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    #16
    is that on your car??
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      #17
      no, i think it's a dude from the UK who did the conversion.

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        #18
        Originally posted by MazdaRacer
        no, i think it's a dude from the UK who did the conversion.
        I don't know if he's from the UK or not but it's an overseas GTX. It doesn't look like the conversion will be that hard to do on a Protege. Once the time for new brakes comes, I might give it a shot as well.
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        Originally posted by pigeon
        well if you're a fan of inaccuracy and uncertainty.... then by all means, go set your timing by feel and sound

        while you're out there, you might as well adjust your air/fuel ratio by smell... and your tire pressure by ride height

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          #19
          Originally posted by 92_2_fast
          Link? I have flushed the brakes, am running potenza 950's, just resurfaced rotors and am using oe pads. But from sixty mph I would like to be able to lessen my stopping distance. I realize that the oe set up will lock them up,...blah blah blah
          if they lock the tires, then you physically CANNOT reduce stopping distances. If you would like to argue, first read up on dynamic body friction and then come back to us.
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            #20
            Yes I realize that skidding is not the fastest way to stop. I will NOT argue that with you. But track proven evidence shows that larger brakes slow a car down faster WITH OUT locking up the tires. All I was saying was that the oe set-up has the clamping capability to lock up the tires. SO until you understand what I am saying DON'T critisize. And thank you everone else for the info. That picture of the conversion was just what I was looking for
            Too bad I have AWD and you don't!

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              #21
              I honestly don't understand how that would work. Please elaborate on this "track proven evidence".
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                #22
                Originally posted by mike_moss
                I honestly don't understand how that would work. Please elaborate on this "track proven evidence".
                nascar uses 10 or 12 piston calipers.....i dont think they would do that if a 1 or 2 piston caliper would work just as good
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                  #23
                  They were talking about straight up stopping distances...how would that help?
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                    #24
                    NASCAR also has some big damn tires which they change every few pit stops. Also, the rotors are huge, because things get damn hot in an environment like that! Something a Protege will never see...
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by charles
                      NASCAR also has some big damn tires which they change every few pit stops. Also, the rotors are huge, because things get damn hot in an environment like that! Something a Protege will never see...
                      very very true....just thought i would toss up something to fight about
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by mike_moss
                          LOL
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                            #28
                            Bigger rotors = more cooling = better braking.

                            If your have a 13" rotor it will have more time away from pad contact than a 10" rotor would in the same situation. Better heat dissipation will bring better, more consistant braking performance.

                            As far as larger calipers.... they're more of a "bling bling" mod unless you're upgrading from some truely ****ty brakes, the stock LX 4-wheel disc is more than enough with some performance pads and well maintained rotors. My $.02
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                              #29
                              one could also argue:

                              bigger rotors = more heated metal = longer heat dissipation

                              changing the size of the rotors does not change how fast they cool. If anything it makes it worse, since there is more metal. Thats what the cross drilling and slotting is for.

                              It really depends on the use of the rotors, and how they are going to be used. Street power every day breaking.... the oem **** is good. If you are a hardcore Auto Xer, or want your car to look pimp then go with the conversion. Hell I would do it for looks as well as function even though I am no hardcore racer.
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                                #30
                                Still, the conversion is pointless unless you just want huge brakes or you are road racing.

                                Autocross does not require brakes like that. You barely heat them up in a run!
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