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    #16
    Originally posted by yunvmyegt View Post
    i say theres enough forums and help for the newer gen's already, dont get off point of what this forum is. sure evolution is always going to come . but the addition of newer models here, is going to divert some of the older gen crowd that dont feel like getting lost in the new age vehicles. i just feel the older ones will become pushed off this forum eventually.... hell the oldest model we support is the bf, so keeping it bf. bg, bh,bj, and the cars those motors apply to would be better in the long run... if i want to look at newer models ill go to another forum, we dont need to be like the dozen other mazda forums that fell off the net from people trying to be to be involved in more than is needed... i know if this forum starts trying to lure in the newer cars, ill be looking for some where else to take up all my time....
    exactly!
    My family has lots of bg's!
    2003 Ford Escort ZX2: Project car/future daily driver. Built Ford Tough (With Mazda Stuff)
    1999 Escort ZX2: Daily driver/beater. Going to be replaced by the '03 next summer.
    2000 Escort ZX2 S/R: bought wrecked, going to use as parts car
    1992 Protege LX: My old race car. Just a wrecked shell right now. Waiting for scrap to go up so that I can get rid of it.
    1992 Mazda 323: Race car
    1992 Escort Gt: My grandpa's old race car
    1994 Escort GT: My grandpa's new race car.
    Parts cars; 1993 Escort Gt, 1995 Escort lx

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      #17
      IDK, it just seems like CP's days are numbered unless something changes. People are selling and moving on.
      Trends, fashion, gimmicks, fads, they're all verbs. If CP chooses to stand still then don't be surprised by what happens. Not that Protege love is any of those things but, times they do change.
      Last edited by 1st Gen; 09-11-2011, 05:59 PM.
      1991 Protege LX with GTX swap, DD
      1990 4WD Protege with GTX swap, Project/garage decoration
      2006 Mazda 3 with 2.3, Her car
      1980 Ford F100 Short bed with 300ci 6 cylinder, work truck/home for moss

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        #18
        We just need to convince mazda to start making proteges again! That would solve our problems. lol
        My family has lots of bg's!
        2003 Ford Escort ZX2: Project car/future daily driver. Built Ford Tough (With Mazda Stuff)
        1999 Escort ZX2: Daily driver/beater. Going to be replaced by the '03 next summer.
        2000 Escort ZX2 S/R: bought wrecked, going to use as parts car
        1992 Protege LX: My old race car. Just a wrecked shell right now. Waiting for scrap to go up so that I can get rid of it.
        1992 Mazda 323: Race car
        1992 Escort Gt: My grandpa's old race car
        1994 Escort GT: My grandpa's new race car.
        Parts cars; 1993 Escort Gt, 1995 Escort lx

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          #19
          i have been snooping around some other forums and they are pretty dead.. mx3.com,mazda 24/7,i mazda, and so on .. this forum has more consistent activity than most. but on the other hand. it may be a good idea to embrace some .. not all new mazda models . such as the 2 and 3. because they are a small car like the 323 and the protege.. but not let it get out of hand .
          there are lots of good people in here . let's hope they don't leave or get ousted because they buy a newer mazda such as a 2 or 3.. keep the original flavor of c.p. with a few minor changes..

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            #20
            Originally posted by 1st Gen View Post
            IDK, it just seems like CP's days are numbered unless something changes. People are selling and moving on.
            Trends, fashion, gimmicks, fads, they're all verbs. If CP chooses to stand still then don't be surprised by what happens. Not that Protege love is any of those things but, times they do change.
            and to be honest if it happens it happens. I'd hate to see it happen, but I still think we've got a good bit of life left in us. I don't think we will become a desireable classic car or anything, but the true enthusiasts that are here are here to stay. But you're always going to have people that sell thier car and get another platform. there's nothing we can do about that.
            -Steve

            94' Protege < Worklog<SOLD!
            VF10 powered!
            262 Whp & 257 Wtq
            13.1@107

            '02 Suzuki Bandit 600s

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              #21
              I think we need to stay Protege focused, but accept the newer chassis. Keep the current forums, BF/BG/BH/BJ, then just a general "Mazda3" section with the basic engine/suspension/interior/exterior subforums. We don't need all the individual Mazda3 chassis like we have for the 323/Protege

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                #22
                ^^^^^ like his idea above, also have one like that for the 2 and see how it goes. from there you can judge what the future for cp is going to be. personally i like this site. toprotege is canadian based and close to me but i almost never frequent it. this is my mazda home and want to contribute to it knowledge, althought it comes at a slow pace from me haha.
                91 protege gt. dropzone mx3 springs, mx3 crossmember, ractive front and rear strut braces, rear lower mx3 brace, 4 wheel disc brakes, corksport ss brake and clutch lines,kvr front pads, ractive cai,ram air hood scoop, modified front bumper, shaved ant and rear trunk lock, fubu ant, short shifter, corksport bronzeoil shifter bushings,92 glass sunroof and tail lights, mx3 center console, autometer gauges (volt and oil pressure) cluster needles painted to match, sound system, 17 inch eagle alloy 193 with 205 40 17 rubber. klze is ALIVE BABY!! . http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2394656http://www.toprotege.com/forums/show...hlight=project[url]

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by irishkev90 View Post
                  I think we need to stay Protege focused, but accept the newer chassis. Keep the current forums, BF/BG/BH/BJ, then just a general "Mazda3" section with the basic engine/suspension/interior/exterior subforums. We don't need all the individual Mazda3 chassis like we have for the 323/Protege
                  I like this idea also. I want CP to stay true to the old chassis, but still be able to evolve and survive.
                  Before you criticize someone, first try walking a mile in their shoes. Because then you'll be a mile away, and you'll have their shoes...

