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    Need help with workout routine

    Looking for advice. I plan on hitting the threadmill for 20-30 mins a day and maybe more as time goes on. So with that being said, I'm looking for some suggestions on weights. I plan on hitting the weights 5 day a week. I want to get cut and bigger. Me at 180-200 isn't very appealing to the eyes lol. I like being 250 just not with the rolls. I know diet is key and I'm working on that and don't need help there. I basically need help figuring out what to work on what days. I have a gym membership now so I'm learning the machines and their names so feel free to say "do xxx for 3 reps...."

    And just remember, I'm going for big so all this light weight/15 reps/3sets isn't going to work

    Oh and sundays are break days. I have 5 days to lift and 6 to jog
    Last edited by Turpro; 03-31-2010, 03:50 AM.
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    Originally posted by jay
    .....they totally underestimated the number of gearheads such as myself that have families but refuse to grow the hell up and stop playing with cars, or that otherwise see the utility of having 4 doors. Obviously I ain't alone, as there are a helluva lotta sti and evo here. Bueler? Beuler? Mazda? Mazda?

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    If you choose to go big, you'd best be prepared to maintain it for the rest of your life. otherwise, it WILL turn back to flab, and you'll be even fatter than you think you are now.

    Also, make sure that you use proper form, not only to target the muscles you're after, but to make sure that you don't over-pressure joints, spine, etc. Because that's like Driving your car at 10/10ths 100% of the time, but never changing the oil or ball joints. It'll go great for a VERY long time, but when it breaks, it will do so in a spectacular fashion.

    I personally think weight training for purely bulk and looks is equivalent to the standard Riceboy, just for the body. All show, no go. Sure, you may be able to bench 400 lbs. But why can't you unload a hay wagon for longer than 15 minutes? (personal experience on that one. Dude was supremely embarrassed, that a "scrawny" 17 year old kid (5'4", 109lbs) could out-work his ass like nobody's business, without even breathing hard.

    Before you start in on it, seriously: study what's involved so you don't wreck yourself down the road.

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      #3
      Originally posted by SgtRauksauff View Post
      If you choose to go big, you'd best be prepared to maintain it for the rest of your life. otherwise, it WILL turn back to flab, and you'll be even fatter than you think you are now.

      Also, make sure that you use proper form, not only to target the muscles you're after, but to make sure that you don't over-pressure joints, spine, etc. Because that's like Driving your car at 10/10ths 100% of the time, but never changing the oil or ball joints. It'll go great for a VERY long time, but when it breaks, it will do so in a spectacular fashion.

      I personally think weight training for purely bulk and looks is equivalent to the standard Riceboy, just for the body. All show, no go. Sure, you may be able to bench 400 lbs. But why can't you unload a hay wagon for longer than 15 minutes? (personal experience on that one. Dude was supremely embarrassed, that a "scrawny" 17 year old kid (5'4", 109lbs) could out-work his ass like nobody's business, without even breathing hard.

      Before you start in on it, seriously: study what's involved so you don't wreck yourself down the road.

      --sarge
      That is what stamina is for
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        #4
        I shouldve been more specific. After talking to shawn I relized 250@6'1" is huge...football player huge. I'd be better off 200-220 and toned. So input your advice for this lol. Also I'm getting a p90x soon. I'll take pics of me as time goes on. If it works I'll keep up with it
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        Originally posted by jay
        .....they totally underestimated the number of gearheads such as myself that have families but refuse to grow the hell up and stop playing with cars, or that otherwise see the utility of having 4 doors. Obviously I ain't alone, as there are a helluva lotta sti and evo here. Bueler? Beuler? Mazda? Mazda?

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          #5
          I've been hitting the gym for 9 years now and here are some important lessons that almost everyone gets wrong starting out:

          1. Do not lift weights 5 times a week to start out with. Especially not heavy. Start with 3-4 times a week weight lifting maximum.

          2. Do not spend more than 1 hour lifting weights. You should start with 3 sets per exercise, between 8-12 reps. Ideally a gym session should be short and to the point - 45 minutes with breaks only to drink water.

          3. You will see guys at the gym lifting big weights. Most do it wrong. Most get injured. Injuries when starting out and your tendons and supporting muscles have not developed are VERY likely. Do not overdo a weight. A full range of motion stretches, strengthens and fills out a muscle. Do less weight, and as much range of motion as possible

          4. Stretch!! Before and after. Without increasing your flexibility and warming up you will again hurt yourself. Been there more times than I can count.

          5. Work out the full body. One day, do legs and lower back. The next do chest and upper back. Spend a third doing arms. You don't want to look like a mountain upside down. A lot of bodybuilder guys forget they have something below the waist. You'd be surprised how little bicep curls do. It's best to focus on larger muscle groups such as the legs, back, chest.

          6. Olympics lifts are very very good. Squats, deadlift, clean, jerk. However they are also hard to master and very dangerous if done wrong. Have someone experienced teach you and watch you.

