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    What is the longest 5th gear i can get in a G

    I have a g series tranny and i need a longer 5th gear. 4 Grand at 80mph isnt cutting it. What is the longest gear i can get?
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    #2
    Get taller tires?

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      #3
      I think the f-series trannys have a lower 5th gear ratio...i could be wrong
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        #4
        4.83 from a 626 or MX6.

        Or you can get a new one direct from MSM or a Mazda dealer.

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          #5
          SOHC 1.8l DX/SE protege has a 5th gear that might fit, its said to fit anyhow.
          the 323 5th gear does not.
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            #6
            mazdaracer can u explain further, i dont know much about final gear ratios. i do know that 5th in a G is .795. What is it in the 626 or mx6?

            I also heard maybe ZX2 gears fit in a G box?
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              #7
              sorry my bad, i miss informed. I also misunderstood and thought you were looking for a final drive, but your looking for an actual 5th gear. Here is a quote from Gro Harlem for final drive info, hope this somewhat helps.

              Although, i was sure my local race buddy used a 626 final drive to reduce 5th gear RPMs on his EGT.

              ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:

              FYI for those who are out of the know....the list below details the G-series mazda gear box:

              Cars with 4.39 final drive:
              -92-96 MX-3 GS with 1.8 V6
              -93-97 Ford Probe GT

              Cars with 4.11 Final drive:
              -90-94 Mazda Protege LX (1.8 dohc)
              -95 Protege ES
              -93-97 Mazda 626 and MX-6 (both 4cyl and 6cyl
              -98-02 Mazda 626 (all models)
              -01-03.5 Protege (all with 2.0 engines)
              -91-94 Mercury Capri (all) note, these all have a cable operated clutch (which doesn't really matter if ur just taking the gears)
              -91-96 Ford Escort GT or LX-E (with 1.8 dohc)
              -91-96 Mercury Tracer LTS (with 1.8 dohc)
              -97-Present Ford Escort & ZX2 (ALL MODELS, either 2.0 SPI or Zetec...all have a G-series gear box)

              Cars with a different final drive:
              -Ford Escape & Mazda Tribute (have like a 4.5x final drive...b/c they are trucks and use large diameter tires). dunno why the hell you'd want such a huge final drive.

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                #8
                The G5MX-R found on 4wd models (1.8sohc and gtx ) has 0.717:1 ratio
                The G25m-r on Diesel proteges (hard to find) has 0.680:1 ( and a 4th of 0.860:1)
                The GT-Ae gearbox has 0.717:1
                The F5M-R has 0.731:1. If you find it on a b8-me engine (1.8sohc) it has a final drive of 3.619:1
                Some F25M-Rs have also 3.619:1 final drive and 0.775:1 5th gear ratio

                With all those different options and the fact that it's difficult to understand which gearbox you have in front of you when you buy from a junkyard, the only thing that you can do is guess.

                (info from http://web2.airmail.net/theman/protegefaq/ )

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                  #9
                  hmm basicly i want to be sitting at 2 to 3 grand rather than 4 going 80
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                    #10
                    I'm not going to garuntee you that it will work, but 99.5 and up ZX2s used a .717 fifth, and certain MX6s did as well, though there's only a handful (5 pairs I believe) of the 626 part left in the country, it definately does fit a DOHC G box, but I'm pretty sure the ZX2 parts will fit as well, I should have more on this in a few weeks, I have a 98 ZX2 with the .75 fifth and I'm probably going to swap it with the .717 i put in the EGT as I daily drive the zx2 and any gas milage i can get is worth some effort.
                    -Mike
                    06 Taurus SEL/92 Escort GT/93 RX7 R1

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bax
                      The G5MX-R found on 4wd models (1.8sohc and gtx ) has 0.717:1 ratio
                      The G25m-r on Diesel proteges (hard to find) has 0.680:1 ( and a 4th of 0.860:1)
                      The GT-Ae gearbox has 0.717:1
                      The F5M-R has 0.731:1. If you find it on a b8-me engine (1.8sohc) it has a final drive of 3.619:1
                      Some F25M-Rs have also 3.619:1 final drive and 0.775:1 5th gear ratio

                      With all those different options and the fact that it's difficult to understand which gearbox you have in front of you when you buy from a junkyard, the only thing that you can do is guess.

                      (info from http://web2.airmail.net/theman/protegefaq/ )
                      Which one of those will produce the lowest RPM? I'm a noob and I don't know if a smaller or larger number equals lower RPM.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Intruder
                        Which one of those will produce the lowest RPM? I'm a noob and I don't know if a smaller or larger number equals lower RPM.
                        Lower numbers are "taller" higher numbers are "shoter" ie .717 fifth gear will produce a lower rpm at a given speed than a .795 fifth would. Or a 4.11 final drive would produce lower rpm per mph in all gears, and 4.39 would be a higher rpm per mph in all gears.
                        -Mike
                        06 Taurus SEL/92 Escort GT/93 RX7 R1

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                          #13
                          Got it. Thanks.

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                            #14
                            i think the guy who owned my car b4 me installed the 626 final cause at 80 im sitting at 36-3700 rpm.
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                            .....they totally underestimated the number of gearheads such as myself that have families but refuse to grow the hell up and stop playing with cars, or that otherwise see the utility of having 4 doors. Obviously I ain't alone, as there are a helluva lotta sti and evo here. Bueler? Beuler? Mazda? Mazda?

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                              #15
                              In my BP-Powered MX-3 with an MX-3 tranny (F-Series).. at 75mph in 5th gear, I am at 3600 RPM.
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