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                    #24
                    This is my main Mazda forum. I am on Mazdas247, but there's so many other models there it gets annoying trying to surf the forum. Not to generalize but most people there only care about their own chassis or car. Hell, I got laughed at for posting my BF in a current Mazda picture thread. Here I feel like we all respect each others chassis, and try to help out as much as possible, even if it's not a chassis that the person is into. I feel that if we tried to include all the newer chassis' it would become the same as Mazdas247. The exact incident happened to iMazda, and where is it now? Gone.

                    At the most, like Irishkev said, have a very small section on the 3 and 2, but keep it at that. I understand that the site might need to update in order to stay alive, but still the 323/protege should remain the key chassis here. This is literally the only forum where I can find good knowledge on my chassis, as well as good people who I would actually like meeting in person(the few I have already met, Jack, Ryan, all great guys). I would hate for all the info to get lost under the newer stuff.
                    Last edited by DeeAOne; 09-12-2011, 12:21 AM.


                    '88 323 sedan, K-swapped..

                    '03.5 Mazdaspeed Protege - miss it so much..

                    '01 Dodge Ram 3500 Cummins - 323 hauler

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                      #25
                      I come here for one reason only: I don't have to search through a million forums looking for Protege information. As far as I'm concerned similar cars should be discussed (like the Escorts and Sephias) but models which really aren't the same deserve their own forums. I'm not sure that anything post-2003 really fits here.

                      Adding more sections might appeal to more people, but, then you lose your focus and end up alienating the "true believers" so to speak. God only knows how many businesses I have worked for in the past that suck butt now because they tried to be all things to all people and lose their core focus in the meantime.
                      Last edited by smokstac; 09-12-2011, 12:22 AM.

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                        #26
                        I say keep the core B's, as well as a "current tech" section highlight innovations in the industry. Maybe some throw back something or other. Keep it simple but keep it fresh.
                        Beyond that, if someone is eager to take up the flag on a certain make or model, let em. Other wise keep it simple but keep it fresh.
                        1991 Protege LX with GTX swap, DD
                        1990 4WD Protege with GTX swap, Project/garage decoration
                        2006 Mazda 3 with 2.3, Her car
                        1980 Ford F100 Short bed with 300ci 6 cylinder, work truck/home for moss

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                          #27
                          I agree that Mazdas24/7 is where the newer gen cars are favored. Yes, they have a first and second gen Protege section, but it's literally dead. I have tried to revive it by posting in years old threads just get some attention, but not even a "stop bumping dead threads" reply happened. This is where Proteges take center stage. I also think a "Modern/New Technology" section would be appropriate, especially considering Mazda's release of its SkyActiv Technologies. I forgot about the Mazda2, but I think it should have its own section as well depending on the demand.

                          Back to Mazdas24/7, I didn't include the third gen Proteges because they have a slightly stronger following there than the other chassis. Mainly because of the MSP, MP3 and P5 versions. I'm sure once that section dies down, people will need a new place to live and, therefore, will end up here.

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                            #28
                            24/7 is a useless forum IMO

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by BRIAN MP5T View Post
                              24/7 is a useless forum IMO
                              Agreed. It's a general Mazda forum, not an enthusiast site. I feel no sense of community when I go there. There's a different group of people here. The members of ClubProtege love working on their cars and are willing to go through hell to fit a different transmission or engine or even bumper. Mazdas24/7 gives me the feeling that if it can't just be bolted on, they want nothing to do with it.

                              I remember a guy parting out an MP3 and I asked about the bumpers and side skirts for my car, knowing they would need cutting and fitting to make the lips work on my bumpers, but I was willing to try it. Someone else replied, saying they wouldn't fit and I shouldn't bother even trying on my car. There's absolutely no support for anything "do it yourself" over there.

                              I think I got a little carried away, but my point is, we should keep this an enthusiast forum. Too much and we lose that focus and that feeling of community and fellowship. I've only met one member in person, yet I feel like I've known some of you for years. I love the support here and I don't want to see it diluted by people who don't fully love their cars and their own hard work like we do here.

                              As stated before, a few new section should be added to keep things fresh:
                              -Mazda3 (no individual chassis subforums, though)
                              -Mazda2 (again, no idividual chassis)
                              -Modern/Next Generation Technology (showcasing Mazda's new SkyActiv products, technical discussions, rotary, hybrid, etc.)

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                                #30
                                Hmmm! So what about we folk who both own a 3rd Gen Protege and, in my case, maintain and co-drive my wife's 1st Gen 3. Maybe someday I'll buy a 3 myself, even (horrors), a 2nd Gen 3. Gosh, the 1st Gen 3s are already kaput and out of production, just like the BJs. Funny, the reason I suggested my wife buy a 3 was because of my great experience with my own Protege (which was the first Mazda I ever owned), and because I saw it as the natural successor to the no-longer available BJ. As far as I'm concerned, the 3 is as much an enthusiasts car as any of the Proteges. But of course, I could be wrong.

                                But, oh well, from the way the poll is running I better get busy and start searching for a reliable 3 Forum just in case, should that day ever come. Forewarned is forearmed and better to be safe than sorry.
                                02 DX Millenium Red - The Penultimate Driving Machine
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                                Kartboy Stabilizer Bar Bushings; Nyloil Shifter Bushings; Red Line MT-90 Gear Oil
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