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    #16
    the problem is that the KL-ZE has enough problems with wheel spin being NA already. Add a turbo, let alone 2 of them and kiss all traction good-bye.

    my $0.02
    The T3 BP MX-3 conversion has begun, and is taking forever & will kill me.

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      #17
      Marc once showed me a website of a 323 with a TT KL-ZE....the intake and both exhaust manis were custom and looked lik ****...it is possible but more work and money then its worth.....
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        #18
        Try it in a AWD car

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          #19
          Maybe with the radiator straped to the front bumper and a good hole in the firewall :





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            #20
            anyone else find it ironic that the poster behind the engine says "financing available"?


            anyway.... you'll fry trannies, there's no GOOD reason to do twins as a single will work fine, and umm, thats all i got right now....
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              #21
              very ironic.

              Even if you had an AWD tranny imported and spent time converting your car to AWD to put down the power, reliability is still an issue. A KL-ZE TT would make alot of torque. More so that what the oem system is designed to handle. Yes it could be done with enough money and time, but getting the drivetrain to be reliable would be the tricky part I would imagine. That is after you get the motor in sucessfully. If someone could do it tho it was be a sweet as hell ride.
              The T3 BP MX-3 conversion has begun, and is taking forever & will kill me.

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                #22
                What trans did they use on that Rod Millen IS430 V8 swap? i think it was some sort of Toyota trans, Supra maybe or was it a Skyline trans...pretty sure it was a Supra tho.

                Anything is possible in a shop with the right tools.

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                  #23
                  A friend of mine had a sinfgle turbo Kf in his mx-3. It was stupid quick, i swear it spinend all the way thru 4th. BUt it blew up before it was properly tuned..

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by jitb37
                    A friend of mine had a sinfgle turbo Kf in his mx-3. It was stupid quick, i swear it spinend all the way thru 4th. BUt it blew up before it was properly tuned..
                    What size turbo was he runnin? I was thinkin twin vj20s. somethin small but powerfull. There was a guy a the cork sport show that had a turboed probe but the turbo sat under the intake bock and was only run off one manny? I would think that would cause that sides valves to fry?
                    Also- thanks for those pics!!!
                    Too bad I have AWD and you don't!

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                      #25
                      I saw a Camaro with a single-turbo that was mounted in the back where the muffler should be... that would take care of mounting issues... but hellooooo lag!
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                        #26
                        It may be possible with a single turbo setup, however due to space issues, you'd be forced to run a small turbo unless you want the inlet sticking out of the hood like a pro drag supra. As far as rad clearance, you could shell out the money for a custom rad or a fluidyne which could be made to about half the size like the civic radiators and then find a nice smic like a dsm intercooler to handle cooling. (I'm sure I'm not thinking of everything here.)
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                          #27
                          Seems like an awful lot of work for what you'd get out of it.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by 92_2_fast
                            What size turbo was he runnin? I was thinkin twin vj20s. somethin small but powerfull. There was a guy a the cork sport show that had a turboed probe but the turbo sat under the intake bock and was only run off one manny? I would think that would cause that sides valves to fry?
                            Also- thanks for those pics!!!
                            It was a 16g i believe...or a T3...i dont quite remember. The flange was welded right at the Y-pipe. It was almost perfect, i wish i got soem pics of it before the motor was pulled, but in a few months he will have a ZE in there using the same setup. I will get pics of it guranteed. It would spin 1st - 2nd - 3rd and catch, and that was at half throttle. I mean it really wasnt as much work as you all think. any exhaust shop will weld a flange to your exhaust. They wont gurantee it but they will do it for you. he used a Rx7 TT Fuel pump - KLZE injectors - KLZE cam gears - Stock ECU(weakpoint of the whole setup). The ecu would cut thefuel off when the engine would get too much air, so that lead to the death of the motor. lesson learned..

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                              #29
                              stupid design... the GTX is similar but cuts the spark not the fuel... thats gonna blow **** up.
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