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    #46
    Originally posted by therieldeal View Post
    it does require a certain amount of tools, skills, and resources to build engine mounts and things like that... so i can see why there arent dozens of people jumping on it, but i figured 10 would be no problem.
    I cant weld nor do I have to tools to attempt welding. However, I still see it being easily done with a little time and a borrowed welder. It don't have to be perfect but the more time I spend on it the better the results.
    I live my life a quarter pounder at a time. And for those 500 calories or more, I'm free. I need FRIES! Two of them. The big ones. Oh, and I need them tonight. You're lucky the double shot of BBQ sauce didn't blow the seam on your nugget box. There she is, 2 pounds of pure beef. My dad ate it in 9.0 seconds flat. Check it out, it's like this. If I lose, winner takes my happy meal. But if I win, I take the burger and the toy. To some people, that's more important.

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    Oh and by the way that shot in your banner with Vin Diesel's car getting shot, thats a civic not an altezza.

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      #47
      i want to but its such bad timing right now between buying ms, and a winter car, and a built motor....lol.... im still goin to try and scrap up some money for this... i was almost figuring it was goin to be the last thing i buy after i get all the damn parts for the swap...lol....
      92 protege lx-

      94 protege lx-

      95 escort gt-ms2e/ms2extra pre3.3alpha5 gslender v2.8-e85-vj23@12lbs----dead--

      are you a thinker, or a believer?

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        #48
        I'd be in, maybe even for 2 (one fwd, one 4wd), but right now those projects are on the back burner while I stop spending and save so I can get a house. and a tire changer.

        --sarge

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          #49
          well if we don't get more people interested it wont be happening at all soooo... lol
          Escort GTR -- 11.87 @ 117.6 mph -- 320 HP / 325 Ft. Lbs. @ 23 PSI
          ... The first FWD BG with a Toyota E153 transmission conversion in the USA!
          Looking for BP x Toyota E153 adapter plates? PM me or contact me on Facebook: Riel Performance Parts

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            #50
            Its not like you guys have to drop all of the money up front. **** i'll pay for mine in full if that will help.
            I live my life a quarter pounder at a time. And for those 500 calories or more, I'm free. I need FRIES! Two of them. The big ones. Oh, and I need them tonight. You're lucky the double shot of BBQ sauce didn't blow the seam on your nugget box. There she is, 2 pounds of pure beef. My dad ate it in 9.0 seconds flat. Check it out, it's like this. If I lose, winner takes my happy meal. But if I win, I take the burger and the toy. To some people, that's more important.

            ._________________________
            |.....Overnight....................| ||
            |.....Japan Parts.................| |'|";,___.
            |_..._...____________======||_|_|...,]
            "(@)'(@)""'''''''''''''"'''"**|(@)(@)*****"(@)
            Oh and by the way that shot in your banner with Vin Diesel's car getting shot, thats a civic not an altezza.

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              #51
              does the fwd and awd yotas share the same front axles?
              also are the tranz mounts the same between the fwd and awd yota boxes?

              i have not really searched much about the fwd or awd toyota tranz stuff, but i might be soon.

              do you have any pics of the plate , or of your swap all mounted up in your car?
              5 boosted bp cars,why...

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                #52
                The front axles that are used are from a celica alltrac, regardless of whether your BG is awd or fwd.

                The mounts you need to build will be different between FWD and AWD because the body of the car is different (as you know). The two side mounts may entirely or partially interchange, but I'm not sure. The brackets that actually bolt to the trans will all be the same, as the trans case is the same. Actually the E153 can be converted from FWD to AWD by swapping differentials and installing a rear transfer in place of the block off plate. (its not quite THAT easy, but close).

                I'll try to get some better pictures, but I don’t really know anyone local with a lift sooo its kinda difficult. Awd is obviously harder to do, theres a lot of additional components to build mounts for...
                Escort GTR -- 11.87 @ 117.6 mph -- 320 HP / 325 Ft. Lbs. @ 23 PSI
                ... The first FWD BG with a Toyota E153 transmission conversion in the USA!
                Looking for BP x Toyota E153 adapter plates? PM me or contact me on Facebook: Riel Performance Parts

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by therieldeal View Post
                  The front axles that are used are from a celica alltrac, regardless of whether your BG is awd or fwd.

                  The mounts you need to build will be different between FWD and AWD because the body of the car is different (as you know). The two side mounts may entirely or partially interchange, but I'm not sure. The brackets that actually bolt to the trans will all be the same, as the trans case is the same. Actually the E153 can be converted from FWD to AWD by swapping differentials and installing a rear transfer in place of the block off plate. (its not quite THAT easy, but close).

