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    lovely work! u all never stop do you!

    i cant believe i missed this

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      Both westpalmgt and hppdwn are making 350+ hp on stock pressure plates (clamp force and size specs for the V6 are comparible) and a 6 puck. My guess would be puck material defect or uneven mating surface. Though its just speculation till its apart.
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      *Junked* 92 mx3, BP swap- milage whore, beaten up and down the east coast
      *Junked* KLZE powered 323 on Megasquirt 1
      172.60HP & 156.93 TQ with only headers and short ram intake. back under the knife for a BPT swap.
      New Daily stock 1.6L 1999 Mazda Protege LX

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        i told him to use a v6 pressure plate and upgrade it, he told me 1800 pounds. the puck material looked fine, and the fw was resurfaced at the same shop i always use (he does great work).

        so idfk
        Escort GTR -- 11.87 @ 117.6 mph -- 320 HP / 325 Ft. Lbs. @ 23 PSI
        ... The first FWD BG with a Toyota E153 transmission conversion in the USA!
        Looking for BP x Toyota E153 adapter plates? PM me or contact me on Facebook: Riel Performance Parts

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          When you had the flywheel ground did you have it done for the V6 specs? or stock specs?

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            Originally posted by crazycanadian View Post
            When you had the flywheel ground did you have it done for the V6 specs? or stock specs?
            the step height is the same, the V6 disc has been an upgrade for us for awhile due to its matching all our specs but being ~10mm bigger
            "Discontent is the first necessity of progress."
            -Thomas A. Edison

            "There is a fine line between ballin' on a budget, and dreamin' on an empty wallet."


            *Junked* 92 mx3, BP swap- milage whore, beaten up and down the east coast
            *Junked* KLZE powered 323 on Megasquirt 1
            172.60HP & 156.93 TQ with only headers and short ram intake. back under the knife for a BPT swap.
            New Daily stock 1.6L 1999 Mazda Protege LX

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              My ACT clutch needed some time to bed in, it slipped like crazy in the top 4 gears. Not wanting to go back into the !&^)(*%)*&#R_(&^)(*ing car again, I let it ride for a while. Pretty soon I had 3rd, then 4th, then after almost a month, it gripped solid and hasn't had a problem since. This is not normal, and we quickly realized that it was caused by oil getting on the disc when the rear mainseal let go. Although we ran all the parts through the washer when we redid that job, oil musta gotten into the friction material, just enough to make it slip for a while...got lucky and it's still fine a year later. If there's even the slightest chance your disc got oily at any point, maybe that's why it's slipping, and maybe it'll come back.









              or maybe you're screwed and you need a better clutch...
              '90 AWD Protege, full GTR drivetrain swap, ~320 whp daily driver, RIP, and
              '90 AWD Protege, yet another GTR swap, Open class rallycar with a Toyota GT4 gearbox swap, thus crossing the line between hobby and mental illness. And a Brabus E55 K8, removing all doubt.
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                there is no way that it got oily, the engine and trans are both fresh and clean... no oil leaks anywhere. i hosed it all down with brake cleaner, let it dry, and put it together.

                i believe i have figured out a (somewhat expensive) backup plan, if this guy cant make it right.
                Escort GTR -- 11.87 @ 117.6 mph -- 320 HP / 325 Ft. Lbs. @ 23 PSI
                ... The first FWD BG with a Toyota E153 transmission conversion in the USA!
                Looking for BP x Toyota E153 adapter plates? PM me or contact me on Facebook: Riel Performance Parts

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                  Smoke that sucker. Get it good and hot. Maybe that will make it happier.

                  Buddy had to do that with his blown Z28 never slipped after that.

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                    just talked to the clutch guy. he's having a 2200# pressure plate drop shipped to me, and making another disc (all at no charge for now). he said we'll figure it all out once i get the new clutch installed and working.

                    i'm not sure how comfortable i am with "smoking" the clutch lol. if i destroy it he's not gonna be too happy when i send it back to him.
                    Last edited by therieldeal; 10-05-2009, 07:37 AM.
                    Escort GTR -- 11.87 @ 117.6 mph -- 320 HP / 325 Ft. Lbs. @ 23 PSI
                    ... The first FWD BG with a Toyota E153 transmission conversion in the USA!
                    Looking for BP x Toyota E153 adapter plates? PM me or contact me on Facebook: Riel Performance Parts

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                      well after talking to him i finally found an application that will work. if his clutch sucks again i'll just go ACT. if his works it will be a much better deal. i'll be sure to let everyone know.

                      ACT 6 puck sprung hub = part number 6224207
                      ACT performance organic = part number 3000603

                      plus your stock BP flywheel and whatever pressure plate you want
                      Escort GTR -- 11.87 @ 117.6 mph -- 320 HP / 325 Ft. Lbs. @ 23 PSI
                      ... The first FWD BG with a Toyota E153 transmission conversion in the USA!
                      Looking for BP x Toyota E153 adapter plates? PM me or contact me on Facebook: Riel Performance Parts

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                        just a dumb question but did they ship it to you in cosmoline grease? I have heard of companies doing that to prevent the metal parts from rusting, and once it sets in it takes some time to "burn" down the affected areas.
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                        1990 Protege 4WD 5 Speed

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                          I know you probably said it one of the first hundred pages of this thread, but what clutch are you using now?

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                            it is a custom made unit from Kentucky Clutch

                            "1800 pound" pressure plate and custom sprung hub 6 puck disc

                            it had a light coating of oil on it just like all pressure plates but like i said i hosed it down with brake cleaner. no oil on this thing.
                            Escort GTR -- 11.87 @ 117.6 mph -- 320 HP / 325 Ft. Lbs. @ 23 PSI
                            ... The first FWD BG with a Toyota E153 transmission conversion in the USA!
                            Looking for BP x Toyota E153 adapter plates? PM me or contact me on Facebook: Riel Performance Parts

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                              whats the stock pressure plate rated on on the toyota this goes on, maybe it just needs a heavier one due to the added weight? i just did my stage 3 clutch and lite flywheel, i already sorta want a harder pressure plate...lol...i can see thatll be getting replaced again when ever i do something with the lower end over winter....
                              92 protege lx-

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                                so i lucked out, the machine shop was able to salvage the lightened stock flywheel that was in the car last year (the spec 3+ disc ate it up pretty badly).

                                the trans isnt THAT much heavier... maybe 100 pounds at the most counting all the heavy duty mount brackets etc. so its the equivalent of having a skinny bitch in the passenger seat... not going to affect the clutch lol
                                Last edited by therieldeal; 10-05-2009, 11:41 AM.
                                Escort GTR -- 11.87 @ 117.6 mph -- 320 HP / 325 Ft. Lbs. @ 23 PSI
                                ... The first FWD BG with a Toyota E153 transmission conversion in the USA!
                                Looking for BP x Toyota E153 adapter plates? PM me or contact me on Facebook: Riel Performance Parts

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