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    #61
    you really are an idiot.
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    03 Accord DX: K24/5MT, peasant-spec old man's car
    92 240SX: KA/T25, nerd mobile

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      #62
      Originally posted by dwpeek
      All that trouble. All you guy's really need to do is find a kit ready made for the car. This might be a little extra money, but in the end you don't have to **** with it near as much and in the long run you might actually end up saving money.

      SEE Y'ALL

      Oh snap!!111 why didnt anyone think of that..... dayumn, youre the brighest one EVEAR!!!111 jeezz...... what n00bs we are for going to all that trouble, when we could just buy a kit...... its sooo simple.
      The T3 BP MX-3 conversion has begun, and is taking forever & will kill me.

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        #63
        well thats one hell of a EGT you got there nice job on it.

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          #64
          Originally posted by D323
          lol, it went from cant to dont. I am just curious why it is sooo bad?
          Also I'd like to add that going below the minimum thickness of a head will also affect the crank to cam timing. Which will in turn affect the valve opening and compression of the strokes... etc etc.

          ... and now back to TURBO'ing your BP!

          JoN - Automotive Machinist Journeyman/Refrigeration Mechanic Journeyman
          Member of MX-3.com
          1996 Mazda MX-3 RS - Creek Blue Mica
          1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE - Raspberry... RIP


          Racing BP (Project "Blue" Marlin)... Twin Scroll GT3071R, breaking 30psi at the moment!

          "Do it ONCE, do it RIGHT!"

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            #65
            Originally posted by Shades

            Also I'd like to add that going below the minimum thickness of a head will also affect the crank to cam timing. Which will in turn affect the valve opening and compression of the strokes... etc etc.

            ... and now back to TURBO'ing your BP!

            That's a great point jon, a lot of the time we don't realize the side effects modifications have aside from the obvious.

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              #66
              shaving/milling/decking a block and/or cylinder head will change your cam timing a very small amount.

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                #67
                subbin for this sucker, great write up...another sweet thread to my collection
                Originally posted by 90prtege
                have you heard a yaris drive by you??? it says immmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmgayyyyyyyyy!!!!
                Originally posted by Turpro
                Fk the family. Drugs and hookers take priority first

                bpt323: broom break
                CRZbrussian: that sux
                CRZbrussian: get swifer wet
                CRZbrussian: ****s aluminum

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by tehstocker99 View Post
                  subbin for this sucker, great write up...another sweet thread to my collection
                  Thanks!
                  BP-05 Turbo-Sold
                  2004 MK4 AWP Jetta GLI

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                    #69
                    first post!

                    I've been working on all of the parts needed for a bp-05 turbo set-up with minimal fabrication for a while and I think that I am really close. Can someone please tell me what else I need?
                    Parts list:
                    GTX ECU (bp-26) I don't have the patience or time for tuning and I wont be running that much boost anyways
                    GTX exhaust manifold
                    VJ-20
                    GTX fuel injectors
                    Custom downpipe with separated wastegate flow joining the rest of the exhaust just before the catalyst. Ideally it would start out of the turbo at a 15 degree megaphone shape until it reaches 3-inch diameter and continue through...
                    3-inch exhaust stainless steel with...
                    3-inch inlet and outlet muffler and catalyst
                    GTX oil pump, more oil pressure than the n/a oil pump and turbos like oil
                    GTX air flow meter
                    Front Mount Intercooler (FMIC)
                    Intercooler Piping, stainless, mandrel-bent held together with couplers because I can't weld. I'm unsure of the diameter i should use...I know that the airflow velocity in the piping should stay less than 250 ft/sec. I am unsure of the outlet of the vj-20
                    GTX oil pan, built-in oil return and ?more capacity?
                    GTX throttle body, four-wires so that it will produce a signal that the bp-26 ECU knows what to do with
                    Bypass-valve and tubing, mounts after intercooler and is returned to before the intercooler; BOVs are for ricers
                    Oil and coolant lines for the turbo, I haven't found where there oil send, coolant send, and coolant return go. I would really appreciate pictures.
                    323 GTR ?BP-c8? intake. Flows better than the GTX
                    Lightened GTX flywheel either machined and aftermarket. I am unsure of the options.
                    OEM GTX clutch and pressure plate
                    Walbro 255 liter per hour fuel pump, turbo'ed engines like fuel
                    Boost gauge
                    ?knock sensor?
                    modify wires 1H (wastegate solenoid valve) 1i (fuel pump resistor relay) 2J (knock control unit) 2M (Throttle sensor) 2Y (Circuit opening relay) and possibly 2R (turbocharge indicator) 2S (overboost warning buzzer).
                    timing at 10 advance
                    I think that this should bring me close to 200 wheel horsepower at 10.5 psi and will cost in the neighborhood of $1200 to $1300. Is this all correct?

