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    1st gen turbo

    okay, lets start of with I DONT KNOW **** about cars hahaha, and i was thinkin after winter i should have a good 3 grand saved up, so im thinking maybe gtr or gtx, but from what i understand it would be better just to drop a turbo in my stock lx engine because the airflow would be betteR??? well idk about that cause i dont know anything about nothing hahaha, well , if i was to get a turbo what else whould i need, because i know that u need 2 get other stuff 2 turbo a first gen. if someone could give me a list of other parts i would need and there aproximate cost lol it would be really helpfull thanks...

    #2
    Here's a parts list written by Jesse Dillow:
    --VJ-20 Turbo from a GTX imported from Japan http://www.corksport.com/ = $300
    --Exhaust Manifold -from a GTX = $176 from Cork Sport
    --Jacobs "Boost Master" timing controller -from Jacobs Electronics. = $245
    --Fuel Management Unit (FMU) -from Cartech. = $200 #20005 rising rate fuel pressure regulator
    --Starion/Conquest TSI intercooler = $120
    --Mandrel Bends -from JC Whitney. I used a 5 -90 degree bends and 2 -45 degree bends in my setup YMMV
    --Bosch BOV = $55
    --Walbro 255 ltr./hr. fuel pump -from VE Petersen Company 1-800-537-6212 = $130
    --Gauges: from Summit Racing. = about $300
    Boost
    Exhaust Gas Temperature (EGT)
    A/F ratio
    Fuel Pressure
    Oil Pressure
    Water Temperature
    --"Grainger" Valve to control boost. http://pages.cthome.net/gus/mike.html = $2
    --Apexi S-AFC ($327) and GTX 330 cc injectors (about $150) can now safely run 10 psi
    --4-wire TPS sensor to allow the S-AFC to work properly
    Can also use: Pre 95 talon BOV (the all metal one) about 45.00 (used) 2" copper bends used for water pipe with radiator hose in various bends to connect the piping.

    You can get a GTX Ecu instead some of the things on this list, but you need to start searching around. There's a lot of info on this on the Protege / Escort forums.
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    '91 LX
    '03 Mazdaspeed Protege #235
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    Originally posted by pigeon
    well if you're a fan of inaccuracy and uncertainty.... then by all means, go set your timing by feel and sound

    while you're out there, you might as well adjust your air/fuel ratio by smell... and your tire pressure by ride height

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      #3
      thanks for teh info , how much did u spend all 2gether? and how much hp u got now?

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        #4
        2500-3000$ prob 180-200 whp depending on your setup

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          #5
          Just a Question, because the 1st diagram isn't working for me at http://pages.cthome.net/gus/mike.html

          For a one stage boost controller The valve would be put between the actuator (is this the wastegate?) and the intake manifold correct? There would be nothing else included besides the valve?? No 90 degree brass barb on the manifold side, or the barb is still there?

          Would these parts be available at, say, Home Depot??

          I was also wondering about the soleniod valve.....available at Home Depot? Is it just called a Soleniod valve?
          Last edited by Tweeaks; 10-15-2003, 06:08 PM.


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            #6
            I'm not quite understanding the concept of the Dual Stage Controllers on the site. Would anyone care to explain in more detail on the diagrams?


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              #7
              If you've got the LX model already, just buy the GTX engine, and put the head from your lx onto the GTX block. I think the GTX cams are slightly hotter than the LX ones so you might want to change them over while you're at it.
              Ryan The middle child is always ignored
              BP powered 97LX Touring Edition
              Vibrant strut tower brace, KVR front brake pads, Tungsram Megalicht H4 headlight bulbs, Phillips Halogen H3 foglight bulbs.... 91 GT rims w/ 195 60 14 Yokohomo Mirada GTX sport

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                #8
                If you could find a GTR for that price I'd say go for that! BoostedPro ran 12s with a stock engine... i will probably never see 12s with my setup and I have spent a lot more money!
                -Robert
                '93 Protege Turbo LX 5-speed


                -GTX VJ-20 turbo w/ custom downpipe, Haltech E6K Kit w/ 3Bar MAP sensor & O2 sensor (Engine Management System), .040 overbored pistons with slightly raised compression, Resurfaced cylinder head & valve job, GReddy Type-S BOV, Turbo XS boost controller, 450cc injectors, Walbro 255lph fuel pump, 22"x9"x3" FMIC, full 3" exhaust w/ Catco Catylic converter & Summit Turbo Muffler, ACT Clutch Kit (stage 2), Uretheane shifter bushing, Triple Gauge Pod w/ Boost, Air/Fuel Ratio, and Oil Pressure gauges, Falken Azenis Sport 195/60HR14 tires on steelies.

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                  #9
                  If you got a larger turbo, you can, the haltech is very useful....
                  2006 Mazda 3 hatchback manual

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by charles
                    If you got a larger turbo, you can, the haltech is very useful....
                    Currently looking for t3/t4 turbo after seeing those exhaust mani's on ebay!
                    -Robert
                    '93 Protege Turbo LX 5-speed


                    -GTX VJ-20 turbo w/ custom downpipe, Haltech E6K Kit w/ 3Bar MAP sensor & O2 sensor (Engine Management System), .040 overbored pistons with slightly raised compression, Resurfaced cylinder head & valve job, GReddy Type-S BOV, Turbo XS boost controller, 450cc injectors, Walbro 255lph fuel pump, 22"x9"x3" FMIC, full 3" exhaust w/ Catco Catylic converter & Summit Turbo Muffler, ACT Clutch Kit (stage 2), Uretheane shifter bushing, Triple Gauge Pod w/ Boost, Air/Fuel Ratio, and Oil Pressure gauges, Falken Azenis Sport 195/60HR14 tires on steelies.

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                      #11
                      exhaust manifolds on ebay???
                      2006 Mazda 3 hatchback manual

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                        #12
                        Oh, nevermind, I found the thread. interesting
                        2006 Mazda 3 hatchback manual

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                          #13
                          yeah in order to do an lx head swap onto the gtx you'll need to use all the lx valvetrain components.
                          1994 Mazda Protege GTX

                          1990 Mazda Familia GTX BPT engine swap
                          Walbro 255lph fuel pump
                          ACT high performance street cluctch kit
                          Arospeed coilovers
                          Custom clear corners
                          Custom side markers
                          Custom MazdaSpeed windshield logo
                          TurboXS boost controller
                          1990 Mazda Familia GTX Front bumper
                          NGK 1 step colder spark plugs
                          Accel performance wires

                          Future Plans:

                          Rims, sideskirts, front mount intercooler conversion, GTR turbo, turbo timer, and paint.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by SpoolinPro93
                            Currently looking for t3/t4 turbo after seeing those exhaust mani's on ebay!
                            those mainfolds dont fit protege they would bolt up to bp but u wont clear radiator .
                            http://hometown.aol.com/d2maz/index.html
                            )
                            91 PROTEGE 4WD BPT RUNNING WOW TRACTION WITH 1.5 BAR(sold)
                            97 ECLIPSE GST SPYDER (K&N ,BCS MOD, GREDDY FMIC) new toy(sold)
                            99 PASSAT GLX V6 (OEM E spec navi, wife's car)
                            2006 JETTA TDI DSG 50 mpg(sold)
                            2006 EVO GSR
                            FIXING VW's for past 10 years

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