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    Racing harness without racing seats?

    Sup peeps, the guy before me looks like he had intetions on putting a racing harness into my car but theres no way of finding out because he passed away. I was wondering if it was possible to put a racing harness with these seats. He has brackets on 3 corners of the seats/frame. If your the driver he has one on the back bottom left, back bottom right, and to the left of your head is a bracket.

    It seems like he was going to use these seats because on the passanger side he has a bracket attached to the seat. I know theres the issue of your sholders slipping through because of no thru holes in the seats. I don't know of other mounting methods, anyone wanna give me a heads up with this setup?

    1994 lx turbo in the works
    1991 lx gtx swap---> sold
    1992 lx turbo ---> deceased/rebuilt/deceased
    1992 Ford escort gt ----> sold

    #2
    Don't do it. It's not safe at all to use harnesses with a seat that isn't designed to utilize them. You already have a roll bar with a harness bar installed, so that helps, but I personally wouldn't feel safe using the stock seats. Here's a good explanation that I found searching.

    Harnesses, Bucket/One-piece seats, and Rollbars/Cages are meant to be used together!

    If you are asking about using a harness and/or bucket seat WITHOUT rollover protection, you will be immediately directed here. The short explanation:
    -The stock system (3-point seatbelt, reclining seat, no rollbar) is designed to work AS a "system." In the event of a rollover, the 3-point belt allows your body to fold over, and the reclining seat can "break" at the hinge (also allowing your body to move), thus preventing you from getting crushed.
    -The "race" system (for lack of a better term; harness, one-piece seat, rollbar/cage) is also designed to work AS a "system." In the event of a rollover, the harness and seat will keep you upright, but the rollbar/cage will be there to keep the roof from crushing you.
    -If you use the harness and/or seat without a rollbar, a rollover can result in the roof coming down on you while you are held upright. Think of stepping on a soda can, and relate that to what can happen to your spine. That doesn't mean it WILL happen, but honestly, why take that chance? It's your damn SPINE we're talking about. When I dig them up, I'll post pics of rollovers so everyone has a clear idea of how bad that can be.
    -If you use a rollbar/cage with the stock reclining seat, ANY collision CAN result in the seat contacting or going under the harness bar, which could then result in your head contacting that same harness bar. Generally, head-metal tubing contact is bad, whether you're wearing a helmet or not (but especially bad if you're not). Again, that doesn't mean it WILL happen, only that it can.
    -The "Correct" or "Smart" way of doing this is to put these things in your car AS a system. Don't have enough money to buy them all at once? No problem. Either set the money aside until you do, or buy them piecemeal and leave them out of the car until you have all the components. Some organizations now require all of these things to be present as a system, or else you have to remain completely stock. For competitive racing, the entire "race" system must be present.

    Buy some inexpensive fixed-back racing seats and call it done. These are decent and inexpensive. http://www.epmiata.com/store/SafetySeating/COR2950.html
    Last edited by ThatGreenBG; 05-06-2013, 08:41 PM.
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      #3
      Hey thanks that explains a lot....
      New seats it is... I started putting in the stockie belts to get past inspection for now.

      1994 lx turbo in the works
      1991 lx gtx swap---> sold
      1992 lx turbo ---> deceased/rebuilt/deceased
      1992 Ford escort gt ----> sold

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