                    Thanks for all of your help,
                    bgdriver
                    Fast, cheap, reliable: pick two.

                    1992 Mercury Capri XR2 130xxx miles SOLD

                    1990 Honda Civic SI
                    186k 10:1 hybrid motor
                    d16 on 10 pounds will turn ya out.

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                      #70
                      wow! thats gotta be the best first post ever :D congrats! welcome to clubprotege

                      to answer a few questions:
                      you can get the knock sensor and knock control box from a probe/mx6/626 2.2 turbo. same sensor, same control box.

                      there is a debate about intercooler pipe size in this forum somewhere i believe. basically 2"-2.25" should be fine for a vj20, but go straight for 2.5" if you plan to upgrade to a larger turbo later on. thats the general concensus it seems.

                      as far as the oil/coolant feeds and returns. take a look at the front of your block, right near where it bolts to the trans. theres a small plug like 1" from the seam w/ the transmission, that is the oil feed. there is a larger plug a few inches up and to the left, thats your coolant return. the coolant feed comes from a nipple on the metal heater pipe that runs across the front of the block below the exhaust manifold. you can either add a nipple to your stock one, or get a gtx one, OR get one from a B8 sohc protege. apparantly they have an extra nipple in the right spot.

                      you dont really need 3" exhaust for the vj20, 2.5" should be plenty. but like the IC piping, if you plan to upgrade later theres nothing wrong with 3" right off the bat . check out the gtx downpipe that corksport.com sells, its an excellent piece. however, if you want to build custom i have a flange for sale . i also have a turboxs bypass valve for sale

                      good luck!! by the way post some pictures of your car :D

                      -jon
                      Escort GTR -- 11.87 @ 117.6 mph -- 320 HP / 325 Ft. Lbs. @ 23 PSI
                      ... The first FWD BG with a Toyota E153 transmission conversion in the USA!
                      Looking for BP x Toyota E153 adapter plates? PM me or contact me on Facebook: Riel Performance Parts

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                        #71
                        http://www.wihandyman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27807 and it now has an air intake and Pacesetter header/exhaust in the mail.


                        it's actually sort of my dad's car (don't laugh at t3h noob) lol
                        but he doesn't like posting on forums terrible much so I do research/forumming for him. I love t3h protege though and i want to buy one when I get the money.

                        (I might be a clubprotege noob but I'm not a forum/car noob I know how to make a decent post)

                        /threadjack
                        Fast, cheap, reliable: pick two.

                        1992 Mercury Capri XR2 130xxx miles SOLD

                        1990 Honda Civic SI
                        186k 10:1 hybrid motor
                        d16 on 10 pounds will turn ya out.

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                          #72
                          um 200whp? Not on that setup.

                          Stock boost makes 180 BHP. Dyno's ~150 to the wheels. The setup you have listed on the stock ECU and stock boost will flow better than stock pushing up the boost... but probably not enough to find a 33% increase in power.

                          Looks like a good setup so far.

                          I have a JDM GTX knock sensor sitting by (not used since I switched to MSnS) if interested.
                          The T3 BP MX-3 conversion has begun, and is taking forever & will kill me.

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                            #73
                            I thought stock boost was 8 psi?
                            Fast, cheap, reliable: pick two.

                            1992 Mercury Capri XR2 130xxx miles SOLD

                            1990 Honda Civic SI
                            186k 10:1 hybrid motor
                            d16 on 10 pounds will turn ya out.

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                              #74
                              its somewhere between 8 and 9. the stock wastegate tends to boost creep pretty easily anyway though.

                              -jon
                              Escort GTR -- 11.87 @ 117.6 mph -- 320 HP / 325 Ft. Lbs. @ 23 PSI
                              ... The first FWD BG with a Toyota E153 transmission conversion in the USA!
                              Looking for BP x Toyota E153 adapter plates? PM me or contact me on Facebook: Riel Performance Parts

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                                #75
                                so everything I have there plus the coolant nipple, knock sensor and control box, and (forgot to mention these earlier) colder spark plugs.

                                Now all I need to do is convince him to go turbo...
                                Fast, cheap, reliable: pick two.

                                1992 Mercury Capri XR2 130xxx miles SOLD

                                1990 Honda Civic SI
                                186k 10:1 hybrid motor
                                d16 on 10 pounds will turn ya out.

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