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    #46
    you pictures aren't even using a BP06 exhaust cam unless you felt like you know more then the engineers & welded the end shut. PSI turbo, your just feeling salty balls cause you can't get a simple mod to work. I told you before. keep your OPINIONS out of this thread.

    The dyno slip is in my hand, thats all the proof I need. Come to WI, i'll take the time to remove a cam gear from my car & cut another exhaust cam put it into my NA 323, drive it to the dyno & show you the gains.

    I don't have uploading issues, I simply am not magic. I can't turn a piece of paper into a .jpg give me a scanner; id more then gladly upload the dyno graph to shut your nonsense up. find the dyno graphs & infomation about this that gen1gt posted. He did this mod as well.
    If you knew a thing or two, youd realize that no one ever argued with you that the compression changes when the valves are open.
    & secondly theres no need to alter the ignition timing since your not altering the exhaust cam.

    keep trying it with the wrong cam & you won't get any good results.
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      #47
      Hello!

      You are really stupid with that observation.

      The Kia Sephia with the BP05 block and 1.8 DOHC head is the same. Even the profiles are the same, lift and duration, only difference is the cam is solid instead of hollow like the Escort GT thats why in PR its better to use that cam, prevents flexing and is more resistible to snapping under boost conditions.

      I chose the Kia cam for 2 reasons:

      Its solid and second the 1996 car I took it from had little miles so the cam did not have a lot of wear.

      And its not a BP06, its a BP05 stupid

      Facts of Kia Sephia and Escort GT

      The cylinder head is even Kia (BP05), I scraped it off so I did not have any issues with the smog tech here in California. Right beside where the BP05 print is it used to say KIA...


      And stop the BS, just scan it like everybody has done and stop your excuses. Dont worry I will help you out from your ignorant confusion. Also, you stated the compression is OEM specs when in fact is not true. Compression will change... I installed the factory cam and did the same tests and compression went up to 220-230. Remember I have the Miata 10@1 pistons, so YES higher lift exhaust cam in the intake will lower compression. Like I said my boy I am here to help you.
      Last edited by psiturbo; 03-30-2006, 07:39 PM.

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        #48
        Originally posted by psiturbo
        Full of ****...

        The compression is lost because the valves for longer periods.
        Try and type complete sentences, with proper spelling, and things like commas and periods where needed. Maybe re-read your post before you post it.

        Static compression doesn't change. Only dynamic, and I think most of us know that...besides you.

        Chill out. And where are your dynos to prove it DOESN'T gain anything?
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          #49
          wow, you really have issues, BP06 is the label on the Exhaust cam. Solid cams add valvetrain weight, & are not nessicary. Have YOU ever busted a hollow cam because of boost.
          Stick to your own ideas. I'll work on getting your damn dyno sheet

          "WTF" can shut up now.
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            #50
            The usual typo

            Thats why this forum is so lame.

            First, we got a dude with a signature of a BMW.

            Second, another one who talks and talks out of his intestinal cavity.

            Third, the usual "you don't know how to type, then you are a moron and don't know ****"

            Fourth, the usual "scientific evading explanation to divert the facts.

            Ok, I Mahy nhot now jow to writ or know watt the jell dymanic or ztatic means.

            This I do know; compression is compression and does not lie. The question was shoot to the air to reveal if he really was talking the truth or not. Of course he/she or both is not telling the truth because compression DOES go down by changing the Intake Exhaust swap. The same way people do compression test to see if piston rings are bad OR OR OR>>> the valves are sticking or staying half way open.

            I finally said it, whatever bro... compression does change, it does go DOWN which is not good and by a mile 40 psi of compression to be exact. You can do whatever you want and lie to yourself by believing AND worst, by making believe in this forum it works. Hey, more power to your linguistal typing jabilities LOL. You should be working at Pep Boys in customer service and soon can be a rising star as a manager. Its all an ego problem to demonstrate how many secrets and tricks you know and fit in at this forum.

            For me and to everybody else who has not done the swap, the Exhaust Intake swap is mythbusted for sure. In the other hand, I have not tried it under boosted conditions and is another thread that I for sure wont cover.

            About the solid cams if they break under boosted conditions is another thread as well.
            The cam is the same lift and duration as a Protege Escort GT cam so its a BP06... I got pictures to prove it, not like you that have no pictures or dyno sheet to prove the fake information. I am replying to show the people of this forum that you are full of **** with this swap, not to convince you, but to teach you when and where fart from your mouth.




            Dont ask me for dynos, he was the one who STATED dyno proven and now comes with the excuse of the scanner broken or travel to China to see it or cuhm and see it in his hand hahha! Whatever, nof said. Hey in fact it does work, everybody please do the swap you will gain 7 hp at the wheels I got the chit to prove it.
            Last edited by psiturbo; 04-01-2006, 11:45 PM.

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              #51
              this mod sounds like more trouble than its worth.

              You basically NEED adjustable cam gears to make it work and those cost quite a bit.

              Why hasn't anyone tried buying the mazdaspeed miata BP intake cam & making it work? You can't use its exhaust cam b/c of the distributor slot, but an escort guy my roomate knew had that **** installed in his EGT and it made a **** of a difference.

              and...the mazdaspeed miata cam is about 170 shipped from MMS....for a 6-8whp gain with NO tuning required i'd take that over hours of heartache & dyno tuning trying to get this dual-exhaust cam mod to work. I applaud the creativity but to me it just isn't practical.
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                #52
                Originally posted by psiturbo
                Thats why this forum is so lame.

                First, we got a dude with a signature of a BMW.

                Second, another one who talks and talks out of his intestinal cavity.

                Third, the usual "you don't know how to type, then you are a moron and don't know ****"

                Fourth, the usual "scientific evading explanation to divert the facts.

