2nd 1.8 liter dx Ive seen

[95Protege]

not sure....but ive had my pro like 2 years and researched everything about them and not once did i find a factory dx with any thing power...

go to protegefaq.com....you might find some info there to put the theory of dx with power to an end...

[stamar]

page not found.


I must be wrong Ill take your word for it.

Ok but then woah.

That means the first car I saw, it was um....

It was an ES with DX "fenders" and steel wheels.

Ok fine thats way more likely than it was a DX with an engine transplant anyway. Its weird but the world is weird. It was a car lot car it was one or the other I thought it was the engine switch because it had 160k and the engine was new looking. Just an estimate
It was a salvage title. It was one or the other I think.

But this second one was the same thing? Just seems weird.

[95Protege]

my bad protegefaq.net

[stamar]

information wasnt there.

[95Protege]

ok man ill search alittle more but i will find an answer to this...

[mannydingo]

I guess I insulted you after all, as per the quotes below:

oh wow, you know whats cool, is that one of us is totally incorrect and has something to learn

What's so cool about being incorrect and having to learn something?

Obviously a option. Maybe more in california ????

Remember, I did ask if maybe that was the case.

KBB lists it as available option.
replacement parts available.

If that's true for DX's then we all have to stick our foot in our mouth and shut the freak up starting with me! Well, unless the California thing absolves me.

Its a shame you contradicted me in such a manner but I have thick skin.

I did contradict you but why say "in such a manner". Was the nice way too nice? I could have contradicted you by saying: You moron, DX's don't come with power windows! Instead, I used statements like:

Please don't think I'm trying to disrespect you but that quote above is really making you lose credibillity. I now think that you're seeing LX and mistaking it for DX.

I was even correct, even if only on one count, on the above where 95Protege pointed out you saw an LX as a DX. Granted there's the possibility that's only happened once or twice out of the 10 you've seen.

I made this thread to chat and share information about the protege models though and learn something and thats cool. I hope you learned something.

I guess I have. I hope you have too.

If you call that part a fender thats fine. LOL. Its you whos using the wrong word. LOL.

It doesn't matter what we call it. We have to go by what the automotive industry calls it. My dad worked as a body man at dealerships. The order form had "fender" as one of the parts to order for the repair. He would then get the part with one of those DX, LX type logos.

If you protege experts think that the DX doesnt have power windows as an option there must be some reason you think that. Now Ill figure out why you think that.

I think it's the fact that the rest of the country seems to be different from your area of the country if you've seen 10 DX's and they've ALL had power windows.

like I said, Ive never even seen a picture of a protege dx without power windows. cant even find a picture of one.

Uh, didn't you click my link?

Well I know thats not the case so my owners manual isnt telling me the right information. This is really weird I must say. It may be california proteges are different.

Once again, I may have been right in asking about that.

Ok, I tried to put my critique in a non-insulting way but I obviously didn't do a good enough job of it. An apology is in order to you. Well, let's continue with the fight, er, uh, I mean discussion.

[stamar]

oh ya

oh the lx sticker becomes unreadable

Its a sticker after all. I can see a car and it looks like dx to me if it deteriorates.

As a matter of fact I bet the seller of that car thinks he has a dx because the sticker on the other side looks like a dx.

I havent seen 10 dxs that i got inside lol. Ive seen um.... 4 now. That I looked at. There is one in particular that parks by home buffet I park next to. I think its a 96. Manual, different color interior. AC power windows different tach.

so in my little world I never even bothered to think about it. Every protege I looked at had power windows I had never heard one wasnt supposed to before.

Ive never seen one with a roll up, lx dx whatever. You can bet the next one I look at Ill notice more.

It could definitely be what Im seeing is rare. Stamars car spotting is not scientific yet at this date.


ok

Well even if the car said lx it sure didnt say ES. It wasnt an ES. An es has plastic body cladding on it to. Im going to look up some pictures of those too.

[95Protege]

here is the complete list of specs by motor trend....This should stop this discussion...

1995 Mazda Protege Performance & Efficiency Standard Features
- 1,489 cc 1.5 liters 4 in-line front transverse engine with 75.3 mm bore, 83.5 mm stroke, 9.4 compression ratio, double overhead cam and four valves per cylinder
- Unleaded fuel
- Fuel economy EPA highway (l/100km): 6
- Multi-point injection fuel system
- 55 liter fuel tank
- Power: SAE and 69 kW , 92 HP @ 5,500 rpm; 96 ft lb , 130 Nm @ 4,000 rpm

1995 Mazda Protege Handling, Ride & Braking Standard Features
- Two disc brakes including two ventilated discs
- Spacesaver spare wheel
- Strut front suspension with stabilizer bar , rear suspension with stabilizer bar independent with coil springs

