I dunno, why even bother on a street car, 125hp is plenty enough
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Where do you live? Go to a track event instead. Don't waste your money. If you want to go "cheap," you'll just have a car that handles like ass, stops poorly, which is not suitable at all for a high-powered car. WHY?!?! Just learn how to drive your car like it is, then you'll see if you really need the power. Until then... I think it's a waste of money.2006 Mazda 3 hatchback manual
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So you think it's pointless to swap a motor if you're not on the track? lol.. dude what about on a warm summer day on a nice empty highway, givving the car a little gas and it ACTUALLY responding. I plan to upgrade my brakes, and my suspension, I actually plan to make my own bars.. but I wanna bang out the motor first, I need a reason to upgrade my brakes/suspension. I really wanna do drag, but cones seem nice, I wouldn't mind improving my driver skill. I just don't think it's pointless to drop a BPT in a street car lol.00 dakota 4x4
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Originally posted by charlesWhere do you live? Go to a track event instead. Don't waste your money. If you want to go "cheap," you'll just have a car that handles like ass, stops poorly, which is not suitable at all for a high-powered car. WHY?!?! Just learn how to drive your car like it is, then you'll see if you really need the power. Until then... I think it's a waste of money.
if you're happy with your NA protege then good for you. but i suggest not attempting to drive any cars that actually have torque though, because it might scare you. dont tell me how to modify my car
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You are asking people about their opinion and then you state that they shouldn't tell you how to modify your car. WTF? You need to have an idea of what your goal is with the car. If you are on a tight budget, a reliable turbo setup will be a big challenge.-------------------------
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Originally posted by pigeonwell if you're a fan of inaccuracy and uncertainty.... then by all means, go set your timing by feel and sound
while you're out there, you might as well adjust your air/fuel ratio by smell... and your tire pressure by ride height
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Originally posted by Identity_XYou are asking people about their opinion and then you state that they shouldn't tell you how to modify your car. WTF? You need to have an idea of what your goal is with the car. If you are on a tight budget, a reliable turbo setup will be a big challenge.
as far as the "road racing" you are talking about...im gonna hold my tongue this time. all im gonna say is to cut out the us vs. them thing because it makes you appear very ignorant.
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Originally posted by 1990DXOK! 180hp even a car that small is not "high powered". even with a BP it will run high 15's and thats ****ing slow, seriously. stock proteges handle nowhere near like ass, and they stop good enough with the lx brakes. plus i asked HOW TO TURBO IT CHEAPEST, not how to modify the suspension or brakes...CAN YOU READ?!?!? i can already drive the car like it is, so dont tell me i dont need more power because you dont know what the hell you are talking about. taking my protege to solo would be pointless because even though i am a good driver, i would get my ass kicked because all of the cars there are faster than high 17's and no matter what i do i cant keep up. let alone open road course. that would be a total waste of time... stock 1990SE vs, ac cobra kit cars and nsx's...yeah fun isnt it? and as far as drag racing i have raced at least 20-30 cars and have beat maybe 4. if you think a protege with 125hp is fast you should ride in my other car...guaruntee you would **** your pants then.
if you're happy with your NA protege then good for you. but i suggest not attempting to drive any cars that actually have torque though, because it might scare you. dont tell me how to modify my car
If you go to a Solo II event or a driver's event at the track, you will have a much better goal for what you want your car to be.2006 Mazda 3 hatchback manual
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i know i can beat the people that cant drive, but if someone in a viper knew what they were doing, they would rape my car at soloII. and im never going to do soloI again...ugh... but anyway, this is not my race car. its my driver, therefore i street race it sometimes. it just so happens that it is not quick enough i dont particularly care what the car does in solo though, because i have taken it to its limits many times already and i wont road race it. ALSO, every friday at the local drag strip, hundreds of people go and hang out/race from around 9-2. its only a few bucks to do so its a fun place to go when theres nothing to do.
the car does not accelerate fast enough for my taste, so basically, i need the car to go faster in a straight line and thats it. i will worry about other stuff later if the car has trouble keeping down the extra power.
oh and ne3k, i totally agree, without more power its pointless upgrading the rest
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if you want to take a factory N/A car and turbo it, the fact is, is that it wont be cheap at all. there's no way for a cheap turbo system unless you can; weld yourself, have access to junkyard turbos for free, a standalone or piggyback, fuel enhancement items on hand (adj fpr, injectors, ect.) and if your internals can handle it. do the research about your engine (internals, weak points, ect). the guys are right on this post about turbo-ing your car. either get a bp and start from the ground up, or by the GTX engine. my friend did a junkyard turbo project for his z24 for about a 1200+. that was making his owne manifold, resourcing z28 injectors, fuel pump, adjustable FPR, lines, piping, 1st gen eclipse ic, and s-afc. his turbo was a 1st gen dsm 14g, and he boosted 8lbs. listen, if you want to turbo your car, your totally changing the way you car lives, being engine, braking, cooling, ect. don't diss the others for putting their ideas in, because a post like "whats the cheapest way to turbo your car" is kinda asking an ignorant, misguided question. start saving.i hate being broke!
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Originally posted by darkangelif you want to take a factory N/A car and turbo it, the fact is, is that it wont be cheap at all. there's no way for a cheap turbo system unless you can; weld yourself, have access to junkyard turbos for free, a standalone or piggyback, fuel enhancement items on hand (adj fpr, injectors, ect.) and if your internals can handle it. do the research about your engine (internals, weak points, ect). the guys are right on this post about turbo-ing your car. either get a bp and start from the ground up, or by the GTX engine. my friend did a junkyard turbo project for his z24 for about a 1200+. that was making his owne manifold, resourcing z28 injectors, fuel pump, adjustable FPR, lines, piping, 1st gen eclipse ic, and s-afc. his turbo was a 1st gen dsm 14g, and he boosted 8lbs. listen, if you want to turbo your car, your totally changing the way you car lives, being engine, braking, cooling, ect. don't diss the others for putting their ideas in, because a post like "whats the cheapest way to turbo your car" is kinda asking an ignorant, misguided question. start saving.
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well, wanting to turbo your car for under a grand is misguided, and considering all the possibilities being the gtx engine or a custom buildup, your still gonna pay over a grand after the install. im not trying to diss you at all, but don't jump on others for their opinion. you left it kinda open for interpratation.i hate being broke!
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wow, i just read this thread and it seems to me that 1990dx was jumping on others for good reasons: hes asking about how to turbo for the lowest price, and others start posting about "learn to drive" and stuff. some people like nascar some like rally, F1, dragracing, offroading ect. and i think it is stupid to try to disuade a dragger from going for hp, the same as it would be stupid to tell an offroader to run their auto with slicks.
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