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    #16
    Ah, right, Jon actually has my spares. I think I sold them to him for $20 shipped for the 3rd and 4th gear sets.

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      #17
      Sounds good guys, thanks for you help! Much appreciated... I'm feeling pretty sh!tty cause of this, being so close to finishing the turbo part. You should of seen the sauce (tranny fluid) that came out of the tranny... it was a metalic goo... so it wasn't even red fluid type looking... more of a metalic grey as if the gears were grinding a lot.

      I'll let you all know what I find when I drop it out and tear it apart.

      I don't see why it would be 3rd or 4th gear even... it was always second gear that gave me problems, when I'd fast shift from first to second it was sometimes not sync and I'd get that grinding feel. Then let go of the clutch and throw it into second.

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        #18
        metallic goo? *shudder*
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        ... The first FWD BG with a Toyota E153 transmission conversion in the USA!
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          #19
          Originally posted by therieldeal View Post
          metallic goo? *shudder*
          I know I haven't even got the turbo on the motor and she's already ripped apart the tranny.

          I looked in the grey metallic goo, and filtered out the other pieces I saw... I didn't get to take any pictures, but I found the other half of the tooth, and it had 4 grooves in total on it. It was pretty wide and I'm sure it's the LSD ring gear.

          Is it possible to just buy the ring gear assuming nothing else in the motor is ripped apart?

          Also does anyone have any links to information about using the MR2 tranny? I'm gonna start researching now, and post anything I find.

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            #20
            Jon, I'm sorry to see the bad news here. I'm interested to know what route you're taking and let me know if you need a hand as always.

            Unfortunately I think that with that GT30 in there, stock Mazda boxes won't have much of a chance.

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              #21
              Hmm, I don't remember any ring gear having 4 grooves.

              Jon the is the guy to talk to regarding the MR2 tranny swap as he is researching it right now.

              You can't buy the ring gear seperate. And, you don't really want to use one from a Mazda box because they are thinner than the one that comes on the MSP diff. You would need to get one from a Kia. I don't remember, but I might have one from a Kia.

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                #22
                Thanks... yeah I'm a little upset... so damn close, yet so damn far.

                Well, I'd like to know what gen MR2 this tranny has to be from... there's one for sale from a 1986.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Shades View Post
                  Thanks... yeah I'm a little upset... so damn close, yet so damn far.

                  Well, I'd like to know what gen MR2 this tranny has to be from... there's one for sale from a 1986.
                  I have a Kia diff Jon if you want it. Open, but complete with the ring gear.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Lex View Post
                    I have a Kia diff Jon if you want it. Open, but complete with the ring gear.
                    Thanks, I still have the original open diff from that tranny... right now I'm researching MR2 tranny.

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                    1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE - Raspberry... RIP


                    Racing BP (Project "Blue" Marlin)... Twin Scroll GT3071R, breaking 30psi at the moment!

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Shades View Post


                      Thanks, I still have the original open diff from that tranny... right now I'm researching MR2 tranny.
                      I'd be very interested in what you find out.

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                        #26
                        you can use another stock ring gear but you'll need the ARP quaife bolts to bolt it to the LSD. i would reccomend using the secondary shaft and ring gear from the same tranny if possible. probe trannies (v6 and 4) use the wider ring gear and 4.10 if you dont want to buy a kia trans.

                        if you want some info on the toyota thing let me know. get in touch with me on AIM or something and i can explain what i know so far.
                        Escort GTR -- 11.87 @ 117.6 mph -- 320 HP / 325 Ft. Lbs. @ 23 PSI
                        ... The first FWD BG with a Toyota E153 transmission conversion in the USA!
                        Looking for BP x Toyota E153 adapter plates? PM me or contact me on Facebook: Riel Performance Parts

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by therieldeal View Post
                          you can use another stock ring gear but you'll need the ARP quaife bolts to bolt it to the LSD. i would reccomend using the secondary shaft and ring gear from the same tranny if possible. probe trannies (v6 and 4) use the wider ring gear and 4.10 if you dont want to buy a kia trans.

                          if you want some info on the toyota thing let me know. get in touch with me on AIM or something and i can explain what i know so far.
                          How feasible is the Toyota conversion?

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                            #28
                            its feasible...ish. i hope.

                            i'm going to try and pull it off, i'll be able to do a full write up on it once i'm done.
                            Escort GTR -- 11.87 @ 117.6 mph -- 320 HP / 325 Ft. Lbs. @ 23 PSI
                            ... The first FWD BG with a Toyota E153 transmission conversion in the USA!
                            Looking for BP x Toyota E153 adapter plates? PM me or contact me on Facebook: Riel Performance Parts

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by therieldeal View Post
                              you can use another stock ring gear but you'll need the ARP quaife bolts to bolt it to the LSD. i would reccomend using the secondary shaft and ring gear from the same tranny if possible. probe trannies (v6 and 4) use the wider ring gear and 4.10 if you dont want to buy a kia trans.

                              if you want some info on the toyota thing let me know. get in touch with me on AIM or something and i can explain what i know so far.
                              Yeah I was looking up on www.mazform.com and saw you talking to the guy about doing a FWD tranny instead of the AWD one. I saw that guy had a conversion plate made, and a short write up with pictures on how to. I'll will contact you after I've tried to inform myself a little more, so I am not asking too many stupid questions.

                              Things I know so far:
                              Seems like you have make your own engine mounts... nothing about cutting the frame rail, thank gawd... you have to cut the bellhousing to get the starter to fit... for the AWD tranny you have to modify the oil pan, unsure for the FWD... Either use a MR2 tranny or a Celica FWD tranny, not sure what model or make but some MR2's came with LSD... apparently you can use the Toyota axles but they're a tad bit too long but the same spine count as the hubs... it's all cable shift with two cables?...

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                              1996 Mazda MX-3 RS - Creek Blue Mica
                              1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE - Raspberry... RIP


                              Racing BP (Project "Blue" Marlin)... Twin Scroll GT3071R, breaking 30psi at the moment!

                              "Do it ONCE, do it RIGHT!"

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                                #30
                                whatever you guys find out about the mr2 trannys let me know as well. I want to do the swap to avoid having troubles to begin with.

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