                  I'll try to get some better pictures, but I don’t really know anyone local with a lift sooo its kinda difficult. Awd is obviously harder to do, theres a lot of additional components to build mounts for...
                  o.k., just to be sure,,
                  both the fwd and awd yota tranz cases are the same?
                  and both the yota awd and fwd front axles are the same?
                  also the spline count and size on the outer axles are 100% same as the bgs, ie it will fit through the stock spindle, but i will have to get rx7 ball joints and run 93-up bg spindles to fit the ball joint.
                  Last edited by ryan1; 11-23-2009, 01:46 PM.
                  5 boosted bp cars,why...

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                    #54
                    yep the splines fit the stock hub 100%

                    for awd you need the alltrac inner axle stubs. for fwd you need mr2 turbo ones.

                    for fwd you can either run the rx7 balljoints or mx3 LCA's.

                    for awd if you need the width you can run fwd lca's, since there is no such things a 93+ awd spindle. you may not even need any extra width in the AWD, i have no idea.
                    Escort GTR -- 11.87 @ 117.6 mph -- 320 HP / 325 Ft. Lbs. @ 23 PSI
                    ... The first FWD BG with a Toyota E153 transmission conversion in the USA!
                    Looking for BP x Toyota E153 adapter plates? PM me or contact me on Facebook: Riel Performance Parts

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                      #55
                      !@#$%^&*!!!! I wish I could do the swap, but after reading the write up, I don't think I know enough, nor have the fabricating skill to tackle this. And I don't have the money to pay someone else to do it either, lol.
                      Before you criticize someone, first try walking a mile in their shoes. Because then you'll be a mile away, and you'll have their shoes...

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                        #56
                        So you're saying that the gearing will give it more acceleration?
                        My family has lots of bg's!
                        2003 Ford Escort ZX2: Project car/future daily driver. Built Ford Tough (With Mazda Stuff)
                        1999 Escort ZX2: Daily driver/beater. Going to be replaced by the '03 next summer.
                        2000 Escort ZX2 S/R: bought wrecked, going to use as parts car
                        1992 Protege LX: My old race car. Just a wrecked shell right now. Waiting for scrap to go up so that I can get rid of it.
                        1992 Mazda 323: Race car
                        1992 Escort Gt: My grandpa's old race car
                        1994 Escort GT: My grandpa's new race car.
                        Parts cars; 1993 Escort Gt, 1995 Escort lx

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                          #57
                          i'm suprised jho doesn't want in on this, doesn't have a gtr motor too?
                          -Jack

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                          91 626 LX - basically stock and pretty slow still
                          http://www.clubprotege.com/forum/sho...my-GD-626-LX-)

                          01 E53 3.0i - FOR SALE! pm if interested

                          91 USDM Protege LX - SOLD! turbo/manifold up for sale!
                          http://www.clubprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46606

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                            #58
                            bump

                            i now have 4 people ready to throw down deposits, this isnt enough

                            if i cant find 10 people by the end of the year i may give up on this :/

                            the gearing advantage depends what gearset you go with. the MR2 gearset may make the car quicker, i think its a 4.3something final drive. the camry gearset is taller than the stock BP trans, i'm trapping 117 at only 6k rpm... technically makes the car slower, but running out of gear will make you slower than a taller gearset!


                            PS: i talked to Jho for the first time in a long time the other day. he bought a house, doesnt spend much on cars anymore (lots of work to do on the house). its down the end of a dirt road that the maroon car can barely make it down, hes look into buying a truck lol. he still has the GTR motor though... someday
                            Last edited by therieldeal; 12-02-2009, 07:05 AM.
                            Escort GTR -- 11.87 @ 117.6 mph -- 320 HP / 325 Ft. Lbs. @ 23 PSI
                            ... The first FWD BG with a Toyota E153 transmission conversion in the USA!
                            Looking for BP x Toyota E153 adapter plates? PM me or contact me on Facebook: Riel Performance Parts

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                              #59
                              Wait until xmas passes, everybody is tight on money

                              1993 Mazda Familia GTR - work log

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                                #60
                                Tell Jho to start posting more, that guy hasn't been around in ages

                                but ya, i'd wait til after x-mas, horrible time of the year right now lol
                                -Jack

                                ONTARIO MAZDA CLUB! Join! https://www.facebook.com/groups/500055016671733/

                                91 626 LX - basically stock and pretty slow still
                                http://www.clubprotege.com/forum/sho...my-GD-626-LX-)

                                01 E53 3.0i - FOR SALE! pm if interested

                                91 USDM Protege LX - SOLD! turbo/manifold up for sale!
                                http://www.clubprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46606

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