          7. Stay away from machines as much as possible. Unless you're injured, a guided weight does very little. Free weights develop stabilizers, tendons, overall strength

          8. Stay away from treadmills. Go run outside. You get much more out of it, breathe fresh air, your heart, lungs, and body will thank you more.

          9. Have a nutritious diet. Stay away from chemicals as much as possible. Only supplement with protein in powder form if you have to - chicken, egg whites, etc are much better. Glutamine helps recover muscles as well but don't overdo it.

          10. Find a buddy. It will keep you motivated and great friendships are developed this way.

          Once you get into a routine, you will feel the need to go to the gym. You will feel both physically and psychologically better for it. I have an office job and I go to the gym every lunch time as well as some evenings. Lunch is such a good time to do this instead of surfing the web for example. This way you don't lose time out of your day. It's best to avoid going to the gym in the evenings, especially after dinner.

          However, if you overdo it and hurt too much (you will hurt at least a little), you will not enjoy it and will give up because it is a chore. Be on a realistic routine (to fit your schedule) so you can keep it. This way you can see results - otherwise you will constantly be in the I am getting back into it mode and will always be sore. You should see results after 1-2 months.

          Remember that we are not all built like Arnold. Stay away from the drugs But also, listen to your body. If it's telling you it's too much, stop and take a break, or it will force you to do so through injury or illness (immune system takes a big hit when breaking down muscles).

          Get lots of sleep.

          Enjoy and post up your progress!
          Last edited by Lex; 03-31-2010, 04:41 PM.

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            #6
            Big and cut aren't really complimentary to one another. I would try to drop weight first, then start a weight lifting regiment focused on strength and definition. Alex has a lot of good points, but I'm not sure about stretching pre lifting. My friend was a kinesiology major, and a professor showed him studies that stretching prior to most workouts is counter productive; stretching post workout is always good to help promote blood flow to the areas worked though.
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              #7
              Originally posted by Henchman View Post
              Big and cut aren't really complimentary to one another. I would try to drop weight first, then start a weight lifting regiment focused on strength and definition. Alex has a lot of good points, but I'm not sure about stretching pre lifting. My friend was a kinesiology major, and a professor showed him studies that stretching prior to most workouts is counter productive; stretching post workout is always good to help promote blood flow to the areas worked though.
              How is this so? You can be big and cut and look great. Look at dwight howards arms. He is big and cut.
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                #8
                I have increased my weight from 150 to 195 ( I am 6'0) from just using a standard gym with no supplements whatsoever. looking big verses being strong are two different things. I can out bench and out-lift many bigger guys. I recommend doing boxing or some other intensive sport which will help you develop the best. I agree with previous posts don't be a ricer all show being huge but no go not being able to lift anything.

                goodluck with that
                btw nobodys helping me out with my dilemma with my protege! haha

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                  #9
                  I can bench 305 and can outdo a lot of people at different things. I am 5'7 and 190.
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                    #10
                    Well i'm up to 315 on the bench.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by bomdoutscort View Post
                      Well i'm up to 315 on the bench.
                      damn you

                      Ok my progressm. In the last 3 weeks I've been pretty much setting up weight amounts and researching routines. I have dropped right around 7 lbs. Not much but it feels like I've dropped 20. Even the wife says my arms look like they're getting more refined. Too me my midsection feels like it has gone down.
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                      Originally posted by jay
                      .....they totally underestimated the number of gearheads such as myself that have families but refuse to grow the hell up and stop playing with cars, or that otherwise see the utility of having 4 doors. Obviously I ain't alone, as there are a helluva lotta sti and evo here. Bueler? Beuler? Mazda? Mazda?

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                        #12
                        ^ For the midsection nothing beats high rep cardio.

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                          #13
                          not trying to jack your thread chris, but there seems to be a lot of good knowledge in this thread

                          if one can't get out during the day to work out (on lunch break or w/e), when is the second-best time to do it? i figure the options would be:
                          early AM before work
                          right after work, before dinner, 6-7pm or so
                          before bed (but allowing for a few hrs after dinner)

                          ive been wanting to start running outside, since its finally getting nice out again. also i was thinking of grabbing a cheap weight set but i'm not sure where i'd use it. my garage is dusty (dirt floor), and my basement is damp (field stone foundation). no room in the apartment... suggestions? lol
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                            #14
                            Its cool. I've heard morning time is best. I know after work I'm beat(13+hr days) and I workout after. When I get home after that I'm wide awake and its harder for me to crash.
                            1993 Protege LX-Midnight's shadow SOLD
                            1996 Honda CBR600-Wrecked. Damn Honda crippled me
                            2002 mazda MPV-family truckster SOLD
                            2010 VW routon

                            Originally posted by jay
                            .....they totally underestimated the number of gearheads such as myself that have families but refuse to grow the hell up and stop playing with cars, or that otherwise see the utility of having 4 doors. Obviously I ain't alone, as there are a helluva lotta sti and evo here. Bueler? Beuler? Mazda? Mazda?

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                              #15
                              keep us posted
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