Aftermarket ECU and Piggyback list...

[Shades]

So far I've found:

• Haltech
• Microtech
• Greddy Emanage/Emanage Ultimate
• Apexi S-AFC II
• Megasquirt - FAQ's

Anymore to add?
Opinions and personal experience is always welcome.

Just trying to do a little research... during my search thru the forum, I saw that guy who deals with Microtech, and I see a lot of Auz guys use it.
I also heard that standalone is more tuned for WOT than a piggyback which is better for a daily driver.

[MazdaRacer]

Flyin 323
TecII (i think thats how it's spelled)

[Shades]

Thanks!

So far I've found:

• Haltech
• Microtech
• Greddy Emanage/Emanage Ultimate
• Apexi S-AFC II
• Megasquirt - FAQ's
• Electromotive Tec3 - One after the TecII

[Denis]

SDS EFI
F.A.S.T.
Wolf
AEM


P.S. S-AFC and GReddy Emanage are piggy backs not ECU's.

[18sOnAiR]

Flyin 323? Do you mean 323Link?

Frank
92 EGT
03.5 MSP
05 ZX-6R

[Shades]

ECU

• Haltech
• Microtech
• Megasquirt - FAQ's
• Electromotive Tec3 - One after the TecII
• 323Link
• Simple Digital Systems
• FAST XFI
• AEM

Piggyback

• Greddy Emanage/Emanage Ultimate
• Apexi S-AFC II

[Shaun32390]

Autronic
HKS F-Con V Pro (application specific but they have one for miata B6 and BP that might be of use?)
Apex'i Power FC (I think it's only application specific also so might not be an option)

The Autronic is a standalone but the other two I'm not sure about. When they claim that they are as easy to connect as a piggyback that worries me about their capabilities. Anyone have any experience with the HKS or Apex'i?

[TwinCam16]

i am using a piggy back by perfect power called SMT
there is the versin 6 and also 7 for different applications
they also have a standalone called the XMS
check them out www.perfectpower.com

[FE3-323]

stand alone is more of a system designed for WOT use rather then non, but it also depends on how you tune it. If you have more then one preprogrammed option that you can switch between programs for D.D. VS track your better off.

[Denis]

stand alone is more of a system designed for WOT use rather then non,

Whaaaaaaat? I think you need to exit this thread now if you think that.

[PSH77]

Motec

[atomicEGT]

piggybacks = garbage

[relaxed]

piggybacks = garbage

and why is that so?

[Shaun32390]

From what I hear, most piggybacks usually do not have enough resolution (tuning points) to modify your fuel/timing/other maps thoroughly. A standalone gives you nearly 100% control over all engine parameters and can use most sensor inputs.

Many people who have standalones don't like the part throttle driveability because they go to the dyno and get "tuned" for wide open throttle and more or less call it a day (either cause that's all they can afford or some other reason). It could take most average standalone owners years of tuning to completely exploit all the capabilities of their computers on a given engine(especially when they are forced to develop their own maps). If you just spend a week on the dyno, you can/will have a driveable car but too many expect to just leave it like that and get better than stock quality/reliability and performance under all driving conditions.

Piggybacks aren't really garbage but they are simply a way of tampering with your stock ECU. They can't offer you any options more than what your ECU provides and basically let you "tweak" a little here and there.

If you are looking to really explore your engine's potential, the only way to go is a standalone. Make sure you have deep pockets and expect to have to do most of the tuning yourself. Also, the only safety net you have with a standalone is your intelligence.

[atomicEGT]

and why is that so?

if you like doing things half-assed, more power to you.