That looks like a freaking blast!
I should get a beater for that.
I should get a beater for that.
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1994 Mazda Protege DX (261Kmiles): Eibach springs, Tokico struts, Addco sway bars, massively ghetto-fabulous OBX camber bolts set to max. -ve, Energy Suspension LCA bushings, disc brake conversion, Carbotech XP8 (front) and AX6 (rear) pads, ATE Superblue, 15x7 Kazera KZ-M w/ 205/50/15 Avon Tech Ra (track), 15x6 Miata wheels w/ 195/50/15 Hankook Ventus R-S2 (street) and 14" stock wheels w/ Blizzak WS-60 (ice racing), A/C delete, BP swap, POS Pacesetter (w/ leak), 2.25" custom exhaust, cage and full SCCA ITA prep possibly in the works...
1995 3000GT VR-4:Tein Flex, 332mm Stoptechs, manual steering conversion, custom brake lines with cockpit-mounted prop. valve, AWS delete, DSM sidemounts, full ATR single-exit, 13g/9b mismatch w/9psi WG springs, DN o2 housings, SAFC, AEM wideband, much more, etc.
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I'd be nervous about wrecking it.Originally posted by Struggly View Post
It's my one and only. I'm not going to go out racing in it.Comment
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^^^
Here's to Jho's ten-thousandth post!
Impressive!
Someday he'll think back and say to himself: "If I had a nickel for every post . . ."Comment
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Fair enough, although I can almost guarantee you won't crash. If it's your first track day you'll going pretty slowly to learn the line, and everyone else will be too. There's no passing in corners, no wheel to wheel racing, and (of course) no bumping.Originally posted by Jho View Post
People bring some expensive-ass cars there, so everyone's very serious about keeping the event safe and crash-free.
The only way you'd have an accident is if you made a huge driving mistake and crashed into the wall. Drive within your abilities and that won't happen.
By the way, that's a lot of posts.
Clint1994 Mazda Protege DX (261Kmiles): Eibach springs, Tokico struts, Addco sway bars, massively ghetto-fabulous OBX camber bolts set to max. -ve, Energy Suspension LCA bushings, disc brake conversion, Carbotech XP8 (front) and AX6 (rear) pads, ATE Superblue, 15x7 Kazera KZ-M w/ 205/50/15 Avon Tech Ra (track), 15x6 Miata wheels w/ 195/50/15 Hankook Ventus R-S2 (street) and 14" stock wheels w/ Blizzak WS-60 (ice racing), A/C delete, BP swap, POS Pacesetter (w/ leak), 2.25" custom exhaust, cage and full SCCA ITA prep possibly in the works...
1995 3000GT VR-4:Tein Flex, 332mm Stoptechs, manual steering conversion, custom brake lines with cockpit-mounted prop. valve, AWS delete, DSM sidemounts, full ATR single-exit, 13g/9b mismatch w/9psi WG springs, DN o2 housings, SAFC, AEM wideband, much more, etc.
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Thanks.
You've never seen me drive, I'm aggressive as hell.
I definitely wouldn't want to race my current car.Comment
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i have a feeling you'd probably be safer on the track jo... no stone walls to jump out in front of you...
Escort GTR -- 11.87 @ 117.6 mph -- 320 HP / 325 Ft. Lbs. @ 23 PSI
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Jho, you should totally get out on track. What's the point of having a nicely modified car, if you can't actually use it?
No cops to give you tickets, and the ability to push the car to your limits...
that track looks really fun, btw.
--sarge
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You guys are right.
Plus, who knows, maybe if I got it all out on the track, I'd drive a little more conservatively on the road.
..........Nahhhh.
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you are a bit more careless then i was @ devils lake id say
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1992- project FE3..... 313 WHP @ 9.3psi
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just seems like it would have to cost a god aweful lot to keep your car up enough to compete in things like this let alone the entrance fee in---Has ClubProtege helped you in someway? show your support by Contributing--- Click Here---
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Heh, aggressiveness doesn't get you much of anywhere, especially if you don't have any roadcourse experience.Originally posted by Jho View Post
I see the aggressive guys all the time in the lower run groups. They are very slow. At NHIS in particular, being fast is a matter of choosing the best line and knowing when to sacrifice speed for smoothness. If you're at Watkins Glen you can get a little further just by being a nut because the corners aren't connected. Fastest I see at NHIS is about 88.
