WilyB's 93 GT rebuild

[FE3-323]

****in sexy!!! glad to see another set being put to good use. your going to love those!

[Wilyb]

I have a question...I haven't read much on Megasquirt, but I think that MS does not support EGR... Since my car is ripped apart again, I'm going to redo all lines front to back.

Should I bother installing an EGR line?

If I remove it, I need to block the line at the filler neck or at the check cut valve. Is there anything else I should do regarding gas tank pressure etc?

Is this the way to go?

[FE3-323]

since when to BG's have EGR?????

[MazdaNoob]

confusing egr with the evap system .
EGR= exhaust gas recirculation
as far as the evap system goes... depends on where you plan on getting emissions tested

[Wilyb]

lol... yeah, yeah evap system...I thought that was what EGR meant... ANYWAYS>>>>>back to the question... although I don't need to pass emissions I personally want to keep that stuff. And I think when the car reaches 20 years old, it doesn't require emission testing. Is this what MS doesn't support?

The EVAP is controlled electronically (I think)...

BTW did you ever hear the expression " there are no stupid questions; just stupid answers"...lol...more to come!!

[FE3-323]

if you keep it. the system needs a check valve so it does not see boost pressure & pressurize the gas tank.

[DuRWooD]

lol... yeah, yeah evap system...I thought that was what EGR meant... ANYWAYS>>>>>back to the question... although I don't need to pass emissions I personally want to keep that stuff. And I think when the car reaches 20 years old, it doesn't require emission testing. Is this what MS doesn't support?

The EVAP is controlled electronically (I think)...

BTW did you ever hear the expression " there are no stupid questions; just stupid answers"...lol...more to come!!

You may not need emissions testing now, but it is probably coming to your area in a year or so when the Ontario law changes again slightly. Also, they did away with the 20 year rule a while ago; anything '88 and newer has to be tested, '87 and older is grandfathered. With the new law coming in 2013, you only have to pass a 2 speed idle test if you're OBDI. So MS will be able to pass on OBDI cars.

[Mazda_Powered]

Yep, or if you have an engine swap done outside of it's chassis range you can get a hot rod status for it from the dealership to help your chances at passing emissions testing...at least in Ontario it is. Doesn't affect out insurance either lol

Also that EVAP crap is just...well crap lol, I got rid of most of mine and I personally do not smell fuel on hot days.

[DuRWooD]

I tried for a hotrod status before. The car would have to have documents proving it received the engine swap prior to Jan 1 1999.

[Mazda_Powered]

(2) A hot rod that receives a motor replacement on or after January 1, 1999, shall receive a motor designed to meet emission standards at least as stringent as those achieved by the original motor with all its original emission control equipment attached and functioning, and the replacement motor shall have the original catalytic converter and all the original emission control equipment, or equivalent replacements, included or usually included with the replacement motor by the manufacturer of the motor. O. Reg. 361/98, s. 4 (2); O. Reg. 86/99, s. 3.

[FE3-323]

in all honesty. id almost be willing to put money down that an emissions testing facility wouldn't know the difference between a BP & a FE3. they appear nearly identical short of the intake manifold- merely pulling the factory sticker off if it says 2.0 on it should be sufficient

[DuRWooD]

(2) A hot rod that receives a motor replacement on or after January 1, 1999, shall receive a motor designed to meet emission standards at least as stringent as those achieved by the original motor with all its original emission control equipment attached and functioning, and the replacement motor shall have the original catalytic converter and all the original emission control equipment, or equivalent replacements, included or usually included with the replacement motor by the manufacturer of the motor. O. Reg. 361/98, s. 4 (2); O. Reg. 86/99, s. 3.

That's exactly my point, the only thing my P5 got as far as "hot rod" status was it said 2.5L V6 on the emissions sheet, I had to meet the original P5 emissions requirements.

Sorry for going so far off topic, I just don't want you to be misinformed about legalities. If you ever have to get the FE3 tested, I'd probably not even mention it. Also, if you get pulled over in Toronto for instance, and they pop your hood and see anything emissions wise missing, you will get fined.

[Mazda_Powered]

ya it's pretty stupid! i remember when it was in our favor lol /rant

[jumpncrash]

He's in Quebec guys, we have no emissions testing of any sort, global warming is a myth.

[Wilyb]

Vive le quebec!!!