FSP 1st Gen Protege Project

[XelderX]

XelderX- have you found any adjustable shocks?

I'm going to be using my AWR coilovers that were on my BJ. The fronts fit without modification. The rears need a small change to the lower bracket. The coilovers have adjustable Koni inserts.

[Mazda_Powered]

wow, just tuned into this now! good luck man! any updates?

JACK.

[XelderX]

wow, just tuned into this now! good luck man! any updates?

JACK.

I'll be working on getting the motor mounted this weekend. That is really the main hold up right now.

[XelderX]

Step 1 of mounting the engine in the car is complete. I've got the engine positioned correctly in the car. Now I just need to modify the mounts to bolt up. The rear mount is raised about a 1/2". I'll need to slot the holes in the front mount support a little for it to line up correctly. The driver's side mount is very close, but I'll need to adjust it with a few washers and a small sleeve. I've got an idea for the passenger side mount using part of one of the mounts I got out of the Kia. It will just need a sleeve machined and a bracket welded to it. So far so good.

[Kitty]

how does the clearance look from the brake MC and the tb.

[XelderX]

how does the clearance look from the brake MC and the tb.

It's no worse than it is on the 3rd Gen Protege. A 90 degree silicone bend should clear it easily.

[Kitty]

no thats not bad at all.

[cojsl]

XelderX Nice work! Quick question. Your topic is "FSP 1st Gen Protege", but a 1st gen with a 3rd gen engine swap is only SCCA legal in modified. Was the plan to run in mod?

[Kitty]

You can put a motor from the same family in the car as long as you don't freakly put the motor in.

ala k20 in an eg.

[cojsl]

You can put a motor from the same family in the car as long as you don't freakly put the motor in.

ala k20 in an eg.

Under SCCA SOLO2 rules, a 3rd gen motor in a 1st Gen is only legal in mod. If you did a BG BP into a BG DX, even that is only legal in SM, FSP has to use an engine that came with that trim level of car. Here's the rule book if you want to look it up: http://scca.org/documents/Solo%20Rul...lo_Rules_2.pdf

[XelderX]

In Street Prepared all the Proteges are listed on the same line in the appendix. As far as Street Prepared is concerned all Proteges are the same.

[XelderX]

C. Equipment and/or specifications may be exchanged between
different years and models of a vehicle if (a) the item is standard
on the year/model from which it was taken, and (b) the years/
models are listed on the same line of Appendix A (Street Prepared
Classes). The updated/backdated part or the part to whichit is to be attached may not be altered, modified, machined or
otherwise changed to facilitate the updating/backdating allowance.
Standard factory installation methods, locations, and configurations
are allowed. The updating and/or backdating of
engines, transmissions or transaxles must be done as a unit;
component parts of these units may not be interchanged. Cars
not listed in the Street Prepared sections of Appendix A may not
be updated/backdated until approved by the SEB and published in
the official SCCA publication.



