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    #31
    both!
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    1992- project FE3..... 313 WHP @ 9.3psi




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      #32
      Originally posted by bpt323
      both!
      Twice
      "Discontent is the first necessity of progress."
      -Thomas A. Edison

      "There is a fine line between ballin' on a budget, and dreamin' on an empty wallet."


      *Junked* 92 mx3, BP swap- milage whore, beaten up and down the east coast
      *Junked* KLZE powered 323 on Megasquirt 1
      172.60HP & 156.93 TQ with only headers and short ram intake. back under the knife for a BPT swap.
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        #33
        Don't you only lose dynamic compression when doing that??
        Static compression would remain the same. And decking would still only increase static, am I correct??
        Ryan The middle child is always ignored
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          #34
          Dyno chart

          Originally posted by bpt323
          wow, PSI turbo your statement is both true & very biased. 8-9WHP is not a worthless mod. the car even drives better. It is not reccomended to start decking the block or head as a way to increase compression. thats the poor mans way of doing it. Speak to flyin' miata & let them tell ya.
          I may be called poor mans mod, but when I get 230 to 235 psi compression and still pass California Emissions its not that "POOR" after all. The engine does not overheat, I have no idle problems, no Check Engine Light and got plenty of power.

          We are still waiting for your DYNO chart you had "problems" uploading. I did not brought up the DYNo chart, but you... So, was it just BS talk or are you going to show the facts.

          I understand how you made the Intkae Exhaust cam work, but in HP gains I dont think so... Integral Cams worked some kind of a cams test sponsorship with my car for about 2 months and found out no gains whatsoever be it Stage 1, Stage 2 or Stage 3. We worked different profiles, from swappin only one cam for each side I and E and workin both at the same time.

          I think this thread is just another one of those useless postings were poeple just brag about the unknown secrets nobody figure out but me, just total BS.

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            #35
            By the way what was your compression when you did the exhaust intake cam?

            I know the answer cause I did it in mine, the whole swap exhaust intake cam and checked and checked and after some testing was not impressed at all with this custom cam. it may sound cool, but thats as far as it going to be. Performance wise, stick with your factory cams.

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              #36
              PSIturbo, keep your opinions to yourself, you obviously have no idea. nor have you successfully tested this mod. your best to leave the thread to people who have actually tested & ran this mod.
              my compression was such of a 7000 mile motor unmolested.... so pretty damn close to factory specs. somewhere mid 180's or so. the compression really isn't of importance in this thread to begin with. The mod works regardless of your compression & is a great mod to anyone with adjustable cam gears.
              Its fine for you to remain an unbeliever but don't clutter the thread with your biased opinions.
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              1992- project FE3..... 313 WHP @ 9.3psi




              I pet my dash when I get into the car..."good car"
              he actually has a mazda tree, parts grow on it

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                #37
                Originally posted by turpro
                i got the head from the jy and want to build it solid. so i will have new valves,dual springs,toga head set(teflon seals),titanium retainers and keepers,port polish,5 angle,exhintake cam. thats the plan for now. i
                Why would you do that much head work and run stock cams? What a complete waste...
                "Never run out of real estate, traction & ideas at the same time"
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                Remember low compression makes more space for AIR, HEEELLOOOO!

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by JesseSays
                  Why would you do that much head work and run stock cams? What a complete waste...
                  accually ive desided to swap a kl into the car so i trashed the head.

                  plus this thread was made back in november when i was going to do it.
                  1993 Protege LX-Midnight's shadow SOLD
                  1996 Honda CBR600-Wrecked. Damn Honda crippled me
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                  Originally posted by jay
                  .....they totally underestimated the number of gearheads such as myself that have families but refuse to grow the hell up and stop playing with cars, or that otherwise see the utility of having 4 doors. Obviously I ain't alone, as there are a helluva lotta sti and evo here. Bueler? Beuler? Mazda? Mazda?

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                    #39
                    Well...better idea. Too bad your spelling hasn't improved.
                    "Never run out of real estate, traction & ideas at the same time"
                    -93 MR2, 129 ES
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                    Originally posted by WTF
                    Remember low compression makes more space for AIR, HEEELLOOOO!