1995 Mazda Protege Exterior & Aerodynamics Standard Features
- Body side molding
- Front and rear body color impact absorbing bumpers
- Coefficient of drag: 0.32
- Driver and passenger internally adjustable door mirrors
- External dimensions: overall length (mm): 4,440, overall width (mm): 1,709, overall height (mm): 1,417, wheelbase (mm): 2,604, front track (mm): 1,461, rear track (mm): 1,461 and curb to curb turning circle (mm): 10,180
- Halogen bulb headlights
- Paint
- Rear window
- Tinted glass
- Weights: gross vehicle weight rating (kg) 1,467 and curb weight (kg) 1,082
- Two-speed windshield wipers with fixed intermittent wipe

1995 Mazda Protege Interior Standard Features
- Roof antenna
- Front illuminated ashtray , additional row seats ashtray
- Cargo area light
- Cargo capacity: rear seat up; to lower window (liters): 371 and all seats in place (liters): 371
- Front seats illuminated cigar lighter , additional row seats cigar lighter
- Floor full console with covered storage box
- Courtesy lights with four switches
- Cup holders
- Door ajar warning
- Door pockets/bins for driver seat and passenger seat
- Floor covering: carpet in load area
- Driver and passenger front airbag
- Bucket seat
- Reel height adjustable front seat belts on driver seat and passenger seat
- Lockable glove compartment with lid
- Height adjustable head restraints on front seats , head restraints on rear seats
- Internal dimensions: front headroom (mm): 996, rear headroom (mm): 950, front leg room (mm): 1,072, rear leg room (mm): 902, front shoulder room (mm): 1,377, rear shoulder room (mm): 1,359 and interior volume (liters): 2,704
- Power steering
- Reel rear seat belts on driver side, passenger side and center side
- Fixed rear seats
- Rear view mirror
- Mechanical remote fuel filler door release
- Cloth seat upholstery
- Seating: five seats
- Four speakers
- Plastic steering wheel
- Ventilation system with four fan speeds, recirculation setting and rear seat heater ducts

[95Protege]

nowhere in this review does it say some dx may include power options...

Ok here is the difference in dx and lx...power options... thats the only thing.

Now if a dx had power options would it not be an lx? lx for luxioury....dx for base model meaning no options at all...

[stamar]

um

howcome all the other protege dxs have power windows

howcome the civic dx does.

escort dx.

what other dxs are there its pretty popular.

Corrolla DX.

I appreciate your work but, that just shows whats standard. A dx doesnt come with power equipment an lx does. So you pay extra for the dx to have pw.

I mean, Ill take your word for it I guess.

That would make the gen 2 dx protege one of a very short list of cars that they didnt sell pw pdl for.

Try to find a car sold today that doesnt have it.

Its like, heres $500 for $10 in electric motors. NO, WE DO NOT WANT YOUR YANKEE DOG AMERICAN MONEY LEAVE!

That attitude doesnt usually take you too far in the auto business....

[95Protege]

ive yet to see 1 with power that wasnt swapped...beetle orange swapped his in...as far as civic dx having it the 92-95 didnt. Thats why everyone was hunting the lx...had had a 95 lx parts car had all power...it was wrecked bad so i put it in the paper for $1000 and had all these guys with dx call and ask would i part out the power stuff i said no so one guy showed up here and had $1000 in hand now his dx is all power and it has my old d16yz motor in it...

[95Protege]

also the electric swap is being done by people who otherwise drive their protege stock just for conveince of having the ability of rolling down windows in the back popping the trunk with a button and adjusting mirrors without leaning across the seat..

[95Protege]

btw my friends cousin just moved here and he drives a dx and we was lookin at his car and i popped the hood and guess what i find....A damn bp swap....i couldnt believe it so i ask him about it and he said the mechanic that put it in couldnt locate a z5 and he had a whole bp car in the back so he did the swap for him for $500 that was the motor and labor...

[95Protege]

i wish i could get tht damn lucky...

[mannydingo]

95Protege, you've gone nuts. If stamar wouldn't have gotten that last post in, you would have posted 6 posts back to back. I'm wondering if some dealer in California back in the mid 90's was ordering the power parts from the factory at some mega-discount and having the mechanics add it to the DX's and then offering it to buyers at a very reduced rate in comparison to the LX. There may even have been a long delay in LX models from the factory so the factory allowed this. I'm starting to suspect that big time. For example, if the LX was $1200 more but the dealership offered this "dealer DX mod" for only $600 more, they could pitch this to people that comparison shop. The trunk release might be the most inconvenient to do or add to much to the labor and price. Something like that could be left as the DX version's. As soon as other dealers got word of this by sending an employee acting as a customer, they would confirm it and start doing the same.