Appendix


Street Prepared Class F

Acura
Legend
Alfa Romeo
1300cc models (all)
1600cc sedans (all)
1750 & 2000 sedans (all)
Alfetta GT
AMC
All 4-cyl models
Audi
80 FWD
100LS (all)
4000 5-cyl
5000
Austin
America (all)
Mini (see Mini Cooper listing)
Austin-Healey
Sprite (all)
100-4 & 100-6 & 3000
BMW
1600
1800ti, TISA
1600-2 & 1602 & 2002 (NOC)
318i (NOC)
320i
Chevrolet / Pontiac / Buick / Oldsmobile / Geo / Suzuki
Beretta, 4 cyl.
Camaro, 4 cyl. (’82+)
Chevette & T1000
Citation & Omega
Corvair (non-Yenko)
Fiero 4-cyl (all)
Firebird 4-cyl (’82+)
Metro & Swift, all (‘85-’88)
Metro & Swift, all (‘89-’93)
Monza (NOC) & Starfire &
Omega & Astre & Skyhawk,
all RWD
Phoenix & Skylark
Prism
Spectrum 1.5L non-turbo (’85-’89)
Spectrum (NOC)
Sprint & Sprint Turbo 176
Storm base model 12V (’89-’93)
Sunbird 4-cyl
Vega & Cosworth Vega
Chrysler / Dodge / Plymouth
Acclaim 4-cyl non-turbo
Arrow 1600 & 2000 & 2600
Champ non-turbo (all)
Colt FWD non-turbo
Colt non-turbo (8V)
Colt RWD 1600 & 2000
Daytona non-turbo
Horizon & TC3 & Turismo, 1.7L & 1.8L & 2.2L
Laser all non-turbo (‘89-’99)
Omni & 024 & Charger
Rampage 2.2L
Sapporo 1600 & 2000 & 2600
Shelby 2.2L non-turbo (’83-’84)
Spirit 4-cyl non-turbo
Datsun/Nissan
1200
200 SX NOC (‘76-’79)
200 SX NOC (‘80-’83)
200 SX NOC (‘84+)
210
310
510 (‘68-’73)
510 (‘78-’81)
610
710
B210
F-10
NX1600
Pulsar & Pulsar NX, non-turbo (all)
Sentra 1.6L (’91+)
Stanza (all)
Dodge / Mitsubishi / Eagle
Colt / Mirage non-turbo(‘84-’88)
Colt / Mirage / Summit nonturbo (‘89-’92)
Colt / Mirage / Summit nonturbo (‘93-’96)
Eagle
Talon all non-turbo (‘89-’99)
Fiat
128
850 Sedan
850 Coupe and Spyder
Brava and 131
Strada
Ford / Mercury
Capri II (’76-’77)
Cortina
Escort GT
Escort & Tracer 1.9L
EXP & LN7 & Escort & Lynx (all NOC)
Festiva
Fiesta
Focus (NOC)
Fusion/Milan 4-cyl.
Mustang II, 4-cyl (’74-’78)
Mustang & Capri, 4-cyl, nonturbo
Pinto & Bobcat, 1600 & 2000 & 2300
Pinto Wagon 2000 & 2300 & 2600
Probe 4-cyl non-turbo
Honda
Accord (’76-’81)
Accord (’82+)
Civic (’73-’79)
Civic (’80-’83)
Civic (‘92-’95) NOC
Civic (‘96+) NOC
CRX 1300 & Civic 1300 (‘84-’87)
Prelude (’79-’82)
Hyundai
Elantra
Excel
Scoupe
all NOC
Isuzu
I-Mark 1.5L non-turbo (FWD)(’85-’89)
I-Mark RS 16V (‘85-’89)
I-Mark RWD (’80-’85)
Impulse non-turbo (’83-’89)
Stylus S 12V (’90-’93)
Kia
Spectra 1.8 4 cyl
Lancia
Beta & Zagato (’75-’83)
Mazda
3
323 non-turbo
626 FWD (all)
626 RWD (all)
Cosmo (all)
GLC FWD (all)
GLC RWD (all)
MX-6 4-cyl non-turbo
Protege
R-100
RX-4
MG
1100, 1300 Sedan (all)
A (all)
B & BGT (all)
C & C-GT (all)
Midget 948 & 1098 & 1275 & 1500 (all)
Mini Cooper
850 & 970 & 997 & 998 & 1071 & 1275 (all)
Mini Cooper non-S
Mitsubishi
Cordia non-turbo
Eclipse all non-turbo (‘89-’99)
Lancer non-turbo
Mirage non-turbo (‘97-’02)
Tredia non-turbo
Opel
1900 & Manta
GT 1100
GT 1500 & 1900
Kadett 1100
Kadett 1500 & 1900
Peugeot
405 DL & S
Porsche
912
912E
Renault
15 & 17 (all)
16 (all)
17 Gordini
18i (all)
Alliance & GTA & Encore
Fuego non-turbo
R-5 (NOC) & LeCar
Saturn
SC1 (8v)
Scion
tC
Sunbeam
Alpine (all)
Subaru
4WD Turbo (all NOC)
Forester (non-turbo)
Impreza NOC
Legacy & Legacy GT
Suzuki
Aerio
Toyota
Camry, 4 cyl.
Celica (’70-’77)
Celica (’78-’81)
Celica NOC (‘82-‘99)
Celica FWD 1.6 L
Corolla 1200
Corolla 1600 & SR-5 (’70-’79)
Corolla 1600 & 1800 RWD (’80-’83)
Starlet
Tercel
Triumph
GT-6
Herald (all)
Spitfire
TR-2 & TR-3
TR-4 & TR-4A
TR-250 & TR-6
TR-7
Volkswagen
Beetle (RWD)
Cabriolet (‘85-’92)
Dasher & Quantum, all 4-cyl.
Fox GL
Golf & Jetta (8V, ‘85-’93) (A-2 chassis)
Golf & Jetta & Cabrio (8V,‘93-’98) (A-3 chassis)
Golf & Jetta & Beetle TDI
Karmann Ghia
Passat (all NOC)
Rabbit & Jetta & Scirocco &
Cabriolet & Pickup (8V, ‘75-’92) (A-1 chassis)
Scirocco (8V all)
Volvo
120 Series (all)
140 Series (all)
160 Series (all)
1800 & P1800 & ES1800 (all)
240 Series, non-turbo (all)
260 Series (all)
700 Series (all)
Yugo
(all)

+ All sedans under 1.7L not otherwise
classified. All 4-cyl and rotary RWD
mini-pickups. (See Section 15.1.C for
update/backdate limitations.)

[cojsl]

I looked it up, I am wrong, I stand corrected. Apologies for my misunderstanding of FSP rules.

[cojsl]

heh, looks like you beat me to the applicable section

[XelderX]

heh, looks like you beat me to the applicable section

Lol...no prob. I try. Believe me, I get confused by the rules on an hourly basis.