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    Changed ecu's. Mine went bad. Now I only have 2 spare left. At one time I had 5 spare. My race car's went bad twice and now my 323.
    My family has lots of bg's!
    2003 Ford Escort ZX2: Project car/future daily driver. Built Ford Tough (With Mazda Stuff)
    1999 Escort ZX2: Daily driver/beater. Going to be replaced by the '03 next summer.
    2000 Escort ZX2 S/R: bought wrecked, going to use as parts car
    1992 Protege LX: My old race car. Just a wrecked shell right now. Waiting for scrap to go up so that I can get rid of it.
    1992 Mazda 323: Race car
    1992 Escort Gt: My grandpa's old race car
    1994 Escort GT: My grandpa's new race car.
    Parts cars; 1993 Escort Gt, 1995 Escort lx

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      that's really kinda wierd... I've never had an ECU go bad, ever. I DID find a loose ground before though, which magically turned better for awhile after I changed ECU's. When it went bad again, I started digging, and found the broken wire, then spliced it with solder/shrinktube, put the old ECU back in, and it's been running fine ever since..

      What "went bad" on it?

      Originally posted by 323Permin View Post
      I started drawing up a design for a front light bar for a winter rally next weekend. Will be fabing and welding it up over this weekend.
      Sounds interesting! I'd like to see how you're doing it, I still haven't come up with a permanent solution for my own cars yet. Are you integrating a skidplate/splash shield into the design?

      --sarge
      Last edited by SgtRauksauff; 02-09-2012, 10:14 AM.

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        Originally posted by SgtRauksauff View Post
        that's really kinda wierd... I've never had an ECU go bad, ever. I DID find a loose ground before though, which magically turned better for awhile after I changed ECU's. When it went bad again, I started digging, and found the broken wire, then spliced it with solder/shrinktube, put the old ECU back in, and it's been running fine ever since..

        What "went bad" on it?
        --sarge
        Well, it wouldn't start unless I squirted gas into the intake vacuum port. Once it started it would run fine. It just didn't give it any fuel for starting up. When I changed ecus the problem went away. The same thing happened to my race car twice. It's like the ecu has two different modes. One mode for starting, once for running. And it always seems to have the starting mode go out.
        My family has lots of bg's!
        2003 Ford Escort ZX2: Project car/future daily driver. Built Ford Tough (With Mazda Stuff)
        1999 Escort ZX2: Daily driver/beater. Going to be replaced by the '03 next summer.
        2000 Escort ZX2 S/R: bought wrecked, going to use as parts car
        1992 Protege LX: My old race car. Just a wrecked shell right now. Waiting for scrap to go up so that I can get rid of it.
        1992 Mazda 323: Race car
        1992 Escort Gt: My grandpa's old race car
        1994 Escort GT: My grandpa's new race car.
        Parts cars; 1993 Escort Gt, 1995 Escort lx

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          Are you sure its not something to do with your fuel cut in your VAF or a bad wire? Is the ECU case grounded good?

          A computer module should be the last thing to fail, unless you drive a chrysler
          92 Mazda MX3 GS> For sale, $1750 OBO
          94 Escort wagon--BP swap coming, VF10 Turbo, COP, EVO ECU, 03 ZX2 front end conversion
          "Hold yourself accountable before you are held accountable"
          EV14 330cc@3Bar injector kits available.
          EV14 GT500 injector kits available for the BP. 610cc@3Bar.
          EV14 925cc@3Bar injector kits available
          BP Forged H beam rods available now
          KL Forged H beam rods available now
          K8/KF Forged H beam rods awaiting test fit
          FS Forged H beam rods
          awaiting test fit
          F2 Forged H beam rods awaiting test fit
          FE3 Forged H beam rods coming soon
          Mitsubishi 3.8 MIVEC rods coming soon
          Aluminum CAS/Distributor caps
          BP oil jet eliminators
          EV14 fuel rail spacers
          More stuff coming soon.......

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            Originally posted by 300zxrb26dett View Post
            Are you sure its not something to do with your fuel cut in your VAF or a bad wire? Is the ECU case grounded good?

            A computer module should be the last thing to fail, unless you drive a chrysler
            I'm sure, because I plugged the ecu into my race car and it did the same thing.
            My family has lots of bg's!
            2003 Ford Escort ZX2: Project car/future daily driver. Built Ford Tough (With Mazda Stuff)
            1999 Escort ZX2: Daily driver/beater. Going to be replaced by the '03 next summer.
            2000 Escort ZX2 S/R: bought wrecked, going to use as parts car
            1992 Protege LX: My old race car. Just a wrecked shell right now. Waiting for scrap to go up so that I can get rid of it.
            1992 Mazda 323: Race car
            1992 Escort Gt: My grandpa's old race car
            1994 Escort GT: My grandpa's new race car.
            Parts cars; 1993 Escort Gt, 1995 Escort lx

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              Weird, I honestly think you have another issue to track down if you keep having ECU failures like that.
              92 Mazda MX3 GS> For sale, $1750 OBO
              94 Escort wagon--BP swap coming, VF10 Turbo, COP, EVO ECU, 03 ZX2 front end conversion
              "Hold yourself accountable before you are held accountable"
              EV14 330cc@3Bar injector kits available.
              EV14 GT500 injector kits available for the BP. 610cc@3Bar.
              EV14 925cc@3Bar injector kits available
              BP Forged H beam rods available now
              KL Forged H beam rods available now
              K8/KF Forged H beam rods awaiting test fit
              FS Forged H beam rods
              awaiting test fit
              F2 Forged H beam rods awaiting test fit
              FE3 Forged H beam rods coming soon
              Mitsubishi 3.8 MIVEC rods coming soon
              Aluminum CAS/Distributor caps
              BP oil jet eliminators
              EV14 fuel rail spacers
              More stuff coming soon.......

