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    #16
    95-97 sephia w/ 1.8 BP only
    Escort GTR -- 11.87 @ 117.6 mph -- 320 HP / 325 Ft. Lbs. @ 23 PSI
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      #17
      bump for shawns pics..
      -Steve

      94' Protege < Worklog<SOLD!
      VF10 powered!
      262 Whp & 257 Wtq
      13.1@107

      '02 Suzuki Bandit 600s

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        #18
        lol, well then guess i need to dig those up
        "Discontent is the first necessity of progress."
        -Thomas A. Edison

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        *Junked* KLZE powered 323 on Megasquirt 1
        172.60HP & 156.93 TQ with only headers and short ram intake. back under the knife for a BPT swap.
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          #19
          here you go.

          but seriously after I pay insurance on the 6th im gonna start getting money together for the swap.
          -Steve

          94' Protege < Worklog<SOLD!
          VF10 powered!
          262 Whp & 257 Wtq
          13.1@107

          '02 Suzuki Bandit 600s

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            #20
            what is the difference between the mazda and the kia tranny

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              #21
              kia has a much beefier trans casing with added webbing. the kia has gearing thats more easier to upgrade with more options.
              ~PaTricK~


              -Current car's-
              ~ 92 Probe GT Turbo, 90 FE3 Turbo 626GT hatch, 97 KL mtx 626, 05 Mazda6, 09 Kia Sportage V6~
              What are you driving?

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                #22
                Loco R, no need to keep stating english is your second language. Its mine 2, care less if I get burned, although every now and then you get the butt hurt member because someone is doing sacrilage to "his" language, similar to learn or go home.

                Although sometimes a little search and some google check language would not hurt.

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                  #23
                  how much better is the kia trans? will it hold 400hp? what would i have to do to it to make it hold 400?

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                    #24
                    I have heard there is a pin in the diff that breaks and thats where "usually" shyt happens, it has been adviced to weld it.

                    This subject has been discussed before, anyway, a Kia tranny is gold, but to be trans break proof you got to go therieldeal trans swap.

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                      #25
                      I should get my hands on a Kia transmission and experiment a little bit. There are some differences between the Kia transmission and the EGT/Pro/323 trans, for these purposes I will refer to them as the Gen 1 trans (EGT/Pro/323) and the Gen 2 trans (Kia).

                      The first and most well known difference is the spline count on the shafts and diffs, Gen 1: 26 spline, Gen 2: 28 spline. The Jack shaft on the Gen 2 transmission is also beefier (although I find it unlikely to break one). Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the shafts and the CVs are beefier too.

                      The Gen 2 case is also beefier with more reinforcement ribs and probably several other structural changes.

                      The final drive gears are also different. The Gen 2 trans has wider gears. The pinion gear in the Gen 2 trans is too big to fit in the Gen 1 case but the ring gear (the one that's riveted to the diff) will fit. The ring gear from the Gen 2 trans is only a little bit wider than the one in the Gen 1 trans but the Gen 2 gear has larger rivet holes. This may end up being an issue if you plan on using an aftermarket diff in a Gen 1 transmission.

                      I don't know about the other aftermarket diffs but the KAAZ diff for sure is made for the Gen 2 trans because it took some finagling to get it into my Gen 1 trans. There is also at least 1 other difference because I had some trouble using the Kia jackshaft and the tripot CV on that side is totally bottomed out.
                      Last edited by ajax; 12-04-2010, 12:56 PM.
                      Loose nut behind the wheel...

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                        #26
                        besides the Kia trans being more beefy and stronger. What is the final gear ratio 5th gear compared to the protege G series trans? I find my G series in not geared very well for the highway (high speeds)

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by rustybarnard440 View Post
                          besides the Kia trans being more beefy and stronger. What is the final gear ratio 5th gear compared to the protege G series trans? I find my G series in not geared very well for the highway (high speeds)
                          I would like to know this aswell. Is it phsically stronger? I have a built GTX in my escort Lx/Gt. I am using a stock gt tranny with a stage 4 Cluthmasters clutch.
                          the pin has let go in 3 of the tranny's so far.
                          snapped two brand new axles on the joint by spindle.
                          its getting very expensive having to find a gt tranny every few months, little bas tards are hard to find where I live.

                          I would like to know if a kia will handle the power a bit more?

                          also can i use my clutch from the gt tranny?

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                            #28
                            I've heard there's no real differences between the 2 trans asides from the diff spline count...28vs the normal 26 spline Mazda has.

                            The benefit of the Kia box is being able to run the Mazdaspeed Protege LSD without having to change axles and what (MSP LSD is 28splined)

                            If you keep blowing diff pins, you need a better diff
                            -Jack

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                              #29
                              Okay i found a 97 kia tranny for 195 pluss shipping. its on the way. where do i find out more about this protege lsd diff.. what would be the exact one o need? I have never ventured into anything inside a tranny before, just wanna make sure i get the right one. also will my clutch that im using with the gt tranny, will it work fine with the kia tranny? Because I bought a used protege BP tranny and the shaft was much smaller and could not use it unless I hanged my clutch and all that good stuff. just wanna mke sure i get everything right... thankx guys

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                                #30
                                IIRC, if you get the MSP LSD you'll want one from the 2003.5 Mazdaspeed protege. I believe the earlier models had some sort of problem with the diff. Make sure to have the diff pin welded also. In fact, if you're planning to buy one new, I would suggest getting an Mfactory LSD instead. It's probably about the same price (if not cheaper) and a hell of a lot stronger.

                                You can use your clutch with the Kia trans. Not sure why it wouldn't work with the protege trans. I used my escort GT clutchmasters stage 3 with a protege trans before.
                                Before you criticize someone, first try walking a mile in their shoes. Because then you'll be a mile away, and you'll have their shoes...

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