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    JDM BP whats different

    ok, after much financial (SP!) ups, and downs . im starting to level out and looking to begine the BP swap. i mailed out a money order for the ECU today to bugs, (my stupid as bank locked my account saying i need a different type of acoount for internet purchases). no my real question, i've noticed there is always the same company selling the JDM BP on e-bay http://www.wihandyman.com/forum/newt...newthread&f=12
    is there any differences to the BP besides intake mani and the valve cover?
    i know theres a guy around in the forum that has one , but for the life of me i cant find him! any imput on this will be much, much appreciated.
    "Discontent is the first necessity of progress."
    -Thomas A. Edison

    "There is a fine line between ballin' on a budget, and dreamin' on an empty wallet."


    *Junked* 92 mx3, BP swap- milage whore, beaten up and down the east coast
    *Junked* KLZE powered 323 on Megasquirt 1
    172.60HP & 156.93 TQ with only headers and short ram intake. back under the knife for a BPT swap.
    New Daily stock 1.6L 1999 Mazda Protege LX
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    #2
    It's s 2nd gen BP.

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      #3
      hmm.. if i remember correctly it list 90-94 on the auction, lemme guess id need an obdII harness to run it

      EDIT: i found 2 listings for this motor 90-94 and 95-98


      if i change the intake mani and the sensors it should technically work, or is this a pipe dream?
      Last edited by MD323; 06-10-2005, 12:52 PM.
      "Discontent is the first necessity of progress."
      -Thomas A. Edison

      "There is a fine line between ballin' on a budget, and dreamin' on an empty wallet."


      *Junked* 92 mx3, BP swap- milage whore, beaten up and down the east coast
      *Junked* KLZE powered 323 on Megasquirt 1
      172.60HP & 156.93 TQ with only headers and short ram intake. back under the knife for a BPT swap.
      New Daily stock 1.6L 1999 Mazda Protege LX

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        #4
        Better keep it straight forward and follow the well-known path. Get a 1st gen BP.

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          #5
          well after picking away at your swap thread(thanks for all the awsome pics by the way) i found the bpo5 engine code stamped on it, now im gonna do some more research when i get home but unless they changed any of the internals i should be able to yank the int, ext mani's distributor and such from a first gen and be good to go.

          now the only reason im considering this is because i cant find a low mile first gen BP and this would be cheaper than a rebuild

          any other opinions out there?
          "Discontent is the first necessity of progress."
          -Thomas A. Edison

          "There is a fine line between ballin' on a budget, and dreamin' on an empty wallet."


          *Junked* 92 mx3, BP swap- milage whore, beaten up and down the east coast
          *Junked* KLZE powered 323 on Megasquirt 1
          172.60HP & 156.93 TQ with only headers and short ram intake. back under the knife for a BPT swap.
          New Daily stock 1.6L 1999 Mazda Protege LX

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            #6
            Have you looked at this thread? http://www.wihandyman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16408

            The author of that thread did not go into details relating to how he is running that engine. I don't know if he's using a 1st gen ECU or a 2nd gen ECU.

            But what I can tell from that thread is that the 2nd gen intake manifold is better than the 1st gen one, and that if you get a 97+ BP you will have solid lifters.
            Last edited by Intruder; 06-11-2005, 03:42 AM.

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              #7
              THATS him!
              "i know theres a guy around in the forum that has one , but for the life of me i cant find him!"

              thnx for the link, he's running a megasquirt stand alone, so the point is mute, i have found a gen comparison that im picking through plus i hope to find a gen 2 in the j/y to pick apart and compare
              "Discontent is the first necessity of progress."
              -Thomas A. Edison

              "There is a fine line between ballin' on a budget, and dreamin' on an empty wallet."


              *Junked* 92 mx3, BP swap- milage whore, beaten up and down the east coast
              *Junked* KLZE powered 323 on Megasquirt 1
              172.60HP & 156.93 TQ with only headers and short ram intake. back under the knife for a BPT swap.
              New Daily stock 1.6L 1999 Mazda Protege LX

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                #8
                excellent, well good luck on the swap, and take plenty of pictures along the way.
                The T3 BP MX-3 conversion has begun, and is taking forever & will kill me.

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                  #9
                  no doubt, man considering after all the searching i did and not turning up anything close to this swap. It would be selfish not to.
                  BTW is that a NSX behind you in your sig?
                  "Discontent is the first necessity of progress."
                  -Thomas A. Edison

                  "There is a fine line between ballin' on a budget, and dreamin' on an empty wallet."


                  *Junked* 92 mx3, BP swap- milage whore, beaten up and down the east coast
                  *Junked* KLZE powered 323 on Megasquirt 1
                  172.60HP & 156.93 TQ with only headers and short ram intake. back under the knife for a BPT swap.
                  New Daily stock 1.6L 1999 Mazda Protege LX

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by MD323
                    BTW is that a NSX behind you in your sig?
                    It sure is.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Intruder
                      It sure is.

                      "Discontent is the first necessity of progress."
                      -Thomas A. Edison

                      "There is a fine line between ballin' on a budget, and dreamin' on an empty wallet."


                      *Junked* 92 mx3, BP swap- milage whore, beaten up and down the east coast
                      *Junked* KLZE powered 323 on Megasquirt 1
                      172.60HP & 156.93 TQ with only headers and short ram intake. back under the knife for a BPT swap.
                      New Daily stock 1.6L 1999 Mazda Protege LX

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                        #12
                        his sn is Pirana off the MSprotege.com board.... he is a local along with quite a few other 3rd gen guys... I am really the black sheep of the group seeing as I am the only 1st gen aside from the seafoam green one 6 cars down on the left side. (He doesnt post here, and wont join, trust me I have tried)

                        The rest are really nice guys. The 6th car down on the right is owned by TXMazdaspeed on here... its a z5, but its still a nice car. He also owns the blue 3rd gen on the other side of the 2nd gen.
                        The T3 BP MX-3 conversion has begun, and is taking forever & will kill me.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by MD323
                          ...he's running a megasquirt stand alone, so the point is mute, i have found a gen comparison that im picking through plus i hope to find a gen 2 in the j/y to pick apart and compare
                          why does running megasquirt make the point moot? It only cost about $150 and it's a hell of a lot better than the VAF our cars came stock with IMHO.
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by lscrx
                            why does running megasquirt make the point moot? It only cost about $150 and it's a hell of a lot better than the VAF our cars came stock with IMHO.
                            im reffering to placing a a obdII engine in a OBDI car using the stock harness
                            and was hoping he had done the same, but since he's using a stand alone the point is moot(yeah english is not my strong point ).

                            im still gonna try it out still on the list to buy:
                            motor
                            tranny
                            gen 1 intake
                            gen 1 exhaust
                            ECU-in proccess
                            "Discontent is the first necessity of progress."
                            -Thomas A. Edison

                            "There is a fine line between ballin' on a budget, and dreamin' on an empty wallet."


                            *Junked* 92 mx3, BP swap- milage whore, beaten up and down the east coast
                            *Junked* KLZE powered 323 on Megasquirt 1
                            172.60HP & 156.93 TQ with only headers and short ram intake. back under the knife for a BPT swap.
                            New Daily stock 1.6L 1999 Mazda Protege LX

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