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by psiturbo
                      When higher duration cams is installed, compression is lost. So, I bet your car is running slower than faster. I went thru all this crap with INTEGRAL CAMS company. We tested three different setups or profiles with a stock ECU. The rev limit will REALLY limit you on gaining any HP. Unless the ECU is remapped so the engine can visit the 8,000 range making this cam exhaust swap is useless or shave the cylinder head significantly.

                      Originally posted by from Ford laser forum
                      PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:33 pm Post subject: Exhaust cam in intake cam Reply with quote
                      I think that what he is saying is getting an additional exhaust cam, cut it the same size as an Intake Cam.

                      Remove the intake cam and installed the modified cut exhaust cam. Only thing is it has to be installed 180 degrees CC (or upside down). Plus jump around 2 or 3 teeth CC, plus you need an adjustable cam gear to move it around 3 to 6 degrees to finally find TDC in the Intake (Exhaust) cam.

                      I have done it on my BP (non turbo) installed in my Mazda 1990 323. So far I am still tuning because I did it a few hours ago. I can say it works fine, fits perfect, no weird lifter noises, etc. Tomorrow or in the next few days will work on tuning and test it with my Gtech to see if gain something in my 0-60 times.

                      Any questions email me at psiturbo@gmail.com
                      "Discontent is the first necessity of progress."
                      -Thomas A. Edison

                      "There is a fine line between ballin' on a budget, and dreamin' on an empty wallet."


                      *Junked* 92 mx3, BP swap- milage whore, beaten up and down the east coast
                      *Junked* KLZE powered 323 on Megasquirt 1
                      172.60HP & 156.93 TQ with only headers and short ram intake. back under the knife for a BPT swap.
                      New Daily stock 1.6L 1999 Mazda Protege LX

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                        #41
                        hahaha
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                        1992- project FE3..... 313 WHP @ 9.3psi




                        I pet my dash when I get into the car..."good car"
                        he actually has a mazda tree, parts grow on it

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                          #42
                          So?

                          Originally posted by MD323

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                            #43
                            I did say I had no weird noises and that it fit perfect.

                            I did NOT mention any performance gains. I said I had to tune it and noticed it never worked, its bull **** crap. I do have cam gears to adjust different degrees and I do know what will the compression be after the swap is done bla bla bla... I just know you are full of ****, ah, ahaaa! and just talkin out of your ass!

                            But dont deviate from the main 3 questions...

                            What was your compression with the exhaust Intake cam?

                            Where is your dyno video or slip to prove your gains?

                            What had to be done to the ignition timing to make it work right?


                            You still cant answer because you did not do the swap at all. You dont even have pictures ofd your project. You talk and talk but show no proof.
                            Last edited by psiturbo; 03-30-2006, 03:34 PM.

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                              #44
                              Bla bla bla

                              Originally posted by bpt323
                              PSIturbo, keep your opinions to yourself, you obviously have no idea. nor have you successfully tested this mod. your best to leave the thread to people who have actually tested & ran this mod.
                              my compression was such of a 7000 mile motor unmolested.... so pretty damn close to factory specs. somewhere mid 180's or so. the compression really isn't of importance in this thread to begin with. The mod works regardless of your compression & is a great mod to anyone with adjustable cam gears.
                              Its fine for you to remain an unbeliever but don't clutter the thread with your biased opinions.

                              Full of ****...


                              Bro, the compression goes down around 20 psi or more no matter what degrees are given to the cams, be it +,+... -, -.. +, -, -, +...

                              The compression is lost because the valves for longer periods. I do have pics to prove I did the swap. And I come to this forum asking you once again where is your DYNO???? to prove the gains. Hey, you were the one who mentioned dyno bla bla and all of a sudden come up with uploading issues...





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                                #45
                                Bla bla bla

                                Originally posted by bpt323
                                i corrected the last post. i didn't get a chance to upload my dyno graph as this time i didn't have access to a scanner
                                first run was pre exhintake cam 117WHP 112FT. LBS
                                afterwords it was 128WHP 116FT. LBS
                                not much gain in torque but an 11WHP overall gain
                                4k+ had a 13:1 AFR, but pre 4k had really wacky AFR.
                                that was with 5° advance on the intake 1°retarded on the exhaust.

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