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                Problem is the FP relay next to the ECU, or the ECU is not activating the relay in "start" position.

                My notes, a bit cryptic but you can figure it out especially if you are looking at a wiring diagram.

                "At diagnostic box: LG = FP = control coil output (grnd) from circuit opening (fuel pump) relay (in car by ECM). So the FP>jump>GND checks everything in thr FP circuit except bypasses MAF run signal and pump crank to start signal from ECU Also goes to MAF (switch for eng running signal????) Yes, per Haynes 12-25, LG is switched to B (gnd) in MAF when running.
                {This fuel pump relay has two operating coils: one for starting = STA to E1 = 21 -43 ohms; one for operating B to Fc = 109-226 ohm. Above test checks operating coil, applying Battery power across STA-E1 checks start coil. B to Fp should be open with no power, or closed = 0 ohm with power across either coil. But the relay should not be operated for a long time with power across STA-E1 as it will overheat.

                At relay plug: B is W/R wire 12V, Fc is LG grnd to MAF, Fp is B/P 12v out to pump, STA is V (12V starting sig from ECM), E1 is B = grnd

                >>>Jumping W/R (battery) to B/P (pump) in the harness plug for the relay next to the ECM will bypass the relay completely and operate pump whenever key is ON. If there is power at B/P and the pump does not work, it is bad, or the B/P back to the pump is bad, or the grnd from the tank is bad."

                So, if it is the ECU, then it is the circuit that switches power to the start coil in the FP relay. This should give you enough info to check and bypass it if necessary. Remember that anytime you fool with the ECU, you are also rattling the FP relay and wires around.

                FRM
                Last edited by gofanu; 02-09-2012, 02:20 PM. Reason: correction

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                  I installed my 95 durometer awr engine mounts. The vibes aren't really bad honestly, shifter hits the exhaust more though and that is really annoying.
                  -Steve

                  94' Protege < Worklog<SOLD!
                  VF10 powered!
                  262 Whp & 257 Wtq
                  13.1@107

                  '02 Suzuki Bandit 600s

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                    I checked the air in the tires of my Wagon and the 323 last Saturday......

                    and some other stuff, but I'll get it in my worklog soon.

                    --sarge

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                      I ogled it as I walked over to my other car. 2 months till it goes back on the road... stupid winter

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                        I've decided not to go HAM with the Wagon... We'll see what happens in the next few weeks... Suddenly, I need the garage space for my newest project... If the wagon isn't going to live in the garage, I would rather not have $12,000 worth of performance, and appearance modifications sitting on it. I'm thinking down grade the suspension to some nice struts and lowering springs, not supercharge it, sell the headlights and grille, maybe sell the leather interior, possibly sell the FE3-323 LCA bushings, and just put factory parts in place of that stuff. It will still be hella fun with just the KLDE +I/H/E etc...

                        I bought another car... White 88K mile 2000 Miata LS with the Suspension and Appearance packages.
                        Current:
                        68 Torino GT Fastback
                        86 MR2
                        91 F150
                        94 Escort Wagon BP swap
                        99 Escort Wagon BP swap
                        00 Miata LS
                        08 Arrow AX8
                        14 Mazda5

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                          Temp gauge never went up on the way to school, but when I got out the rad houses and stuff felt warm. Checked the sensor and the wire had broke off of the connector so I crimped a new spade connector on and all seems to be good now.

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                            Went to the junkyard today and found a Tracer LTS, scored some nice clear corners, rare gauge surround with the pocket next to the defrost switch which amazingly was not broken, and of course the LTS lip.
                            Trying to figure out how to make that lip look best with a EGT bumper may not be that easy, since its not exactly the same shape on the bottom as a tracer bumper.

                            Also very close to finishing my early front EGT bumper with the molding strip removed.
                            92 Mazda MX3 GS> For sale, $1750 OBO
                            94 Escort wagon--BP swap coming, VF10 Turbo, COP, EVO ECU, 03 ZX2 front end conversion
                            "Hold yourself accountable before you are held accountable"
                            EV14 330cc@3Bar injector kits available.
                            EV14 GT500 injector kits available for the BP. 610cc@3Bar.
                            EV14 925cc@3Bar injector kits available
                            BP Forged H beam rods available now
                            KL Forged H beam rods available now
                            K8/KF Forged H beam rods awaiting test fit
                            FS Forged H beam rods
                            awaiting test fit
                            F2 Forged H beam rods awaiting test fit
                            FE3 Forged H beam rods coming soon
                            Mitsubishi 3.8 MIVEC rods coming soon
                            Aluminum CAS/Distributor caps
                            BP oil jet eliminators
                            EV14 fuel rail spacers
                            More stuff coming soon.......

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                              found a new lx parts car for scrap price. gettin that shizz soon. w00t!
                              loves BGs too much for his own good...

                              93 pro lx. daily runaround until a straight shell can be had.
                              73 datsun 260z, yet another project in need of more love.


                              "yeah im sure you as a redneck and then a dude walking around with a mohawk, wearing gang rags... you're sure to stir up some trouble..."
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                                Found the drain holes for the trunk. They were covered by water. A screwdriver, some force and 15 seconds later, no more water
                                My car is a Vazondissan. Part Nissan. Part Mazda. Part Ford. Part VW. Part Honda.

                                1993 Protege - DX with LX upgrades. Still rockin' the SOHC. Custom HID headlight Retrofit.

                                2009 Mazda 3 - Finacee Car. No power nothing. About to trade in for a 2014 Mazda 6 Sport.

                                Install Shifter Bushings: http://www.wihandyman.com/forum/show...491#post646491

                                Custom HID's: http://www.wihandyman.com/forum/show...&highlight=hid

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