Ive Done It!!!!!!!!!!!

[FE3-323]

i kno mazda and hondas are totally different but if a honday can make almost 300 n/a then i think mazda can make over 200 n/a

Honda's are totally different by design... the ports are too big (they make HP but no TQ) & their cams next to ours look like race spec's. No other way to make the power plainly.

OYE!!! thank you esmacmil, glad you see what im talking about

[OUfb2005]

i kno hondas are different but like i said if they can make over 300n/a then im sure a mazda should be able to make over 200n/a

and besides if hondas were so ****ty then why is it that there everywhere running high hp numbers and laying down some FAST times?

im just saying that its possible to make over 200 n/a on a BP

[FE3-323]

hondas are light, & have areodynamic flow reducing drag. put any motorthat makes any power & it'll move around.

without an extensive investment its just not feasible.

[D323]

i kno hondas are different but like i said if they can make over 300n/a then im sure a mazda should be able to make over 200n/a

and besides if hondas were so ****ty then why is it that there everywhere running high hp numbers and laying down some FAST times?

im just saying that its possible to make over 200 n/a on a BP

gearing also plays a major role in this... the highest gearing ratio AFAIK that you can swap into a mazda is 4.3 from MX-3 v6's.

Stock EP's (2002 si) come with 4.7. That and short ass close ratio gears help tremendously.

If I was going to build a NA FWD vehicle it would in all probablility be a honda since there is so much more aftermarket and support.

However, boosted FWD, I wouldn't touch a honda. The stock CR are too high to boost safely (for the amount of psi I want to push) without alot of bottom end/internal work.

Show me a stock block/head Honda putting down 400whp on STOCK internals (no N2O either). You cant. Mazdas can, and have

[Jho]

Cast blocks > aluminum blocks.

B00sted Mazda > N/A or FI Honda

[Limegreen MX-3]

gearing also plays a major role in this... the highest gearing ratio AFAIK that you can swap into a mazda is 4.3 from MX-3 v6's.

Stock EP's (2002 si) come with 4.7. That and short ass close ratio gears help tremendously.

If I was going to build a NA FWD vehicle it would in all probablility be a honda since there is so much more aftermarket and support.

However, boosted FWD, I wouldn't touch a honda. The stock CR are too high to boost safely (for the amount of psi I want to push) without alot of bottom end/internal work.

Show me a stock block/head Honda putting down 400whp on STOCK internals (no N2O either). You cant. Mazdas can, and have

hate to bust ur bobble but ric @RM has boosted a 2000si with a stock internal H22 street tune running a 11.4@132 @23psi 2800lbs turbo size a SC67-69

[FazdaBoy4ever]

With Drag radials your 60 footer still blows dude..I cut a 2.19 60 footer with regular es100's....If you can get a better 60 you will be deep in the 14's.Still good job though.

i wouldnt be so rude as to say they blow but considering i was pulling the same 60' times with crappy crappy crappy 2 yr old all seasons... maybe try launching at a lower rpm i have no experience with drag radials but i would imagin they should hook up better than my tires did

i havent read beyond the first page so i apologise if i am beating a dead horse.

edit:dang this is an old thread... sorry

[D323]

hate to bust ur bobble but ric @RM has boosted a 2000si with a stock internal H22 street tune running a 11.4@132 @23psi 2800lbs turbo size a SC67-69

what were his whp numbers?