There's one place where I like to have a little fun and pick up a wheel or two. Otherwise, I'm smooth and controlled.
And finally, like someone else said, if you really plan on being aggressive you're much safer doing it on a track. I've been to NHIS 10 times and I've only seen 2 cars hit the wall. One was a 911 who lost it coming onto the NASCAR oval in the rain, and one was an airhead who lost control coming down the hill in corner 10. Both were fairly minor accidents. And, what's more important, no one else hit him because everyone is very focused on what they're doing. That's not the case on the street, where you have aloof drivers, pedestrians, old ladies that can't see very well, etc.
Yep, costs are high: tires, ball joints, wheel bearings, suspension components--all of these can wear very quickly. Over the next few months I'm going to start getting my protege ready for IT racing (providing the chief scrutineer will OK a DX converted to LX trim). That'll be a few more thousand right away for cage, seat/harness, real suspension, licensing, etc.Originally posted by bpt323
ClintLast edited by Struggly; 09-05-2007, 12:23 PM.1994 Mazda Protege DX (261Kmiles): Eibach springs, Tokico struts, Addco sway bars, massively ghetto-fabulous OBX camber bolts set to max. -ve, Energy Suspension LCA bushings, disc brake conversion, Carbotech XP8 (front) and AX6 (rear) pads, ATE Superblue, 15x7 Kazera KZ-M w/ 205/50/15 Avon Tech Ra (track), 15x6 Miata wheels w/ 195/50/15 Hankook Ventus R-S2 (street) and 14" stock wheels w/ Blizzak WS-60 (ice racing), A/C delete, BP swap, POS Pacesetter (w/ leak), 2.25" custom exhaust, cage and full SCCA ITA prep possibly in the works...
1995 3000GT VR-4:Tein Flex, 332mm Stoptechs, manual steering conversion, custom brake lines with cockpit-mounted prop. valve, AWS delete, DSM sidemounts, full ATR single-exit, 13g/9b mismatch w/9psi WG springs, DN o2 housings, SAFC, AEM wideband, much more, etc.
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so if you can get up to 88mph in a DX... i wonder what kind of tops speeds i'd see with a stiffer suspension and 3x the horsepower... =oEscort GTR -- 11.87 @ 117.6 mph -- 320 HP / 325 Ft. Lbs. @ 23 PSI
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The main straight is so short that it probably wouldn't as huge of a difference as you might think. In my VR-4, which is as fast in a straight line as the previous generation Porsche GT3, I would see just over 100, if I remember right.Originally posted by therieldeal View Post
The straights are just so damn short that lots of power isn't worth that much. That's why I can stay with much "faster" cars in my DX.
Clint1994 Mazda Protege DX (261Kmiles): Eibach springs, Tokico struts, Addco sway bars, massively ghetto-fabulous OBX camber bolts set to max. -ve, Energy Suspension LCA bushings, disc brake conversion, Carbotech XP8 (front) and AX6 (rear) pads, ATE Superblue, 15x7 Kazera KZ-M w/ 205/50/15 Avon Tech Ra (track), 15x6 Miata wheels w/ 195/50/15 Hankook Ventus R-S2 (street) and 14" stock wheels w/ Blizzak WS-60 (ice racing), A/C delete, BP swap, POS Pacesetter (w/ leak), 2.25" custom exhaust, cage and full SCCA ITA prep possibly in the works...
1995 3000GT VR-4:Tein Flex, 332mm Stoptechs, manual steering conversion, custom brake lines with cockpit-mounted prop. valve, AWS delete, DSM sidemounts, full ATR single-exit, 13g/9b mismatch w/9psi WG springs, DN o2 housings, SAFC, AEM wideband, much more, etc.
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Watkins Glen it is!Originally posted by Struggly View PostHeh, aggressiveness doesn't get you much of anywhere, especially if you don't have any roadcourse experience.
I see the aggressive guys all the time in the lower run groups. They are very slow. At NHIS in particular, being fast is a matter of choosing the best line and knowing when to sacrifice speed for smoothness. If you're at Watkins Glen you can get a little further just by being a nut because the corners aren't connected. Fastest I see at NHIS is about 88.
Yep, costs are high.......
Clint
What is the entry fee for these kind of races?Comment
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