what tires for me

[MazdaRacer]

For a daily driver in Washington, i'd go with the Kumho 712's, good wet traction.

for me here in CA, Azenis are a no brainer. although if i could just afford to run the Kumho V710's on a daily basis, i'd be one happy mofo....hahahaha

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I love my Bridgestone Potenza RE-730s on my stock 15" rims, and the 17" I have now has the RE750s. They are a great balance between treadwear and performance, and they have excellent wet traction. Very quiet, too. Quite grippy, but still last a while.

[JesseSays]

I would forget the kumho 712s and get the 711s. Similar dry traction, better wet tractoin, and MUCH cheaper.

And Azenis will last a year a good 15k+ miles, so if that's a year to you, then go for it.

[ThatCarGuy]

Also remember... rain = ruts, 40 series tires = no shock resistance for the wheels. I hope your wheels are going to be strong as hell, otherwise your wheels are going to get torn up.

711s are also pretty cool and I was about to make some asinine comment about them being "only" H rated, but then I realized that they are going on a Pro, not a Porsche. Go with the 711s... Cheap and durable.

[goldstar]

Not to put too fine a point on it when in fact there may be no practical disadvantage in going with an H-rated tire, but a number of sources warn against downgrading from the OEM speed rating. Both www.discounttiredirect.com and www.1010tires.com/tiretech.asp recommend not downgrading to a lower speed rating than that of the OEM tires. Doing so can result in poor handling and unpredictable steering, particularly in emergency situations.

Two different tires, identical in all but their speed ratings, in fact have different constuctions. Speed ratings are dependent, among other factors, on the belt structure that is designed to resist and control deformation responsible for heat buildup. This same belt structure that permits higher speeds also results in a stonger, better handling tire. Consequently, all else being equal, tires rated V and above are inherently stronger and better handling than those rated H and below even if you will never run at the speeds the tires are capable of safely withstanding.

Happy Motoring!

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goldstar strikes again! Very good points. I went up to Z-rated tires.

[redfox]

i think ill just get the rims and take them to les schwab and see what they can give me.... this tire thing is way more in depth then i ever thought it would be

[JesseSays]

Not to put too fine a point on it when in fact there may be no practical disadvantage in going with an H-rated tire, but a number of sources warn against downgrading from the OEM speed rating. Both www.discounttiredirect.com and www.1010tires.com/tiretech.asp recommend not downgrading to a lower speed rating than that of the OEM tires. Doing so can result in poor handling and unpredictable steering, particularly in emergency situations.

Two different tires, identical in all but their speed ratings, in fact have different constuctions. Speed ratings are dependent, among other factors, on the belt structure that is designed to resist and control deformation responsible for heat buildup. This same belt structure that permits higher speeds also results in a stonger, better handling tire. Consequently, all else being equal, tires rated V and above are inherently stronger and better handling than those rated H and below even if you will never run at the speeds the tires are capable of safely withstanding.

Happy Motoring!

Yes, however, when will you find two otherwise identical tires with just different speed ratings outside of the Kumho 712?



Case in point, the Falken Azenis Sport RT-215 is an H-rated tire, and handles better than all but about 5 other models of tires available to the United States. There are PLENTY of ****ty tires that are rated very highly on a speed rating test. Also note that the testing procedure for speed testing is a long term heat test, IIRC, an hour duration. So you cannot go more than 130 on H rated tires for an Hour.... Hmm, sounds pretty useless to me.


Don't look at speed ratings for performance, unless they are identical model tires.

Also, PLEASE STOP STATING COMPANIES INSTEAD OF MODELS OF TIRES!

[goldstar]

Yes, however, when will you find two otherwise identical tires with just different speed ratings outside of the Kumho 712?

Don't look at speed ratings for performance, unless they are identical model tires.

Also, PLEASE STOP STATING COMPANIES INSTEAD OF MODELS OF TIRES!

For example:
Yokohama Avid H4s/V4s

Michelin Pilot: XGT H4; XGT V4; XGT Z4

Dunlop Sport 5000: H; V; Z

Bridgestone Potenza RE 92: T; S; H; V

Bridgestone Potenza S-03 Pole Position: W; Y

Bridgestone Potenza RE950: H; V; W

Happy Motoring!

[95ProLeila]

S03's are badass, the RE92's are rocks though.

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What is your point in getting new tires: do you want the stickiest you can get? do you want good ride quality? do you want long lasting tires? If you said this, and I missed it, sorry.

[redfox]

check out the first post...im looking to buy a set of rota slipstreams with tires (new) and i found a site that offers the combo at a good price but they are limited as to the kinds of tires they offer with the combo (see first post for list). im looking to get at LEAST a year of driving yout of them i.e. more then 15k miles. that is the only requirment...and also remember that it rains almost every day in the winter here....so they need to be good all season tires....since we dont get much if any snow here i dont have to swap them out for winter wheels...

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oops, must have skipped right past that.

[mino3]

tire size

Redfox,

I run 205-40-16's on my protege with aluminum wheels. My wheels have a few flat spots on the from the roads here. I'm running BFG Euro TA's. They do not make these anymore, BUT this will be my 5th year on the SAME set of tires.

[JesseSays]

For example:
Yokohama Avid H4s/V4s

Michelin Pilot: XGT H4; XGT V4; XGT Z4

Dunlop Sport 5000: H; V; Z

Bridgestone Potenza RE 92: T; S; H; V

Bridgestone Potenza S-03 Pole Position: W; Y

Bridgestone Potenza RE950: H; V; W

Happy Motoring!

Are you looking at different sizes with different speed ratings? Or the same exact sized tire with 2 different speed ratings as was the case with the 712s.