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    #76
    You're a beast
    1993 Protege LX-Midnight's shadow SOLD
    1996 Honda CBR600-Wrecked. Damn Honda crippled me
    2002 mazda MPV-family truckster SOLD
    2010 VW routon

    Originally posted by jay
    .....they totally underestimated the number of gearheads such as myself that have families but refuse to grow the hell up and stop playing with cars, or that otherwise see the utility of having 4 doors. Obviously I ain't alone, as there are a helluva lotta sti and evo here. Bueler? Beuler? Mazda? Mazda?

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      #77
      Mazda_Powered so sexy!!! coming along great man! we'll be done around the same time i think haha.

      Hopefully it will be done for the summer.

      Turpro You're a beast
      I know LOL

      Had fun at the shop today. Read about a dude that used cloths line for templates for wiring and plumbing. Figured I would give it a try. I would do it again, it was really helpful. I used painters tape and cloths line to "plumb" the brakes. I labeled the lines and took them to the parts store. I laid all the cloths line on the floor and matched it up to real brake line. Three of the lines were metric on one side and standard on the other. The proportioning valve was standard and so was the brake line tee I bought. I bought all metric lines and cut and flared the standard fittings on one end of them. I made brackets for the adjustable proportioning valve and came up with a clever spot for it. It fit perfectly in one of the drain holes. (lucky)

















      Last edited by IMACHU2; 03-22-2010, 01:00 AM.
      Dominic Toretto rocks a MaZda and his cell phone number starts in "(323)"

      My Work Log:http://www.wihandyman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46003

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        #78
        Nice work jason. Only concern..kisking the proportioning valve with you foot.
        1993 Protege LX-Midnight's shadow SOLD
        1996 Honda CBR600-Wrecked. Damn Honda crippled me
        2002 mazda MPV-family truckster SOLD
        2010 VW routon

        Originally posted by jay
        .....they totally underestimated the number of gearheads such as myself that have families but refuse to grow the hell up and stop playing with cars, or that otherwise see the utility of having 4 doors. Obviously I ain't alone, as there are a helluva lotta sti and evo here. Bueler? Beuler? Mazda? Mazda?

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          #79
          great idea! is it going to get in the way of anything?
          -Jack

          ONTARIO MAZDA CLUB! Join! https://www.facebook.com/groups/500055016671733/

          91 626 LX - basically stock and pretty slow still
          http://www.clubprotege.com/forum/sho...my-GD-626-LX-)

          01 E53 3.0i - FOR SALE! pm if interested

          91 USDM Protege LX - SOLD! turbo/manifold up for sale!
          http://www.clubprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46606

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            #80
            I have short legs, so it will be pretty close to the front of the seat. It is located in the same place as in the Mustang. I "test drove" it in my daily driver 323 It appears to be out of harms way. (duct taped it in the hole in the floor and drove around the block) LOL. The only problem now is I had to look under my daily driver 323 a few time to understand and see where potential spacial conflicts would be. It is really, really scary under there
            (the carpet is a structural member).
            Last edited by IMACHU2; 03-22-2010, 09:33 AM.
            Dominic Toretto rocks a MaZda and his cell phone number starts in "(323)"

            My Work Log:http://www.wihandyman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46003

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              #81
              Looks good and great job on the brake line plumbing.
              SPI swapped

              http://www.cardomain.com/id/WhiteLightning96

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                #82
                I just read the entire work log, you're doing excellent job!

                Just giving you a tip. You know the brake lines has to be "equal lenght" (front to front and rear to rear) or the pressure in the break lines are going to be un-balanced. The car will turn right or left depending in wich line is the shorter when breaking very hard. But since you installed an adjustable proportionning valve I guest you knew that.

                Good luck!!
                -1993 Familia GT-R, 3" stainless exaust, 0.100" oversize Supertech pistons, ported and polished head, "hemi" style combustion chamber, Supertech 1mm oversize valves, megasquirt, 880cc low-z, MSD HVC, custom SS ramhorn turbo manifold, GT3076R ar.63, 25psi, 3" SS custom exhaust. Soon to be MS3X, COP and 28psi!
                -2008 Mitsubishi Evolution X MR, AEM turbo inlet system, 3" magnaflow exhaust.
                -2006 Pimped Grand Caravan 3.8L GT40...I'm kidding, it's stock

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by mazdasly75 View Post
                  I just read the entire work log, you're doing excellent job!
                  Thanks

                  Just giving you a tip. You know the brake lines has to be "equal lenght" (front to front and rear to rear) or the pressure in the break lines are going to be un-balanced. The car will turn right or left depending in wich line is the shorter when breaking very hard. But since you installed an adjustable proportionning valve I guest you knew that.

                  Good luck!!
                  While its true that flow would decrease pressure available at various distances from the source for things like water systems..the "flow" in a brake system is nil so the distances, number of elbows etc have no effect...pressure will equalize throughout the system. The only thing will be extra fluid in the system to take up extra length. Pressure in the closed hydraulic system will remain equal at all times. Your input/output force ratios will change when your input/output piston diameters change. The lines connecting to the pistons do not affect pressure.

