Concealer404's KLZEscort thread

[Mazda_Powered]

nice! that's a hell of an update man haha, great to see some progress though! fyi your centric premium rotor pic is a duplicate of the master cylinder lol

[concealer404]

Heh, caught that, too. It's fixed!

At this point, i'm shooting for an end of May completion date. Little later than i initially thought, but i'd rather make sure i get ALL the right parts, quality parts, and only have to do the work once.

The only big ticket items left are the seats, tires, flywheel, and gauge setup. :D

[Turpro]

Nice update. Coming together fast

[concealer404]

Figured i'd ask here because you guys rock. :D

/brown-nosing.


Anyways... shopping for headers right now. Here's my questions:

1) Can i use a true KLZE ECU with my MX3 wiring harness? Or do i have to get a chipped ECU?

2) How many o2 sensors does the KLZE need in order to not throw CELs and run right?


The reason i ask #2 is because i'll be running a wideband. And if i can just install the wideband into an existing bung on the headers, that'd be cool. If i have to get a bung welded in, that works, too, i'd just rather not.

I suppose i could just get the wideband to simulate narrowband o2 readings like the Innovate i have on the MX6 does, but i'm trying to avoid that, and it would hinge on the answer to #2.

[Mazda_Powered]

KLZE ECUs should be plug and play for the mx-3 harness, you will need to run the mx-3 MAF (JE50) since that's what the KLZE ECU runs.

I know there's a control unit people are running in the KLs to eliminate the o2 sensors...you'll probably have to check probetalk or mx6.com about that though. Asides from that, they're supposed to run 2 o2 sensors to run properly.

[concealer404]

Thanks Jack!

So basically... i need to decide now if i want to run the dual o2 sensor headers and weld a bung, or run the obd2 california headers...

Glad i've already got a JE50 on the MX3. :D

[Mazda_Powered]

what headers are you going with? the ebay specials? pacesetters are my personal favorites lol

[concealer404]

what headers are you going with? the ebay specials? pacesetters are my personal favorites lol

I've heard the Pacesetters sound like crap.... and i can afford to give up a few horsies...

Unless you have a source for cheap ones?

[atomicEGT]

too bad Warpspeed doesn't make any for the KL, the ones I had for my Max were pretty awesome

[Mazda_Powered]

I like pacesetters, give off a deeper tone, but if you don't use a resonator, yea it'll be raspy. The ebay headers don't sound the best either in my mind, too high pitch.

[concealer404]

The Probe guys say the Pacesetters sound like crap because they're unequal length i guess.


I have a resonator... i'm hacking up a Corksport Power Series exhaust for this build.

I think in the end at this point, i'll just get what i can find for cheap. Either way, it'll sound interesting, and i don't think power will be an issue. Unless, of course, someone can convince me one way or the other.

[CODY004WD]

Just got my KL headers today. $108 shipped, cheapest ones on Ebay. So far they appear to be great! Pics in a few minutes.

[CODY004WD]

I am also using a hacked up CS power series! $30 at the JY FTW! I am going to ditch the CS muffler for the ZX2 S/R Borla, which can be opened on the inlet to 2.5" and already has a 2.5 outlet. I will be cutting off the tip though... yuck, I'll replace it w/ plain 2.5 stainless exhaust pipe, maybe w/ a turndown? Here:

[Mazda_Powered]

wow $108 is dirt cheap! I wish I could pay that little to Canada haha, I think the cheapest to Canada I've see is around $160

[CODY004WD]

Yeah, I've gotten pretty lucky with this build so far. I have been getting hella deals on most everything, which is good, because this is my secondary project, and I am trying to save $ for my wagon's next incarnation. Enough OT.

Concealer- FWIW, these headers are pretty decent, very impressed actually, they are gasket matched at every flange, and appear to have been tested for leaks. They came w/ all necessary stainless hardware (except header to head) and every gasket. I know that's all pretty much a given with more expesive kits, but for this price you never know. The welds all look good, and I see no real flaws, other than unequal primaries. I would probably reccomend them, but obviously I haven't installed or heard them yet.