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    General questions and discussion - '87 323 SL

    I thought I'd rather create a single thread where I can ask questions about my car. I already have a log on another site (not viewable by people who are not registered though), but people there don't really have much knowledge about the 323.

    Anyway, as a first question, can someone shed some light on the pinstriping, preferably for the South African SL? I do know when my mother bought the car used in '89 it had 2mm black/red/black stripes on the sides, and I've since put the red back in. I'm not sure if it should be like that, but the SL does appear to be a sport model (E5 engine, rev counter, red stripes in seats), and someone else also told me that it's a sport model. I'm also trying to figure out if the pinstriping should also be on the hatch, but so far I've been unable to get much info on that. I did find an article/ad about a GTX which had wrap-around pinstriping, but that's all I could find.

    Also, regarding the badges, should the SL (next to the MAZDA323) be chrome? I've been told by some people that it should be red, but others said chrome.

    And finally, here's a picture from a recent show:

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    '87 Mazda 323 SL - daily driver, backup show car (being restored as I get time)
    '82 BMW 518i (E12/8) with 32/34 Weber and Simota cone - old show car (stolen)
    '70 VW 411L Auto - show/restoration project to replace 518i - sold
    '99 BMW Z3 2.8 Roadster - show project

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    Should I try to get those red stripes put in the leather front seats (stitching, and also rear when I get that done)? Or should I stick to plain vinyl? Also, I noticed that some 323s have a Mazda badge on the dashboard. Did some models come from the factory like that, or were those badges added later? On that note, I also have a nice rear Mazda badge that I bought to replace the old one, but then I noticed the new one is small, while my car has the larger variant. So I suppose I'll have to keep looking.

    Oh, and I do have that speaker cover, it just didn't fit over the speaker so it's lying in a box (the left one fits perfectly though).
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    '70 VW 411L Auto - show/restoration project to replace 518i - sold
    '99 BMW Z3 2.8 Roadster - show project

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    '87 Mazda 323 SL - daily driver, backup show car (being restored as I get time)
    '82 BMW 518i (E12/8) with 32/34 Weber and Simota cone - old show car (stolen)
    '70 VW 411L Auto - show/restoration project to replace 518i - sold
    '99 BMW Z3 2.8 Roadster - show project

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    I noticed that I haven't received answers on the previous questions, is it due to a lack of knowledge on the SL?

    Anyway, I have another question in case somebody can give some insight. I'm planning to paint the bumpers soon, since the current paint is peeling badly in places, and now I'm wondering. Should I use plastic primer, or something else? The issue is I'm not sure what these old pre-facelift bumpers are made of, but I'm assuming it's just a hard plastic.

    And regarding my previous questions, I phoned the nearest dealer today, and only got a photo of a generic '85 Familia/323 poster (poor quality, but it's a 2-door with a large sticker where the rear door would've been, and a bottom spoiler). So no luck there. Then I phoned the customer service number of Mazda South Africa, and got an email address of someone who might be able to help. So now I have to wait for an answer.

    EDIT: Not a Mazda, but this is what I'm doing with rattle cans:

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    '87 Mazda 323 SL - daily driver, backup show car (being restored as I get time)
    '82 BMW 518i (E12/8) with 32/34 Weber and Simota cone - old show car (stolen)
    '70 VW 411L Auto - show/restoration project to replace 518i - sold
    '99 BMW Z3 2.8 Roadster - show project

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    I'm not an expert at reading plugs, can someone perhaps look at this?

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    I would have pulled all 4, but it looks like that cylinder is cross-threaded and I didn't want to take chances on the others (the car runs fine now though).
    '87 Mazda 323 SL - daily driver, backup show car (being restored as I get time)
    '82 BMW 518i (E12/8) with 32/34 Weber and Simota cone - old show car (stolen)
    '70 VW 411L Auto - show/restoration project to replace 518i - sold
    '99 BMW Z3 2.8 Roadster - show project

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    if the plugs didn't have oil surrounding them from the top when you pulled them,then you have oil consumption issues on that cylinder. and could also serve to lean it out a bit
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    Thanks. I'm aware that the car slowly loses oil (normal loss should be one 500ml bottle every few thousand km, sometimes it'll lose almost all the oil on the dipstick between petrol refills, still trying to figure that part out). There's a slight leak at the distributor, but that's it. And no oil outside around that plug. I've been told that the rings might be a bit tired, but with those plug holes I'd rather not try to stick a compression tester in (I wanted to do it).

    Do you have any idea how severe it is, going by that plug? Regarding the reason for pulling the plug, I've been getting vibration recently and I'm trying to find the cause.

    EDIT: It does have 293k km on the clock though, almost all of it short distances.
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    '87 Mazda 323 SL - daily driver, backup show car (being restored as I get time)
    '82 BMW 518i (E12/8) with 32/34 Weber and Simota cone - old show car (stolen)
    '70 VW 411L Auto - show/restoration project to replace 518i - sold
    '99 BMW Z3 2.8 Roadster - show project

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