                  Theory behind a proportioning valve:
                  At lower pressures, the prop valve effectively does nothing. At higher pressures, a piston separates the fluid at the inlet and outlet sides. No fluid flows through the valve. Therefore, the pressure locked into the system will remain constant at the preset (factory prop) or adjusted rate (as in an adjustable prop). Keep in mind the proportioning valve can be used to reduce brake line pressure, but will not increase it.
                  Last edited by IMACHU2; 03-22-2010, 10:33 PM.
                  Dominic Toretto rocks a MaZda and his cell phone number starts in "(323)"

                  My Work Log:http://www.wihandyman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46003

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                    #84
                    doesn't matter on length like said above, thats why you always bleed the longest/furthest line from the master cylinder first.
                    -Jack

                    ONTARIO MAZDA CLUB! Join! https://www.facebook.com/groups/500055016671733/

                    91 626 LX - basically stock and pretty slow still
                    http://www.clubprotege.com/forum/sho...my-GD-626-LX-)

                    01 E53 3.0i - FOR SALE! pm if interested

                    91 USDM Protege LX - SOLD! turbo/manifold up for sale!
                    http://www.clubprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46606

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                      #85
                      Well, the only thing I can tell you is to do a performance test. The calipers won't receive the same pressure at the end and it's cause of the different length of the brake line. I can't argue more as I'm out of words, I speak french so I'm missing words.

                      Anyway, it's a huge project that grown at an awesome speed. Keep the tempo dude!

                      Cheer
                      Last edited by mazdasly75; 03-23-2010, 10:31 AM.
                      -1993 Familia GT-R, 3" stainless exaust, 0.100" oversize Supertech pistons, ported and polished head, "hemi" style combustion chamber, Supertech 1mm oversize valves, megasquirt, 880cc low-z, MSD HVC, custom SS ramhorn turbo manifold, GT3076R ar.63, 25psi, 3" SS custom exhaust. Soon to be MS3X, COP and 28psi!
                      -2008 Mitsubishi Evolution X MR, AEM turbo inlet system, 3" magnaflow exhaust.
                      -2006 Pimped Grand Caravan 3.8L GT40...I'm kidding, it's stock

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                        #86
                        oups double post...
                        Last edited by Mazda_Powered; 03-23-2010, 10:09 AM. Reason: im dumb
                        -Jack

                        ONTARIO MAZDA CLUB! Join! https://www.facebook.com/groups/500055016671733/

                        91 626 LX - basically stock and pretty slow still
                        http://www.clubprotege.com/forum/sho...my-GD-626-LX-)

                        01 E53 3.0i - FOR SALE! pm if interested

                        91 USDM Protege LX - SOLD! turbo/manifold up for sale!
                        http://www.clubprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46606

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by mazdasly75 View Post
                          Well, the only thing I can tell you is to do a performance test. The calipers won't receive the same pressure at the end and it's cause of the different length of the brake line. I can't argue more as I'm out of work, I speak french so I'm missing words.

                          Anyway, it's a huge project that grown at an awesome speed. Keep the tempo dude!

                          Cheer
                          Argue with Pascal. LOL

                          Pascal's Law

                          Pascal's Law states that, because fluids are virtually non-compressible, any force applied to a closed hydraulic system will be felt equally and instantly throughout the entire system.
                          Dominic Toretto rocks a MaZda and his cell phone number starts in "(323)"

                          My Work Log:http://www.wihandyman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46003

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                            #88
                            Haha so true, french is completely different when trying to give an explanation. I'm average with my french skills, and I know literal translations don't mean crap, almost twice the syllables, and explaining the smallest thing usually twice as long haha.
                            -Jack

                            ONTARIO MAZDA CLUB! Join! https://www.facebook.com/groups/500055016671733/

                            91 626 LX - basically stock and pretty slow still
                            http://www.clubprotege.com/forum/sho...my-GD-626-LX-)

                            01 E53 3.0i - FOR SALE! pm if interested

                            91 USDM Protege LX - SOLD! turbo/manifold up for sale!
                            http://www.clubprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46606

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                              #89
                              this is coming along nicely. i hope to do something similar once im out of college and get another bg. I hope none of those rubber brake lines start to leak, you dont want all that nice paint work flaking off.
                              1994 Escort LX Wagon
                              2013 Hyundai Veloster Turbo
                              91 Infiniti M30 Convertible - Traded in for Veloster
                              91 EGT - Junked May 2012

                              "Going to church doesn't make you a Christian like standing in a garage doesn't make you a car."

                              "I usually downshift when I'm near a Prius so they can hear me hurting the environment"

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                                #90
                                Originally posted by MATT91GT View Post
                                this is coming along nicely. i hope to do something similar once im out of college and get another bg. I hope none of those rubber brake lines start to leak, you dont want all that nice paint work flaking off.
                                Thanks. They look like "rubber brake lines", but they were engineered to do what they are doing-carry brake fluid. (Wilwood remote brake reservoir hose). The fittings will hold up to 250 PSI and there is actually a slight vacuum on them, so the "nice paint work" will be very safe.
                                Dominic Toretto rocks a MaZda and his cell phone number starts in "(323)"

                                My Work Log:http://www.wihandyman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46003

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