                Ok, I Mahy nhot now jow to writ or know watt the jell dymanic or ztatic means.

                This I do know; compression is compression and does not lie. The question was shoot to the air to reveal if he really was talking the truth or not. Of course he/she or both is not telling the truth because compression DOES go down by changing the Intake Exhaust swap. The same way people do compression test to see if piston rings are bad OR OR OR>>> the valves are sticking or staying half way open.

                I finally said it, whatever bro... compression does change, it does go DOWN which is not good and by a mile 40 psi of compression to be exact. You can do whatever you want and lie to yourself by believing AND worst, by making believe in this forum it works. Hey, more power to your linguistal typing jabilities LOL. You should be working at Pep Boys in customer service and soon can be a rising star as a manager. Its all an ego problem to demonstrate how many secrets and tricks you know and fit in at this forum.

                For me and to everybody else who has not done the swap, the Exhaust Intake swap is mythbusted for sure. In the other hand, I have not tried it under boosted conditions and is another thread that I for sure wont cover.

                About the solid cams if they break under boosted conditions is another thread as well.
                The cam is the same lift and duration as a Protege Escort GT cam so its a BP06... I got pictures to prove it, not like you that have no pictures or dyno sheet to prove the fake information. I am replying to show the people of this forum that you are full of **** with this swap, not to convince you, but to teach you when and where fart from your mouth.

                Dont ask me for dynos, he was the one who STATED dyno proven and now comes with the excuse of the scanner broken or travel to China to see it or cuhm and see it in his hand hahha! Whatever, nof said. Hey in fact it does work, everybody please do the swap you will gain 7 hp at the wheels I got the chit to prove it.
                If you think this forum is so lame, then why do you keep coming here and causing drama?

                I haven't tried this mod myself, I have only read about it. You seem to be the first person that I've seen complaining about it, and how it lowers compression. Perhaps you did something wrong, or don't know how to do a compression test?

                How is this mod mythbusted for sure? All you did was rant on about some pshyco babble bull**** and said that you're right and everyone else is wrong.
                Nice work sleuth, for sure!

                So what if Ryan can't show you the proof right now, other's have shown proof of the gain achieved from this mod. If you think it's such a terrible idea, then don't do it. Let other's try it if they want, what's it to you? That's how you learn buddy, trial and error, experimentation, by doing. Hell, I'm thinking about spending my nice sunny afternoon down at the shop doing this mod just so I can do a compression test and proove you wrong.

                You're like a stupid bitch, all you do is ramble on, but you're not really saying anything. Get a life, go work at Chucky Cheese's.

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                  #53
                  PSIturbo just feels salty balls,
                  He can't proove that it does work, & he can't proove that it doesn't work.

                  Point is this mod is extremly simple & gives greater gains for the money invested then the other basic mods. intake/exhaust/header.
                  $99 for a decent adjustable cam gear,0-$20 for an exhaust cam, you can cut the distributer drive off yourself if need be. guarunteed under $150 for 8-9WHP @ the ground is really a pretty good deal.
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                    #54
                    Hasn't it already been proven?
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                      #55
                      pretty much
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                        #56
                        Taken from Miata GearHead (SOLOMIATA)

                        About cam strength, taken from Miata owners who compete in SOLO events and other races. This is the information posted from testing...

                        About solid CAMS Strength;

                        "The stock 99-00 cams are actually quite strong from the factory. They will easily support higher hp levels with more lift adn duration than the 90-97 HLA cam. Mazda also makes an intake cam specifc to the home Japanese market. It has the same specs as the USA cam but the cam timing is advance a few degrees. If is part number BP5A12420. "

                        "Mazda reverted back to the solid billet design from the 1.6 instead of the hollow design of the 90-97 1.8."

                        About High lift and duration cams when using hydraulic lifters and sotck ECU;

                        "The 1.6 and 94-95 1.8 factory ECU settings are really not all that bad but they cannot recognize the substantial airflow increases needed for those HP levels (adding cams and such that take the ECU out of it's operating range can actually lower HP)."

                        I, psiturbo, highly recommend reading this website again and again. Keep it in your favorites as a means of technical reference.
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                          #57
                          DUDE, just hyde and learn...

                          Originally posted by bpt323
                          PSIturbo just feels salty balls,
                          He can't proove that it does work, & he can't proove that it doesn't work.

                          Point is this mod is extremly simple & gives greater gains for the money invested then the other basic mods. intake/exhaust/header.
                          $99 for a decent adjustable cam gear,0-$20 for an exhaust cam, you can cut the distributer drive off yourself if need be. guarunteed under $150 for 8-9WHP @ the ground is really a pretty good deal.

                          Anybody who starts reading this thread will see you were the one BRAGGING about HP gains. Everybody is waiting for your dyno chit or pics.

                          NOW you say I am the one with salty balls, just dont enjoy them so much... Actually I am starting to like how you do it, LOL

                          "Pretty much" = I got my head up my butt once and for all.

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                            #58
                            psiturbo, I'm not trying to start **** here, I'm just genuinely curious as to what you think about the proof posted by Josh (Gen1GT).

                            Well?
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                              #59
                              I'm still hoping from an explanation of WHY a change in cam timing will have anything to do with compression. Compression (static, as is the subject under discussion) occurs when the cylinder reaches TDC and the valves are closed, right?

                              Changing to the exhintake setup might change the lift and duration, but you will STILL have that period of time when the valves are closed and the contents of the cylinder are being compressed. The only way you're going to change that is by making the combustion chamber smaller. the only way to do that is to change the shape of the piston, or shave the head. Shaving the head also introduces a slight bit of timing change.

                              but in no way does a cam profile change static compression. That's just not how engines work. If it is, please explain.


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                                #60
                                ha
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