-7 that was kicking ass in teh hands of an amature radio station DJ .... battleing against factory sponsored heards of BMWs and Prosches that used to dominate that race

crazy **** like what you want to do will make the car cost as much or more than the M3... thus it's easier to just get the M3 for the performance that's demanded

There is nothing crazy about that RX-7 ... it is a stock RX-7 with no power options and some CF parts.

There is no way that you are going to tell me that $$$/performance is better on a BMW than a RX-7. I doubt that any car can come close to it.

I surrender

Don't surrender ... read more about RX-7 and rotary engines.

[Black_91_GT]

So your the guy who wrote that awesome "mazda past and future" website? or are you the owner of the actual company: a-spec in toronto?

No i do not own it ... i am friends with them.

Back in 1998 when i did the website i used to have a lot of spare time ... i wish i had some time to work on it now though .. cause there is so much more happening in the Mazda world.