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    99 SPI won't start unless held at WOT

    yo dudes, been having this problem with my little sister's car and I'm sick of it.

    99 Escort wagon, auto, 89k (I think). started off as a problem where the car wouldn't start for a few tries, but if you turned the key to on for a few seconds like a diesel it would fire right up. changed the fuel filter and pump, seemed okay. not long after, I get a complaint that it's doing it again and now it idles weird and there's a CEL. pull a #1 misfire code, replace plugs/wires and clear code, idle is fine and CEL goes away. now if you try to start the car, it'll crank forever but won't fire unless the gas pedal is held to the floor. air filter is clean/recent, and tried starting it open MAF- no difference. took the IAC off and sprayed it out with throttle body cleaner (it didn't look super dirty or anything to start with, but w/e), no difference. from a google search, it seems like IAC and ECT sensors are the usual culprits, but I'd prefer to not just throw parts at this thing.

    what am I missing here?
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    #2
    I dont know if this helps you but IIRC Ford has a flood clear mode when you step on the pedal WOT while cranking. When I still had my 1.9 it would sometimes crank longer then normal and I never really figured out the problem, but if you turned the key a couple times to prime the pump before starting it would fire right up. I think Ford also uses a check valve in a fuel line somewhere to prevent fuel from draining back to the tank and to eliminate excessive cranking but again my memory is fuzzy on this since its been a long time since I had Ford specific training, like 10+ years, lol

    My neighbor had a 97 SPI and it had intermittent weird problems like bad idle or misfires or stalling out and we tried the usual suspects, plugs/wires/ spare coil pack, checked TPS, checked fuel pressure, changed timing belt. Nothing worked, and it kept getting worse until the valve seat fell out of the head.
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      #3
      Yup clear flood mode. Do you have a scan tool that shows live data so you can see what the ect is reading?
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        #4
        Yeah that is a good idea. Get a scan tool that will show the PIDS.
        92 Mazda MX3 GS> For sale, $1750 OBO
        94 Escort wagon--BP swap coming, VF10 Turbo, COP, EVO ECU, 03 ZX2 front end conversion
        "Hold yourself accountable before you are held accountable"
        EV14 330cc@3Bar injector kits available.
        EV14 GT500 injector kits available for the BP. 610cc@3Bar.
        EV14 925cc@3Bar injector kits available
        BP Forged H beam rods available now
        KL Forged H beam rods available now
        K8/KF Forged H beam rods awaiting test fit
        FS Forged H beam rods
        awaiting test fit
        F2 Forged H beam rods awaiting test fit
        FE3 Forged H beam rods coming soon
        Mitsubishi 3.8 MIVEC rods coming soon
        Aluminum CAS/Distributor caps
        BP oil jet eliminators
        EV14 fuel rail spacers
        More stuff coming soon.......

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          #5
          Currently, nope. But that's fairly solid motivation to play with my Bluetooth OBDII thing and Torque.

          Also IIRC the check valve is in the pump...
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