Protege's on Drag Track (1/4 Mile Time)

[zorlac7]

whats the fastest a STOCK lx has run?

here we have several running @ drag way. they are all in the 16 sec range. Without major engine mods (only better intake and exhaust).

I think a modified (lightweighted and engine mods) can be around 14 sec.

[1ofdfew323]

I seen and have the video on me. A stock 1st gen LX running 16.0 with no mods no aftermarket intake or exhaust etc... @ 30' sea level and about 78 degree F. Btw this LX has full interior.

[zorlac7]

the ones i say are: the first 16.3-16.5 and the second 16.0-16.4 (times from the last drag race 2 weeks ago) the first is 1990 protege and the second one 1994 protege.

both only with a noisy muffler.

[lscrx]

Protege... dunno, probably slow.
CRX... 15.3 @ 89mph with the stock 1.6 SOHC

i'm guessing the CRX is in the mid 14's with the 1.8 DOHC but it hasn't been to the track since the swap so who knows?

[Gen1GT]

Protege... dunno, probably slow.
CRX... 15.3 @ 89mph with the stock 1.6 SOHC

i'm guessing the CRX is in the mid 14's with the 1.8 DOHC but it hasn't been to the track since the swap so who knows?

Stock SOHC? VTEC? What tires? And what do you consider stock?

You see, the Honda comparisons are flawed. They have overengineered engines from the factory. I'd like to see you take a 4-door Integra with just a plain old B18A and see how much power you can make without resorting to VTEC. To drop an already powerful engine into a 1700lb car is nothing genius. Make 50% more power in an engine that wasn't designed for it, now that's impressive.

[.Zero]

1999 DX

MagnaFlow Canister but thats it...
Injen Cold Air
NGK Plugs
NGK PLug Wires
14' Discount Chrome Wheels with 60 series toyo specturm tires. awesome!

1/4 - 17.312
MPH - 79.69
60' - 2.583
Reaction - 0.009 (proud of that one haha)

[1ofdfew323]

15.3 on that crix....Im definitely sure its an SI. My friend ran 15.4 w/ intake but the ****ed up thing was after nstalling sohc vtec head on a si block (mini-me) i/h/ex, big phat FLUIDINE radiator, MSD, straight pipe, etc... he ran 15.3? I 'm guessing the car wasn't properly tuned.

I had a 92 CX that weighed 2,015 lbs w/ a sohc vtec swap from a del sol w/ h/i stock muffler w/o cat and resonator DINAN ecu no redline cutoff, DX tranny ACT stage1 clutch,
stripped interior. I hit 14.8-15.01 but the car rides like **** tho without the sound deadening. That is y i sold it. hehe..

[sohc 1.8t]

14.9 @92 mph sohc turbo automatic

[KiddX]

14.9 @92 mph sohc turbo automatic

got it tuned did ya?

[itzkcatz]

14.9 @92 mph sohc turbo automatic

Not bad at all man

[lscrx]

Stock SOHC? VTEC? What tires? And what do you consider stock?

D16A6... 1.6 SOHC non-VTEC, 108hp from the factory (crank)
At the time my mods were...
*short-ram intake w/ghetto filter
*stock exhaust
*Tokico Illumina shocks
*ST springs (2" lower)
*ST 22mm rear sway bar
*15" Integra GSR wheels
*195/50/R15 Bridgestone Potenza SO3 Pole Positions

You see, the Honda comparisons are flawed. They have overengineered engines from the factory. I'd like to see you take a 4-door Integra with just a plain old B18A and see how much power you can make without resorting to VTEC. To drop an already powerful engine into a 1700lb car is nothing genius. Make 50% more power in an engine that wasn't designed for it, now that's impressive.

I'm not sure what you're point is, dropping the LS motor gave me a more usable powerband, and a stronger motor overall. VTEC isn't really a factor for drag racing where you stay above the VTEC engagement point the whole race. All the top import drag racers use VTEC killer cams, removing the extra lobes so that they are left with only an agressive cam profile. So, a D16A6 with a hot cam will probably be faster than a D16Z6 (SOHC VTEC)... but they wouldn't be as easy to drive on a daily basis.

[Gen1GT]

My point is that there's no ingenuity in doing an engine swap. I could have slapped a KL-ZE in my car for the price I've spent on everything else so far. But my point is, make 150whp out of that D16, and I'd be impressed. Make 190whp out of a B18A, and I'll be impressed. Do an H22 swap and run 12s. Not impressed.

[KiddX]

My point is that there's no ingenuity in doing an engine swap. I could have slapped a KL-ZE in my car for the price I've spent on everything else so far. But my point is, make 150whp out of that D16, and I'd be impressed. Make 190whp out of a B18A, and I'll be impressed. Do an H22 swap and run 12s. Not impressed.

this is why you favor getting n/a power from the bp rather than the swap. undertsandable. what about my aspiratons or breaking 11's with my gtx? would that tickle you fancy?

[1ofdfew323]

My point is that there's no ingenuity in doing an engine swap. I could have slapped a KL-ZE in my car for the price I've spent on everything else so far. But my point is, make 150whp out of that D16, and I'd be impressed. Make 190whp out of a B18A, and I'll be impressed. Do an H22 swap and run 12s. Not impressed.

hmm... If I have the money I would do the h22 swap just cause my car wont run like **** on the road w/ a fully built sohc vtec. Now thats, impressive. You running 13's w/ just bolt ons is impressive. Having a sohc vtec fully built most likely spend double the price of the h22 swap is not that impressive. Remember this cars are use for daily drive you have to consider and wear and tear on this engine. The gas mileage, idles like ****, loud as hell, etc.... you get the point. The only reason why your not doing the swap is because of the couple of reasons. No cash in hand to spend a large amount of money in one time, your engine has low miles and you know it runs good and its potential for more power, dont want to deal with the swap. ( too much hassle).

I have a 323 w/ a BP swap alot of people including you think that a 323 w/ bp is as fast a protege LX or GT but to tell you the truth its not. I could or 323 w/ bp can beat a pro LX/GT about 2 cars away I know I have raced 2 protege and an escort w/ mazda motor. The bp is good and very strong motor but weight is the enemy. Removing 70 lbs off my 323 give alot of difference on the race. Imagine my car weighing 2,150 or 2,300 compare to 2,400 or 2,600 lbs protege. Big difference.

[bruce95fmla]

My point is that there's no ingenuity in doing an engine swap. I could have slapped a KL-ZE in my car for the price I've spent on everything else so far. But my point is, make 150whp out of that D16, and I'd be impressed. Make 190whp out of a B18A, and I'll be impressed. Do an H22 swap and run 12s. Not impressed.

The fact that the H22 will enable a vehicle to run 12's is impressive. Remember winning is the goal. Whatever gets you to that goal is what counts and is what is impressive. So if a H22 in my 323/civic hatch/civic coupe/ mini cooper beats your Bp with all that work all day long, then guess what ...

that's impressive.

You have to do what you have to do to ensure the win..