pulling engines

[Semtex]

ok when you pull out and engine you need to take out the axels right? well ive heard that if you pull them both out at the same time this thing inside the tranny drops, and makes it impossibel to reinsert the axels

what is thing called in the tranny that drops?

and how do i get it so it dont drop?cut an axel??

thanks for your info, ill be needing it soon

[kcbhiw]

what is thing called in the tranny that drops?

I beleive it's the differential that drops. Someone correct me if I'm wrong

You only need to pull the axles out if you're removing the transmission with the engine. It's possible to remove the engine without removing the transmission. I had no problem getting the engine in and out of my Escort with the transmission never having been removed. There's enough room to move the engine around and have it clear the bellhousing. It may save you quite a bit of work going this route as well.

[skr33t_rac3r]

i was able to pull both axels out without the diff falling but maybe im lucky

[Marc93lx]

I've heard that part refered to as the "spider gear".

[Protoss]

if you are lifting an engine... do it wiht the tranny. keep everything bolted. remove the axles from the tranny. disconnect the steering rack. unbolt the cross member and the engine mounts lift the engine and tranny as a unit. split the 2 on the floor of your garage. it is a hell of a lot easier to do that than in the confinment of the engine bay. BELIEVE ME!!!

[analytical]

I tried too get the axle off but it wouldn't budge so I pulled mine from the top with the engine, tranny, and the drivers side axle. Oh yes it can be done.:p:

[Semtex]

see thats what i want to do, pull good engine out with tranny intact

then insert it into better car

but to pull out tranny and engine as one peice i have to remove both axels, how do i prevent the spider gear from falling?

[FineWine]

Originally posted by kcbhiw
It's possible to remove the engine without removing the transmission.

I'd have to see that one before I believe it. Anyone else do this?

[Protoss]

i've seen a mazda master tech do it... note the "MAZDA MASTER TECH" part. to get the tanny off of the bell housing, which in return is removed from the block, you have to almost remove the tranny anyways. save yourself the world of hurt!!!

[FineWine]

heh, yeah, i couldn't imagine it being easier than just removing the whole package.

[bruce95fmla]

ok here goes my insight..
I did my motor in my 2nd gen protege..
helped Adam with his 1st gen GTR
helped my friend with his 89 CRX (B16)

You can pull the motor out the top if you want.
But I have found and proven to 3 or 4 people that it is way easier to drop the motor out the bottom ..

Once you pull the axles, I find it easier(like Protoss said) to split the engine and tranny apart and together while outside the car. To try and split them inside the bay is something I never, nor will ever bother with trying.

especially on a 2nd gen .. Your not getting that motor out the car without the tranny.

Sooo... what your doing a motor swap ... changing a clutch.... ?????

[beachnut]

But still the question remains ... and I'm going to need to know this soon myself. I've heard that you can pull the driver's axle, put in something like a small piece of a wooden broom stick in it's place to keep the gear from falling, then pull the passenger axle. Anybody ever try that?

[midnightblue97]

I'm pretty sure that its the Differential Side gears (spider gears like someone else said). That fall and basically you'd need to open up the transmission to put them back.
I'm not sure if you can get a\way with using only one or you need two, but if you go to the junkyard and look for an old pro, get the inner CV sockets and put them in the trans wihle its out.

[Semtex]

im going to pull the engine out as a whole tranny and engine and then stick the whole thing in another pro

the engine im pulling has lesser miles and dosent burn the blue

im not pulling the engine away from the tranny it is NOT an option
and again the question remains how do i keep it from falling?

has anyone done this?? bruce???

i think i will go with the cut inner cv joint/axel idea seems logical
thanks midnightblue97

[Protoss]

a broom handle will work too as stated. when i pulled the axles out of the EGT i had no issue with a gear falling. but that was an auto tranny. i have pulled apart a saturn. i had no issues with anything falling in the tranny...